Wes 08' and Campaign $$
Submitted by Cate on January 17, 2007 - 3:45pm.
Democratic politics
NPR Morning Edition, some political science guy was talking about the dollars needed to run a presidential campaign. They said Kerry spent 251 million and that a candidate needs at least 50 million going into the primaries. Right now there are six Democratic candidates, all seeking funds. Hillary has got 14 million in the bank left over from her senate race. Obama is starting his fundraising right now.
As much as I'd like to see Wes Clark be the next leader of this country, I am not certain he is in a financial position to run and will get the much needed $$ to sustain a campaign for the next two years. As the Democratic presidential candidate field grows in size, the fund raising $$ become more scarce. Sadly, I think these facts are going to play a big part in Wes's decision.
and that he will have the financial support he will need to do so. NPR certainly would not want to see a Clark candidacy because they, like the rest of the right, know that General Clark could beat any candidate the Republicans nominate.
Proud to be an American.
Consultants can sometimes suck the life out of a campaign. Those working for HC aren't getting chickenfeed. In addition to salaries, 'bigname' (read: "Big money") consultants don't stay at the local Holiday Inn Express. Excessive campaign 'expenses' can double or triple the burden on the budget.
On the panel with Jessica Vandenberg, I think it was Jim Jordan who said "$60 milion dollars isn't twice as good as $30 million dollars. Its all in how you spend it".
burned through money. It wasn't always going to pay the foot soldiers or give them what they needed either. When I worked the 2 days at the hotel when the train came through KC, his staffers didn't even have buttons. We were giving them ours. Plenty of money was spent to entertain The Kerrys and Edwards while they were here, including the outings for their kids. Kerry gave out lots of expensive tchotckes for the crowds to use just before the TV cameras would be turned on them.
Hillary spends tons of money on caterers and flowers for the big money donors all around the country. She burned through tens of millions during here almost unchallenged race for senate. Rudy is looking more and more like the Republican favorite, so Hillary is going to be trying to get money from many of the same people as Hillary.
If 1 million people give Wes $100 or a combination thereof, we are fine in the primary and going into the GE. Kerry raised most of his money when he became the AAB GE candidate and he raised it on the internet in smaller amounts, because people like Wes and Howard Dean told their people to support him. It will be the same for the GE candidate in 2008.
Hillary is all about DC consultants and as you stated they don't come cheap. There are lots of people from outside the beltway who will charge less................plus Wes has us!
Blue sky? Steve Jarding!
:)
Run Wes Run!
feeding of DC consultants HRC... 30 million dollars..... she is the people's Senator
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
I saw an interview with Dabid Eichenbaum, who ran Tim Kaine's gubernatorial campaign in VA. He was quite impressive. I have to say that I was a little bit less than impressed with what Jarding did for Jim Webb. jmho.
The General gets it right.
Competence--What a concept!
Just think of how on earth she spend close to $30 million running essentially unopposed in her senate rate!
I think Wes benefits from having a lot of volunteer support - I, for one, have already informed my real job that I will be working just as hard and as many hours as a volunteer on the campaign, should there be one. In whatever capacity I can be of service to said campaign...
by the early announcers and those working behind the scenes so that when Wes comes in the "handlers" will be all taken up. What will be left? US, and millions like us. And people who will work for peanuts and get the job done.
to me too Noel... I think you are onto something there -- had similar thoughts one -- way to not have to deal with the consultants without insulting them is to wait until they are all hired out ... then run the campaign that agrees with Wes' message not theirs ....
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
I think an average Clark supporter will be more generous than other candidates' supporters. I get the sense that the rest of you feel like I do that it's important that Clark win for the sake of our country and the world at this moment in history; so we'll feel more compelled to sacrifice a more substantial portion of our income for this cause. Other candidates' supporters I get the impression that they merely prefer their certain candidates' personality and they'll be content with a modest donation so they will feel like they are part of a movement.
Clark supporters will give, and many will
give more, because they want a better country
Bill (from RI)
the VA Senate race for a while. He was virtually broke when he started but after George Allen messed up with "macacca" and people saw that the race was competitive, money came rolling in for Webb!
By the end of that campaign, Webb had raised over a million dollars (if not more)!
I do not know how applicable that example might be to Gen. Clark but Jim Webb overcame huge financial obstacles against Allen (who started out that race with millions of dollars) to win!
Whoever wins the Democratic nomination will have all they need in the way of funds. It's the long road to the primaries that candidates will have to fund. There is also the matter of staffing the campaign. As Wes learned last time around, people resources also become lean the longer one waits.
I am interested in the timing of things these days as they apply to funding races. Like Tom R. said in another blog, Obama will need several "acts" to keep his "star status" fresh over the long haul. For now I think he will experience a funding surge.
WesPAC has managed to stay funded and operational through the last general election and that is a good sign for both Wes and the Clark community. BUT the money he will need is significant and will depend on volume, not every loyal Clarkie maxing out to $2,000.00.
has already chosen his team - a nod, wink and a handshake goes a long way from a man of Wes' stature.
The maximum individual contribution is now $2100.00 - so please, if you are able to max out, don't forget the extra $100. or just keep that back for the
train!!
That's the amount PER YEAR, right?
So, could one actually give that twice, once in '07, once in '08?
someone, can't remember who it was, responded that it was for the campaign cycle.
I'll take a look back on my comments list and see whether I can find the post, then post it here.
For campaigns, the $2100 limit is for an election cycle, not a calendar year. The primaries are one cycle, and the general election is a new cycle.
The calendar limit applies to PACs, not to campaigns.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
If not now, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
just had a look at my comments and was going to come back here and ask how on earth can you search comments because there's no search box! Saved me you both did.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/citizens.shtml
"Some of them put on their cowboy boots and put their feet up on the desk." -Wes Clark
I don't think that that's what Gordon said. Any money you give to the exploratory rolls into the first cycle (primaries), and counts against that limit. The max, then, is $4200 if the candidate becomes the nominee, $2100 if he/she doesn't. You can give the full $4200 up front, but the second $2100 is held in reserve, and returned to the donor if the candidate doesn't make to the general election.
I think. At least that's what I've been told.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
If not now, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
unlimited, there are millions of people out
there that want to see the General run.
Ask why the General was the most sought out
speaker in the 06 elections??? Ask Sen.
Webb, ask Governor Kaine.
I am NOT saying it will be easy, but I am
very confident the General can raise the
dough $$$.
There's a lot of republicans that want the
General to run, even former BU$H supporters I have talked, too. If there is one candidate that can
unite this country, it is Gen. WES CLARK
Bill (from RI)
Bill,
If ther are indeed "millions" of people that want to see Wes run, then there will be no questions he will run and be amply funded...but to be honest I don't think there is one candidate running or thinking of running who has "millions" behind them yet. A few thousand yes, but as less than half of elegible voters vote and there are no hard statistics on how many people actually pay attention to politics in between elections, I would say fundraising is going to be challenging for ALL the candidates...even Wes.
If we each gave a dollar, there's the first million. Most of us can probably give at least 10 or 20 bucks--that's 10-20 million. If we each give 100 bucks...we'll be okay.
Rudy and Hillary will be shaking down everybody else in NY. It's good to know somebody there will be helping Wes. It's going to take reaching people all over the country this time. Certain candidates have more of a lock on big cities, like Chicago for Obama (maybe Hill) and NYC for Rudy and Hill.
like Donald Trump will be giving money to these two? Regular folks like us will be looking at other candidates to support.
if a candidate isn't raising the cash from a million small donors, what are they doing running anyway? It's the Republicans who do the beholden to big money thing. People can actually start looking for ways to save money so donating doesn't have to hurt. I dropped call notes from my phone service for example and went back to using an old fashioned answering machine. That saves at least $10 a month. I switched my cell phone to a family plan with my folks and my brother. I still have the same number, but it saves me $25 a month. Everybody should look at what they spend money on and see how they can budget better anyway. Just imagine if our government did that!!
There are a lot of things that volunteers can do that most campaigns have to pay for. In '04, most campaigns spent tens of thousands of dollars collecting signatures to get on the ballots in some states. The Clark campaign did the same thing for no money using volunteers.
We all bought our own gear and paid to run copies for flyers. remember the postcards we sent out from the designs Clarkies did online? We froze out fingers and toes standing on street corners holding signs. We did house parties to raise money. We started the whole thing with using cell phone minutes for phone banking long distance. We pioneered a lot in what is now mainstream for the netroots. We should be able to do it again.
to think that over time, there are a
million people who will give a $ 100.00
there are tens of thousand who will give
more than 100.00, but the key will be for
us Clarkies to inform other people, get them
excited, and contribute whatever they can,
and on & on, whether 10.00, 25.00 100.00,
or more.
there's a lot of good folks out there who
will give generously for a true leader, and
in my judgment a unity candidate
WES CLARK BRINGS OUT THE BEST IN PEOPLE
Bill (from RI)
my new night job, ... AND
when new hampshire rolls around, I am
taking a leave of absence to volunteer
listen to me.... all excited a little early.
anyhow, Wes has given so much, I want
first what is best for him and his family.
If he decides to run, the country will have
a chance for a real leader
COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY!!!
I used to believe that raising $50 million by late autumn 2007 was unlikely, if not impossible.
That was until I saw Eric Massa, the Democratic congressional candidate in New York State's 29th district raise $1.4 million.
Eric did this despite an antagonistic Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, little institutional support, and seeking the office in a district infamous for its lack of Democratic fundraising.
After Eric's experience, I believe a candidate with General Clark's national stature can raise the necessary funds.
I agree with Cate that such fundraising is daunting, and that it weighs heavily on the Clarks decision.
Also, we all must be mindful of the economic cost.
I estimate (and state in my political biography of General Clark) that the General lost 1.5 million in income as a result of his 2003/2004 candidacy.
Karma doesn't pay the mortgage or put food on the table. Wes, Jr. has mentioned it on more then one ocassion. The fact that his Dad has no personal fortune to fall back on is a major factor in making his final decision. That's not even on the tick list for guys like Kerry and Warner.
"When I run, I'll be the national security candidate." -- Wes Clark
I don't think Wes wants to run for president and I have thought so for awhile as I said before the Stan dust up now that I am radioactive to all you good Clarkies and he still has to apologize .......
[ throwing many things into one comment box ]
but I think Wes will run if he thinks the country needs him
can someone remind me what the link to the Kennedy school of government tapes are that Wes attended and Hagel attended and Peterson attended can't find it
I think after the VOP McLiebercan blogosphere tag that he got wherever it started from - that old Joe finally got the picture my guess he is not going to join McCain or vice versa... and that is a good thing in this election cycle..... so though politics goes for the jugular as a group ( not as a single person that has to accept responsibility ) the whispers that are never private online seems to have in my opinion gotten Joe to see that there are people and they have a voice and they don't like his politics and it got real personal because of what he did in Conn. with the GOP ROVE and BUSH
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma
http://home.pacbell.net/amsec/karm1a.html
Karma = cause and effect ( and it is alot like Euclidean space)
the step after karma = grace ( alot like 11 dimensions of string theory )
there are natural laws...
Definition
G. de Purucker, Occult Glossary: A Compendium of Oriental and Theosophical Terms, Theosophical University Press
(Karman, Sanskrit) This is a noun-form coming from the root kri meaning "to do," "to make." Literally karma means "doing," "making," action. But when used in a philosophical sense, it has a technical meaning, and this technical meaning can best be translated into English by the word consequence. The idea is this: When an entity acts, he acts from within; he acts through an expenditure in greater or less degree of his own native energy. This expenditure of energy, this outflowing of energy, as it impacts upon the surrounding milieu, the nature around us, brings forth from the latter perhaps an instantaneous or perhaps a delayed reaction or rebound. Nature, in other words, reacts against the impact; and the combination of these two -- of energy acting upon nature and nature reacting against the impact of that energy -- is what is called karma, being a combination of the two factors. Karma is, in other words, essentially a chain of causation, stretching back into the infinity of the past and therefore necessarily destined to stretch into the infinity of the future. It is unescapable, because it is in universal nature, which is infinite and therefore everywhere and timeless; and sooner or later the reaction will inevitably be felt by the entity which aroused it.
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
I agree with Bill, and I am not concerned about having sufficient funds for Wes to do a great job in the primaries; the current 'delay' may be somehow related to donor issues.
Here's something about last time:
'In a 30-second campaign commercial aimed at young people released October 30, 2003, his presidential campaign made reference to the hip hop duo OutKast. In the ad, Clark is sitting in a coffee shop with a dozen middle-class young adults of various ethnicities. The young adults do not speak, but sit and listen as Clark appears to be answering their questions. "Well, to answer your questions, no, I would not have voted for the Iraq war...I am pro-choice and I am a strong believer in Affirmative Action...And I don't care what the other candidates say, I don't think OutKast is really breaking up. Andre 3000 and Big Boi just cut solo records, that's all." The last comment prompts a blond-bearded young man to say approvingly "all right" and to tap fists with Clark.
Clark's campaign also made an aggressive effort to develop a strong base of Meetup users, starting in November, 2003, and "Clark in 2004" was soon the second most popular Meetup topic, immediately following "Dean in 2004".
His campaign developed a very strong Internet following which was brought together with an ambitious Web initiative: the Clark Community Network, an integrated system of blogs and Web tools. Its E-Blocks, and campaign train allowed Clark to raise $10 million (of a total of $29.5 million) in the fourth quarter of 2003, raising more money than any other candidate during that quarter. This innovative technology was cutting edge, but largely overlooked by media excitement over the Dean Internet strategy.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark
[2004 Presidential Campaign]
The Wikipedia author got it a little wrong. Clark's MeetUp presence began strongly with the first truly national MeetUp meetings in July, grew quickly, and by October was huge.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
If not now, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
I intend to max out this time around...assuming it won't get me uninvited to other fundraising events...meaning that if there's a Clark event in town, I'd like to attend even though I'm not allowed to give more $$. I'd hate to have to hold off giving $ just to save some dry powder for future events.
and don't believe it would be made one this time, other than maybe if there were any pricey events sold out. Seems a good idea to keep some back for online fundraising which I didn;t think to do last time.
Wes jumped in last time in mid September, this time we are expecting mid march at the absolute latest, there is a lot more time to raise funds, much the way Howard Dean did in the summer of 03.
We loyal Clarkies need to be willing and able to put forward a lot of money early on to build infastructure and get Wes started. But the key, the real key to winning the money race for the 08 primaries is getting a lot of fresh blood willing to make many very small donations over an extended period.
How we go about bringing in that new blood will be up to the campaign in the end, but I personally think it comes down to building networks and bringing new people into the fold, be it neighbors friends or family that express an interest in Clark or complete strangers, the more people we have on Clark's email list them more impact he has.
The main thing is get people interested, get them to sign up, bring your laptop so they can get signed up on the spot, once the are on the email list Wes's words of wisdom will convince them he's not just worth voting for, having a president like him is worth paying for.
And also the power of online advertising is much greater than in 04, we need to be able to buy ad spots on places like myspace. we can keep his name out there better through the internet than TV and when the results come in they pundits will no longer be able to ignore him.
He raised 29 million last time and he was only in for 2 quaters, this time he'll be in for 4, it isn't any more crowded this time than last go around. Wes is viable financially so long as Gore doesn't jump in, which I strongly doubt will happen.
It's 50 million dollars, we have an early head start, what is different in 2008 from 2004? Everyone said Wes and the others would have no breathing room because Dean was soaking up so much money, are JE or BO really going to be so much worse than Dean?
Fundamentally the people who voted for and supported Clark last go around still feel the same way if not more so. It was amazing seeing how many Webb supporters who pulled of the impossible in beat George Allen were in fact Clarkies. The people who stuck with Clark in 2004 in Virginia may have been only 15% of the voting electorate.
But they were feircely committed to seeing Wes become president, all the people who voted for JE and JK had no commitment, they were not the donating type, they vote as the wind blows them. But that golden 15% is still there, they may not be talking, they may not be active, but don't doubt that they are in fact still there. And if wes runs it will only be a matter of time before they come back.
Lets put it this way, how many Clarkies have really turned on Wes since 04 in a way the don't like him personally or his stance on major issues? Very few, once Clark makes a positive impression on someone, it tends to stick. And that is what gives me hope despite all of the forces the MSM and the status quo dems being united against us.
One other important fact to consider, Webb supporters here and Virginia learned pretty quickly about "the rule of three" If we have a good candidate, and a good motivated grassroots organization we can win on one dollar for every three of theirs.
It worked against Harris Miller in the Primary, it worked against George Allen in the GE, I think it applies to Wes too, the main thing is we must win or do very well in Iowa.
The money will flow his way. He has MANY supporters in the
Hollywood crowd and the music industry. Wes will do fine raising money
but he must not wait too long this time to get in.
I was a member of the Draft Clark group in 2003-04. We all pledged
a donation in the event he decided to run. So on the day Wes announced
we raised as a collective group over one million dollars! That was just
from the internet Draft Clark people. Once he announces, all of his
former supporters will get on board.
so I worry about this too. My greatest worry at this juncture is getting a kick-ass media team. It's time to get our buzz on, and then the money will follow.
One other point and then I'll return to memorizing Clark speeches and worrying. Looking over the current field, the appeal to South and even the West is light. Bush runs on Texas money. I think the General may look for support far outside the beltway.
You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.--J. V. Marley
Donna: If General Clark tests the waters, there will be plenty to worry about then. I'd suggest that we all get some rest in the meantime.
The ballots are in a lock box.
The verdict will come soon enough.
They don't come cheap, either. And might I add, you get what you pay for. Wes might be able to scrimp on hotels and flowers and caterers but he's not going to be able to go cheap when it comes to staff. The top people demand top salaries. It's that simple.
"When I run, I'll be the national security candidate." -- Wes Clark
worrying - Hillary is not polling so good in Iowa... Obama has traction and Edwards is popular and Bush Cheney are inevitably (sp?) bad and their badnessssssss will raise the question in the collective mass mind..... who can handle the mess the BushCo has made and leaves behind ( if he ever intends to leave ) and the answer will be WES CLARK and the money will get there....stop worrying you all are making me sea sick ................where is the damn dramamine
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
then maybe you should move away from your computer until we get our answer. Fat chance that this crew is going to stop worrying prior to any announcement being made.
"When I run, I'll be the national security candidate." -- Wes Clark
to be out of control yourself l; and I'll complain about all the worrying you all do because it is way too much not useful and doesn't produce solutions so all due respect R-mom follow your own advise back away from your computer
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
eb, somehow I just don't see you as THE epitomy ofself-control LOL!
Get a grip, it's gonna be a long voyage...
watch and listen...
are getting in my face and you know fer sure I don't take that shit .... so don't do it period end of story
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
early-bird.....you jumped me, not vice-versa. I wasn't even replying to your post, anyway. I was responding to DonnaZ.
And I'm hardly out of control on the topic. Heck, compared to you, I'm hardly ever here!
I think it's you who needs to calm down. I certainly don't feel I deserve a stick in my eye because of some perceived slight you received from another blogger. Sheesh! Get a grip.
"When I run, I'll be the national security candidate." -- Wes Clark
I stopped at ALAMO; anything after that is pure misunderstanding - my attention span not long enough for draw out squabbles ......
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
"you seem to be out of control yourself I?" Careful, eb, you sound more like you are talking to yourself. LOL!
Honestly, eb, I think you are out of line here. Reggie always has the best of intentions. Everyone here has Wes' best interests in mind. We are all very concerned, and sometimes sharing the concerns is what we need to do. This is where we have always done it and sometimes, yes, we find solutions.
WE need to understand it's only going to get more intense when Wes announces.
Peace.
political consultant class is there it is almost like blackmail now if you don't hire them they go out of their way to hurt you... that's why Hillary put them on retainer so early so that they are shapening their teeth for her competition..... she knows the inside of politics who you have to pay (off) in the DC bubble ....... well if that what Americans still want that's what we will with a lot of awful pain deserve .......
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
http://www.colorofmoney.org/city.asp
The Color of Money: Campaign Contriburtions, Race, Ethnicity, and Neighborhood
2004 analysis - might be helpful to see this report get sample of the big picture
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
I can do from phone and online let me know Gordon
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
2000: The first-ever Internet art auction to raise money for a political party is set to launch, as more than 70 American artists will put their works up for sale to raise money for the Democrats. { PBS uses artists donated to their money raising drive every season }
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/30/democrats.art/index.html
http://www.phonefund.com/Testimonials.html
http://www.phonefund.com/?gclid=CKap3uDp6IkCFQtzYAod8A0FGw
Maybe an adaptable idea
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
..... bring it up again sometimes timing is as important as a good idea
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
http://www.personaldemocracy.com/node/866
EXCERPT
MAYBE ANOTHER ADAPTABLE IDEA
The easiest way to raise money over the mobile phone is by means of Premium SMS (PSMS). About 18 months ago the carriers launched a service that allowed 3rd party vendors to sell mobile services and charge consumers through their phone bill. Essentially this allows you to buy a service via SMS and have it charged to your phone bill. Now, the carriers launched this service mainly to facilitate entertainment-based programming. But the gentlemen over at Mobile Accord and Music for Charity Productions saw an even more powerful tool for PSMS in its ability to get people who are more and more mobile to interact with a cause. Its simple. You don't have to get people to right a check, receive annoying phone calls or sign up on a website. Just have them send a keyword like "PDF" via text message to a short code like, for example, DONATE (366283) and your donation for whatever amount will be on your next phone bill. All that is needed is a call to action and perhaps a mass gathering of people and you got your self a mobile fundraising campaign.
Just look at U2'S "One" campaign. During concerts, Bono told fans to take out their cell phones and text their support for OXFAM to a short code which then got flashed up on a big screen above the stage. Thousands did as Bono told. Now imagine if Bono told his fans to do the same thing only this time he also told them that they would be donating 99 cents or $4.99 to this or that charity. This is Dudelson's dream usage. SXSW Txt for Sweet Relief fundraisers was Dudelson's first mobile campaign, but it's his first of many as he wants to mashup musicians with nonprofits via the mobile medium. "Everyone needs a Short Code," he points out.
But his text messaging, fundraising and music mashup was right on the cusp of both worlds and was one of the most interesting and practical integration of the mobile medium into different media that I saw at SXSW.
Eventually, he found himself at a CTIA Wireless event in San Francisco where, it just so happened, several cellphone carriers were demonstrating Premium SMS (PSMS) technologies by holding live SMS "4CARE" and "2HELP" fundraisers for the victims of Katrina and the Tsunami. Customers of participating carriers could send a text message to the shortcode "2HELP" (24357) containing the keyword "Help" to make a tax deductible donation to the American Red Cross' relief efforts. Donations appeared on customers' monthly bills or were debited from prepaid account balances. The campaign closed in late October 2005.
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
time comes - - eventually will be
competing for youth & student votes - example of GOP student organization
http://www.studentsformccain.org/SFM.htm
Students For McCain Forms In NH
A Students for McCain group has formed in the state. The group is a national organization that is seeking volunteers in the Granite state. For more information the group, check out there website: http://www.studentsformccain.org/SFM.htm
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
and they all go to each others parties and will no doubt give money to Rudy and Hill.
The Guardian says Obama thinks he needs $70 million to enter the primaries next January. This article thinks Hillary may have bet all her chips on supporting the war and not denouncing it as Edwards did.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1993010,00.html
If Hillary were to decide not to run, the rest of the candidates wouldn't have to raise as much. It's because of her they need $100 million.
I see you've postd the graphic of the tea cups but you neglected to mention us in print. I demand you give us equal time. HA!
"When I run, I'll be the national security candidate." -- Wes Clark
us on CCN know what Wes can or can't raise in money; I'd say don't get psyched out by the media stories about money... they like to pick the candidates they know will accept their lobby money and give them a big pay day...they have a vested interest to shape the field with discouraging stories that slant away from their RINGER...... don't buy it
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
We don't know, but I'd dare say we can make an educated guess.
My guess is Wes will raise a lot more than the media expects, I don't see any facotrs in 08 that are different from 04 that would put the brakes on Clark's fundraising.
I don't buy the MSM hype about Obama and Edwards sucking up all the Oxygen, Howard Dean didn't in 04, nor will JE and BO in 08.
I don't blame people for being worried though, we're all concerned because we want Wes to win, we can't afford more politics as usual "leadership". Not in this day and age, not at this time in history.
I worry too for same reason maybe it's because I am drinking milk again I am worrying less
- stayed away from milkd for years because it has growth hormones and antibiotics in it and the price of organic seemed too much and the mucous factor all outweighed the benefit so went to rice milk; but changed my mind on organic milk it seems worth it; crockpot one quart of milk with oine cup water with six whole dates; for some reason kitchen chemistry the date milk cooked for eight hours doesn't create mucous like uncooked milk; and the calcium is good to calm frayed nerves; it makes wonderful aroma in the kitchen all day; date milk is a good meal replacement... and it tastes great....
the worry issue is a sublimation of mixed tensions; Stan insulted me and the CCN- felt the divisive energy it caused caused; I stood up for myself ( as should you all if Stan insults you) and then a few people piled on... it's not about worry... it is because of worry scapegoating and bickering gets going; but maybe I am being overly broad; Stan had a buga boo under his saddle (and Stan you still owe me an apology for bothering me with misplaced worry anger ) THAT's what this is about James ......bickering ......
bicker safe
fight fair
"We've got to create a new strategy that works, that puts the United States in a leadership role, but tries to bring nations together instead of setting one against another." - Wes Clark 1/16/ 2007
I hope the General will get in regardless. If he can make a good impression early some money will follow. Then you have to hope for a snowball effect.