Warning on Iran - Wes in NH


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From the Portsmouth Herald

Warning on Iran

By Dave R. Choate

(snip)

"This administration's foreign policy, in my mind, has not been adept," Clark said. "I've been saying for years now that the Iraq war was one we did not have to fight, and with Iran the military option should be the last resort, after this country uses diplomacy and economic leverage."

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On the subject of China's recent anti-satellite missile launch, Clark said he saw the move as both a test of technology and a show of power. He said the best course of action for the U.S. would be to maintain a friendly relationship with the growing world power.

"We should consider a global environment in which it is no longer larger powers and smaller powers fighting. It's important for the world to rebuild an international consensus behind the United Nations, so force is not proscribed for every situation," Clark said.

He also asserted that energy efficiency was critical for the environment. Clark said he would favor the creation of a national energy policy that would restrict carbon usage to the lowest possible level and help make citizens more aware of the problem.

"It's easy to say (that there's no global warming) when it's March and there's snow on the ground in New Hampshire," he said. "A lot of people say it's a cycle, and yes, that's partly true, but the majority of that impact is in greenhouse gases."

Clark was in Portsmouth for a fund-raiser for U.S. Rep. Carol Shea-Porter, D-N.H., who he described as "really terrific."

Shea-Porter worked on Clark's campaign in 2003 and he returned the favor by appearing alongside her at a late-October forum in Hampton Falls.

"(Shea-Porter) has an incredible grasp of the issues. I think she's a wonderful representative, and maybe that's just the start of it," Clark said.

a little more at the link

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Submitted by CarolNYC on March 3, 2007 - 2:55pm.

And then this great picture of Jeannette Hopkins and her dog Star greeting Wes...


Submitted by BOHICA on March 3, 2007 - 5:42pm.

Is a keeper!

Someone once asked me if I had learned anything from going to war so many times.
My reply:
Yes, I learned how to cry.

Joe Galloway

Submitted by Donna Z on March 3, 2007 - 6:53pm.

I'll bet she could tell us a thing or two about what it means to be a real Democrat. I hope Carol and the General got a good turn out in spite of the yesterday's storm.

Wes looks dressed for the weather, although my daughter in MA told me that it turned to rain by evening.

You have not converted a man because you have silenced him.--J. V. Marley 

Submitted by Ellen on March 4, 2007 - 3:45am.

What does this sound like, folks? A statement of support for Carol, or something else????

This administration's 'foreign policy'

China: maintain friendly relationship

global environment: international concensus behind U.N.

energy efficiency for environment; carbon usage restrictions

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Submitted by Joe on March 4, 2007 - 1:50am.

"We should consider a global environment in which it is no longer larger powers and smaller powers fighting. It's important for the world to rebuild an international consensus behind the United Nations, so force is not proscribed for every situation," -Wes Clark

joe@Clark08.US


Submitted by Ellen on March 4, 2007 - 2:26am.

What, Joe?

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Submitted by Joe on March 4, 2007 - 3:02am.

On Unix (and like systems such as BSD and Linux) the text file .signature in ones home directory (folder) is appended to the end of an email message the user sends. This is sometimes referred to as a "sig file" or "dot sig file" and its decedents can be see even on the CCN board as below.

joe@Clark08.US


Submitted by Bernie Quigley on March 4, 2007 - 8:55am.

Stony silence from the outside world on General Clark's thoughts on a pending attack on Iran from the Bush administration. The country seems ready for peace: But peace is perhaps not ready for the country. The Dem candidates in front today ignore the plight; they will send us back to the '90s, the '60s, the '50s and pretend Iraq didn't happen. It gives Bush a free hand. And it will give McCain, who keeps Kagan and Kristol as key advisors, a free hand. Perhaps we have not yet seen the greatest tragety of our times: it is just around the corner. Only General Clark speaks of it.

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Submitted by noelschutz on March 4, 2007 - 9:14am.

but it is puzzling. I have several theories, but not sure any one of them is on track.


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Submitted by early-bird on March 4, 2007 - 9:33am.

the most recent:

Wesley Clark concerned about Iran
Laconia Citizen, NH - 23 hours ago
PORTSMOUTH (AP) — Wesley Clark said Friday that he's concerned with what he sees as a looming United States war with Iran. ...
Clark concerned about Iran Boston Globe
Warning on Iran Portsmouth Herald News
Iran War: Don't think it can happen? Think again. Huffington Post
all 7 news articles »Gen. Wesley Clark Weighs Presidential Bid: "I Think About It Everyday"
Democracy Now, NY - Mar 2, 2007
We spend the hour with General Wesley Clark, the retired four-star general. He was the Supreme Allied Commander of NATO during the Kosovo War. ...

"We should consider a global environment in which it is no longer larger powers and smaller powers fighting. It's important to rebuild an international consensus behind the UN so force is not proscribed for every situation." Wes Clark

 

 

this is the most recent google blog search:

Facts on the 1999 RTS TV station Nato Bombing - Wes Clark told the ... 13 hours ago by Catherine Mc  
I watched Wesley Clark's interview with Amy Goodman via Democracy Now yesterday. I enjoyed the interview so much, I was moved to write Ms. Goodman a letter. I addressed such to:

. Dear Amy Goodman & the Producers of ...
RAPID FIRE - Silver Bullets - http://www.rapidfire-silverbullets.com/

 

More On Wesley Clark 8 hours ago by sirnosir  
I only caught the end of Amy Goodman’s interview with General Clark. While I am morally and intellectually astounded by his position on cluster bombs, he did call for the outright ban of all landmines and nuclear weapons. ...
Sir! No Sir! - http://sirnosir.com/WordPress

 

DNC Winter Meeting: Ret. Gen. Wes Clark 2 Feb 2007 by hotlineblog  
Wes Clark. Standing ovations: 0. Used notes: didn't appear to. Introduced by: DNC finance chair Phil Murphy. Subtle Theme:I'ma general. This is a national security election. Overt Theme: I'ma general. This is a national security ...
Hotline On Call - http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/ - References

 

Wesley Clark Still Thinking about Running 13 hours ago by Poechewe  
WESLEY CLARK: Well, in a way. But, you know, history doesn’t repeat itself exactly twice. What I did warn about when I testified in front of Congress in 2002, I said if you want to worry about a state, it shouldn’t be Iraq, ...
Cold Flute - http://coldflute.blogspot.com/index.html

 

Democracy NOW with Gen. Wesley Clark 17 hours ago by pilgrim  
Before I get to the article, I have to say this isn’t exact new. This information comes from Woodward’s book _Plan of Attack_. The Bush Administration was convinced they were going to play hardball with Hussein’s ...
Confessions of a Pilgrim - http://www.3nailsministries.org

 

Gen. Wesley Clark: Decison to Attack Iraq Made 9/20/01! Saw ... 2 Mar 2007
This long interview with Clark includes many amazing comments and statements. He thinks about running for president every day. We should close Guantanamo. Bush & Co. planned to attack Syria, Lebanon, Iran and several other countries in ...
Digg / World & Business - http://digg.com/view/world_business - References


Submitted by Bernie Quigley on March 4, 2007 - 10:37am.

Noel: I was with Wes in Postsmouth, NH, Friday night. He spoke specifically and in lengthy detail on potential Iran invasion through most of his talk. An hour and half away, where I live, it rated a two-paragraph story in our local paper on the bottom of page two (below this headline for an article which took up half the page: "Proposal Could Lead to Gay Marriage"). I see this as denial journalism: It says "Let's talk about something else. War is two stressful." It is a form of journalistic infantilism. I think the average age of MSM reporter today is probably 55 - they don't want to think about war; they want to think about health insurance for their pending prostate operations. They also suffer from the illusion that they "make history"; that is, the thinks they like to think about become "history" if they write about it - MSM never makes history; when history wants to be made it is always with upstart periodicals like "Liberation" or S.S. McClure's "muckrakers" or even DKos. Emerson said people don't make events; event make people. The only place I've read detailed and ongoing coverage of pending invasion of Iran is in your publication, "Fighting Dems Newsletter" and I hope all subscribe. You all should get the Pulitzer. Wes made the point that the greatest tragedy could well be just ahead.

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Submitted by CarolNYC on March 4, 2007 - 11:35am.

I fear you are all too right...These people will just let us drift into this tragedy, this catastrophe before they'll even notice it....Sad, isn't it?

Oh, and Bernie, I loved your piece on the event...and thanks for letting us know that Wes spoke at length about Iran there. Good thing we have our own who give first hand accounts. We'd never know what really happeend if we had to count on the MSM for info.


Submitted by Bernie Quigley on March 4, 2007 - 5:54pm.

Thank you, Carol. I notice today that both George Will and David Brooks doused the leading Dems; Will saying the Dems are tired of BIllary and Brooks refering to it as "American Idol/Celebrity Deathmarch" which could be deadly tv by next year - MSM resonates these two in particular. The entire formatting could change (Cable News Network especially seems to have planned this as a marketing matrix about 10 years ago.) I think we are at a time of awakening and denial; Churchill spent years trying to get the Brits and the Americans to come to terms with the events that were overtaking them. Likewise we refuse to listen here. In this General Clark is the dark horse. If we wake up before next year we will go to him and seek him out. Perhaps quickly.

Do I understand that you are an art teacher? Here is an interesting story in a non-political vein: I participate in a forum with a small group of German and Swiss Jungian psychiatrists in Zurich and a few others. One of them (a Swiss) talked the other day of a dream he had of "asteroids pouring into Iran at nuclear sites." I told him this morning that I'd heard Wes say about the exact words in a seminar on Friday, but instead of "asteroids" it was missles. He also had written that in his dream there was a man with "asteroids on his left shoulder." I forwarded him a picture of General Clark from Kosovo in camie greens with four stars on his left shoulder.

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Submitted by CarolNYC on March 5, 2007 - 7:21am.

Unfortunately I am not an art teacher...though I wish I had the skill to be one. Perhaps that's another Carol. There are a few of us here.

I do love the dream story though....

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by early-bird on March 4, 2007 - 9:38am.

http://www.nytimes.com/cq/2007/02/12/cq_2267.html

From CQ Weekly: Five Questions for Jon Soltz, Co-Founder and Chairman, VoteVets.org

February 12, 2007

It was a strikingly somber, and well-placed, Super Bowl ad: A number of Iraq war veterans — notably, army specialist Robert Loria, gesturing with a hand-less left arm — criticizing President Bush’s case for sending more troops to Baghdad and urging senators to oppose the surge. For $117,000, customized versions of the 30-second spot were aired by WUSA in Washington and the CBS affiliates in Portland, Maine, and Duluth, Minn. The next day, Susan Collins of Maine and Norm Coleman of Minnesota were the only two Republicans to join with the Democrats in favor of an unsuccessful procedural move that would have opened a full debate in the Senate on war policy. Soltz, a 29-year-old captain in the Army Reserves who served in Iraq in 2003, started VoteVets last year.

Q. What was the idea behind the ad?

A. We wanted to portray that regular mainstream, moderate and even conservative veterans are asking hard questions about this war — men, women, officers, enlisted, injured and not — and that supporting the troops means stopping the escalation.

Q. And why did you draw such pointed attention to Robert Loria’s injury?

A. We wanted to show the realities of the war. That’s why Robert agreed to speak.

Q. Why did the ad target senators who have made it clear they oppose the escalation?

A. The fact of the matter is a filibuster on this means there won’t be a vote. We need to ensure that senators who say they are against escalation vote against it.

Q. Where did you find the money?

A. We are part of the Americans Against Escalation coalition that includes groups like the Service Employees International Union and Moveon.org. They helped us raise money as well as private donors.

Q. What’s next?

A. We’re going to keep the pressure on. We’re looking for new veterans to run in 2008, and we’re hoping to be a counterweight to these veterans organizations like the VFW that seem to be bought and paid for by a certain political party.

© 2006 Congressional Quarterly
 

 

 

 

"We should consider a global environment in which it is no longer larger powers and smaller powers fighting. It's important to rebuild an international consensus behind the UN so force is not proscribed for every situation." Wes Clark


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