Joe Lieberman is at it again
Submitted by Wes Clark on June 12, 2007 - 4:07pm.
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Joe Lieberman is at it again
After wrongly supporting George W. Bush's strategic blunder of attacking Iraq, and continuing to support Bush's failed policies after the invasion, Senator Joe Lieberman made irresponsible comments this weekend regarding military action against Iran.
On CBS's Face the Nation, Lieberman said, "If [the Iranians] don't play by the rules, we've got to use our force, and to me, that would include taking military action to stop them from doing what they're doing."
This type of "tough-talk" by the Bush Administration and folks like Senator Joe Lieberman is why VoteVets.org and I collaborated to create StopIranWar.com, calling for heavy diplomatic, economic, and political action to discourage the acquisition of nuclear capabilities by the Iranian government.
Over 40,000 people have signed our petition to President Bush, urging him to work with our allies and use every diplomatic, political, and economic option at our disposal to deal with Iran. Add your name to the petition today!
Senator Lieberman's saber rattling does nothing to help dissuade Iran from aiding Shia militias in Iraq, or trying to obtain nuclear capabilities. In fact, it's highly irresponsible and counter-productive, and I urge him to stop.
This kind of rhetoric is irresponsible and only plays into the hands of President Ahmadinejad, and those who seek an excuse for military action. What we need now is full-fledged engagement with Iran. We should be striving to bridge the gulf of almost 30 years of hostility and only when all else fails should there be any consideration of other options. The Iranians are very much aware of US military capabilities. They don't need Joe Lieberman to remind them that we are the militarily dominant power in the world today.
Only someone who never wore the uniform or thought seriously about national security would make threats at this point. What our soldiers need is responsible strategy, not a further escalation of tensions in the region. Senator Lieberman must act more responsibly and tone down his threat machine.
We cannot let people like Joe Lieberman dictate the terms of this debate.
Sign the petition to President Bush today!
Thank you for all you do.
Sincerely,
Wes Clark
for taking the responsibility to stand up to Senator Lieberman's irresponsible and foolish threats. His judgment, I think is very bad or he has an agenda that serves some purpose other than peaceful conflict resolution.
I find his statements shocking and I appreciate your courage and wisdom in speaking out to hold him accountable.
the man who questioned YOUR Democratic loyalties during the debates last presidential election. Using typical Republic tactics in which they accuse their opponents of exactly what they themselves are guilty of. You are too much a gentleman to throw that little gem back in his face, but we're not! LOL!!
Thank you for all your work trying to stop the next war before it starts General, and providing us the tools to take it on ourselves! Now THAT'S leadership.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
stating that. You never disappoint. Heck it was Al Sharpton who defended Wes and welcomed him.
"Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants."
Gen. Omar Bradley
General Clark, sir, it was just this kind of saber-rattling that brought me out of a post-stroke depression and into politics for the first time. As a veteran myslf, I couldn't stand the prospect of a pre-emptive war, and I got mad. Your wisdom, vision, and values, as you so eloquently articulated on CNN, then brought me into the Draft Clark Movement, and I remain firmly in your camp for whatever you choose to do.
Would that all politicians were as constant and steadfast in what they believe and propose. You have never wavered from your chosen path, and I feel so honored and humble to be part of your cause and associated with all the wonderful and talented people you have also drawn to your side.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
Democrats recognize true leadership when it becomes available to them. It is just hard for any Democrat who is not running for President right now to find a stage to stand on that allows them to be seen (hint, hint).
what the Rasmussens would look like if he announced?
C'mon General Clark...let's give them something to talk about!
(I do admire VP Gore but still scratch my head at his choice for running mate in 2000)
Gen. Clark, can you believe the complete disregard for basic facts by this charlatan? The whole administration up there is seriously in real NEED of some BRAINS!
Thank you Sir for keeping us frosty! I just pray someone with some real power is paying attention to you.
please...please...please...please...please...please...please..
please...please...please...please...please...please...please..
let this be the prelude to a run.
Please!!
People want leadership......and in the absence of leadership, they will listen to anyone who walks up to the microphone.
Lewis Rothschild, in "American President"
(WTNH) _ The Connecticut for Lieberman Party is calling on Senator Joseph Lieberman to resign from the U.S. Senate following his remarks made Sunday on CBS' Face the Nation regarding military action against Iran.
Lieberman said on the national television program that, "we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians."
The Connecticut for Lieberman Chair, Dr. John Orman, called for Lieberman's resignation saying that he "crossed the line" and "no longer represents the views of the citizens of Connecticut."
Orman, a longtime critic of Lieberman, took control of the minority party back in January.
http://www.wtnh.com/global/story.asp?s=6647788
"Some of them put on their cowboy boots and put their feet up on the desk." -Wes Clark
It is time for that (chicken)hawk to be unmasked once & for all- thank you once again for showing us the way: party before country, always, always: Never: political ideology before country as is practiced by Lieberman- a wolf in sheep's clothing indeed
Thank you for taking this up and doing it so well. Of course.
You are gifted with the words as well as some wisdom,
and it meant a great deal to see them and learn from them while we were still reeling from --- and trying to get our blood pressure down from --- Senator Lieberman's shocking comment.
Best to you and your dear ones,
Clearsky
Lieberman Advocates Iran Attack
The Onion responds appropriately.
As does Gen. Clark.
-Atrios 15:33
People want leadership......and in the absence of leadership, they will listen to anyone who walks up to the microphone.
Lewis Rothschild, in "American President"
you constantly inspire me. I ran out of superlatives for you a while back. Absolutely excellent, sir.
"Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants."
Gen. Omar Bradley
the petition. Hope to gosh I did it right!
WesPac
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Will try to get this out to as many people as I can. What I think of Joe Lieberman right now is best kept to myself.
We all appreciate your candor and courage to tell Joe that he is being irresponsible! This is a very dangerous game he's playing and I'm very worried.
From Salon
People like Joe Lieberman and the increasing "Bomb Iran" chorus of which he is a part are the precise opposite of "serious" and "tough." They are irresponsible and dangerous extremists and it is good to see Gen. Clark making that point clearly and unapolegetically. If these warmongers are to be impeded in what is plainly their goal of prompting a new war with Iran, only unapologetic rhetoric and candid explanations, like the one offered here from Gen. Clark, will suffice.
and I know that he's well regarded (and increasingly well known) by the liberal/progressive community. I'm glad to see him covering our guy!!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
"Only someone who never wore the uniform or thought seriously about national security would make threats at this point."
Just makes me feel all warm inside. Only if Wes could debate Lieberman in person. That would be sweeeet!!! I'm just as mad as anyone that Gore wasn't our President, but I'm glad Lieberman wasn't our vice-pres.
there is a "but." This has been all over the blogs today, but nowhere else. If/when you run for President, your comments will be reported. When you become President YOU will have direct influence/control of the policy which will keep America safe without engaging in unnecessary wars or violating our precious Constitution. I remember, in the movie "Field of Dreams," the "voice" saying, "If you build it, he will come." Kevin Costner's character took that on faith and built the baseball field from his corn field--and they came. Well, General, I don't know what your
"preconditions" are, but, IMO, it doesn't matter. If you run, they (and the money) will come.
Ken
Thank you, General Clark for speaking out, then and especially NOW, and for backing the REAL Democrat, Ned Lamont, when the rest of the DLCr's turned their back on their own primary's winner (including prez hopeful Obama).
You were correct then, as now.
I wish you well in your post-Fox-News media life!
PSSSSSST! I see the right-wing blogs are all over Col. Ken Allard quitting MSNBC citing "left wing bias". Looks like MSNBC could use an upgrade! That is, unless you have "other plans" 
I think Col. Allard was the guy I saw a couple of days ago saying that "we've tried talking with Iran, it didn't work." !!?!
Hubby and I couldn't believe he said that. Well, I could believe it because that's what I figured that was going to be the official line for dropping any pretext of diplomacy and clearing the way for military action.
Thank you Gen. Clark for speaking out and telling them how the cow ate the cabbage! :)
Wes Clark: Soldier, Scholar, Statesman.
I got the impression that even the token Republican at the America in the World Conference today was rolling his eyes at Lieberman.
at HuffPo, and not a negative one in the bunch. One sort of, but not really. Excellent job, as usual, General Clark! You honestly do make us all proud to be American's again!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
both have it!
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/12/gen-clark-rips-lieberman/
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/06/12/wesley-clark-responds-to-liebermans-bomb-iran-rhetoric/
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Thank you, General Clark. This needed to be said and you're the only one who's stepping up to say it. Once again, you're leading the way--the ONLY one stepping up to the plate. Now its up to us to help get this message spread far and wide.
from DownWith Tyranny!
....Although Bush wore a fancy dress uniform when he was making believe he was serving in some kind of champagne Air National Guard unit for rich people's spoiled brats during the Vietnam War, Cheney and Lieberman just avoided service entirely out of budding selfishness and strongly developed senses of entitlement. If any of the three have thought seriously about national security, it certainly doesn't show in the results.
General Clark, who takes national security very seriously and who has thought about it deeply, asks Lieberman to stop acting like a baboon with his ineffectual saber-rattling towards Iran-- saber rattling that will just strengthen world sentiment against the U.S.-- and increase political cohesion inside Iran.
High time for a reasoned response to Lieberman's ridiculous uber-hawk rhetoric. And who better to give one!
The General gets it right.
Competence--What a concept!
You are so right, Joe Lieberman and his ilk cannot be allowed to define this debate. Lieberman calls it "just talk." I guess he and Bill "Have a Chat" O'Reilly have the same undersatanding of what diplomacy is. They are dangerously irresponsible. Someone has to hold their feet to the fire, and a thousand thanks to you for continuing to do this. I wish we could all sign the petition a thousand times. You always elevate the public discussion with your insight and integrity.
again for continuing to provide leadership on such an important issue - and such a refreshing contrast with such "leaders" as Senator Lieberman.
Elective warfare is blatantly irresponsible - and, I'm sorry to say, the Senator came across as a complete lunatic. I cannot understand why the Democratic leadership, with the exception of yourself, are not front and center on this issue.
He won over Oklahoma in the last Presidential primaries! His face, demeanor, intelligence,personality,calmness, confidence, and common sense won me over immediately. Glad he's going after the ridiculous Lieberman statements!!
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...Jim Inhofe notwithstanding, of course, and repeated votes for Repubs.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
We need to find a way to get rid of that creep in 08. I have been checking to see if the Dems have put up anyone that can take him on.So far there is a possiability they might put Andrew Rice (which is already in our State Senate) against him. So far this isn't set in stone yet. But we'll see.
Inhoffes gotta go. He only serves big oil and energy interests.
at HuffPo. :D
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
since I posted... and my post was still not on the page when I went to bed last night.
I'll go check it all out. :)
Well, I think it is anyway. LOL!
231. Bleubeard
If Lieberman gets elected again -- as a Democrat -- as a Repuglican -- or as an Independent -- we should bomb Ct.
and got a chuckle out of it, too!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
Hmmm I guess since Don Rumsfeld resigned someone has to take over.
When I asked people to sign the petition many of them didn’t know the next move will be Iran, and many of them were upset and expressed their disappointment how the war in Iraq was and is still handled... And I only talked to about 100 people and 98% didn’t want to see more wars.
Petition is a great way to remind, educate and let others engage in changing the course towards the right direction.
In addition, why don’t you add more artillery such as opening your own radio or news network station? You will have Bill O’Rielly hide under his desk...
How I do wish that you would post your message
at D-Kos for the edification of our Kossackian
friends.