Yeah, that would be nice.

Good idea.

Blue State of Mind

It works now! email me if you want to be involved in starting new GD threads under that account.

The consensus so far for the GD thread is for many threads with no pages. 63% for more thread with no pages, 37% for fewer threads with pages. Pretty clear mandate, I think.

And call us in the morning! It's giving me a stomachache not a headache, but it is getting better. At least the pink is gone!

whereas this newfangled thing has threads poping up like mushrooms. . .the land of Oz we are. . .show me the yellow brick road. . .please!

For Clarksanity in 2008

If we stay on one thread, it won't be that much different than the old way. I'm working on organizing the "generation" of these threads. The idea is to keep each GD thread to 150 or fewer comments so we don't have pagination, which messes up the [new] tags. If you'd like to be involved in that, email me. You can contact me by clicking on my name.

The link goes to atrios but I cannot find anything on goldberg and npr via google news. Is it a secret? The comment sounded like it was already done. I will have to think about a listener strike with picket lines. If we just stop supporting the local stations, they go away and the repubs get what they wanted all along.

NPR has the link to Goldberg and Scott Simon from this morning. I didn't bother to listen to it, but if you search for Goldberg on NPR, it's the first link (I think).

Ok in addition I have found this amusing savaging of JG. I did not realize he was the guy who started most of the media frenzy over monica and the polished knob...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/cole1.html

I have a feeling that many people are just going to be left with the debt! How awful!

Remember, the housing bubble is mostly in Blue States. It will be timed to reach a max depth when contributions to Dems are the most critical. In flyover country housing did not rise as far as the coasts. Florida and CA and the cities will take it on the chin...

I think it's worst in VA though. I have a friend who's moving down there. OMG! She can't find a decent townhouse for under $550K. Can you imagine???

Don't even look at prices around here.

I was thinking that as I typed. I don't know what the prices are in the relatively close NJ burbs. But they've always been high. The townhouses my friend is looking at were around $275K when we were looking down there 5 years ago.

Prices in the city have always been pretty high, but nothing like it is now.

Ahem--
Got a million? Sorry - not enough for a house here, gotta look at condos. Might find a teardown for 2 million in a good area.
A million gets you a 1917 fixer in a bad neighborhood that was last remodeled before WW II....
Laywers, engineers, professionals-- no more houses. Into condos now or drive 3 hrs to get into the city.
L A Real Est. report
Back to you!

For a whole house? That's a bargain!

Tear Down.
Then you gotta rebuild which EVERYONE is now doing. I have not lived outside the Sounds of Construction since bush got selected.
My street has potholes so deep from the cement trucks that the birds are using them as watering holes!

Houses around us are anywhere from 2 Million for little ole fixers to 30 million -- and that's the active market now...for some reason :/

2 BR. apartments are going for that here.

Yeabut.....are they teardowns?
Or can you actually LIVE in them (too lazy to do BBCode tags!)

With the prices of houses in your neighborhood I'd expect you to have servants to do the BBCode for you!

Barry

www.njforclark2008.com

Wouldn't you know that lazy BBCode servant takes off Saturdays..
EVERY Saturday! Leaves me with the chore all by myself. What's a gal to do?

Guess I can't be expressive on Saturday.
{this is where I would have inserted a frowning faced emoticon if she were here and working}

I just browsed the Voice. It depend on the neighborhood and sq footage. They started at about 1400 and I stopped looking when it got up to 8500. The 1400s are probably tiny. Now that's for a new place. If you've been in for a while you get stablization, so you're not paying as much.

OK, that's interesting. It's hard to get anything at 1400 here but you can go like Hollywood or downtown (east) and get some small apartment unit. Maybe 2 bedrm there. Further east, cheaper rents.

In West side (Sunset Strip to Brentwood area) you will get a nice Condo or house for 5000 to 10000 - but not anything of any size or that great.
Then the next jump is the 25-50,000 that gets you a nice 4 br beach house or a good house in the hills, pool, view, remodeled, plenty of Brs.

There are also higher ones but they're reserved for the ridiculously rich...a growing subgroup out here these days.

I want my state back!!!

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia

you're talking about an actual piece of land. I don't even have access to prices on actual land here.

It's different, not a comparable when you have vertical housing prices. Soon, we may all be at that level (vertical)in respective cities.
We could compare other places in New York state where there are existing houses, but it's apples and oranges.

What are your rentals like there now Reg?
For example-- the 2 BR place for 2 million, what do you think it would rent at? Just curious.

I was just commenting that the BUBBLE is bad in VA, which was red, right? I thought I'd heard that the BUBBLE was worst in the Fairfax County area, but I could be wrong. It appears that housing prices have doubled there in the last 5 years.

Here about 20 miles north of Philly as the crow flies, my 1960 suburbs home has doubled value in the past 3 years. Not bad if I could sell, take the extra money out and buy something smaller, but I would have to move at least 40 miles or so west into Red Pennsylvania. Too far to commute for me, even with a Prius.

We've been bubbling up around 20-25% per year since the first coronation and Greenspans sneezing fits began.

However our affordability rate has sunk to a new low of 16%. The country average is around 50% and a healthy city shouldn't go below 45% at any time.

That means only 16% of our homebuying public can actually afford to buy a home here. Those unable have been buying out of town and sitting on the freeway (misnomer) for 6 hrs per day , then working 10 hrs per day to pay for their gas and house in the burbs...

California is insane.

The Great Mogambo Guru speaks on The Housing "Bubble"!

- Kurt Richebacher, everybody's favorite economist, says that the bursting of a housing bubble is bad news, from both a theoretical angle and from "Evidence of sharply slowing economic growth" that is "accumulating by the week for Britain and Australia, both belonging to the Anglo-Saxon family of housing bubble economies. Flattened house prices in both countries have drastically curbed home equity withdrawal, essentially with prompt, drastic adverse effects on retail sales." And now everyone is looking at us Americans, because we, too, are one of these selfsame Anglo-Saxon countries that is in the midst (or end) of a gigantic housing bubble that even Alan Greenspan can see (he calls it "froth"), and he is on record as declaring that neither he or any of his friends can ever even SEE a bubble until after it bursts! So this housing bubble must be huge if even Greenspan can see one!

Mike "Mish" Shedlock at the WhiskeyAndGunpowder.com site have taken a look into the future, and they turn to me with ashen faces and expression of shock and say "Massive amounts of announced layoffs in the banking and telecom industries will start kicking in the second half of the year. Eventually, this will spill over and affect housing just as it has in the United Kingdom and Australia. The United Kingdom has just about finished year one of a housing bust, and Australia is well into year two." And China is trying to cool down a housing bubble there, too, which means that they will have a bust.

And the housing bust may be starting here, too. As one piece of evidence, in the newsletter View From Silicon Valley, they write that published reports show that in the local market "y-o-y volume declining faster than y-o-y prices are rising." Oops!
~~~

So much more at Oil. Gold. Silver. Ommmm.

by The Mogambo Guru, Richard Daughty...the angriest guy in economics
Archive from August 17, 2005

I have a question as well. How do you tell what something is rated? I tried rating something and there is no indication of what the rating is.

will see this ever, but Arky Sue I think the rating thing is a 24 hour delay or something. Maybe tomorrow we can rate? Or tonight? The only think I've been able to rate is opening posts to get the GD posts to the top of the list...

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia

It's called Question on comment moderation. I rated it a 5. I see nothing, though. Anyone else see anything that indicates I rated it?

The only thing I see is (rating) at the end of the subject line. It doesn't tell me what it is rated. I don't see that at the end of the other lines.

My original post now shows (rating) after the subject line - to me anyway - but when I click on it I don't see a number rating or go anywhere else. I'm going to change my settings to see only posts rated over 2. Try rating the original post to "1" if you can. Maybe I'll see it go away.

1) Where do you change your threshold?
2) Can at least one other person please rate that post? It may be that it won't show up until several people have rated it. That's the way it works on some other blogs.

Upper rate of the blog, next to number of posts per page.

Blue State of Mind

thanks. I had thought that was which page you wanted to be on, but you are right, I think. "Which page" makes no sense!

at the top of ThIS page there is a place with number of posts per page? I don't see that??

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia

I have it at the top and bottom of each page.

gave it a 5, refreshed and nothing came up...Is there another way to "save" it after you chose the rating #?

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia

What bunk. Do these people want their children to be ignorant and unemployed. Science and technology are the only things that might get us out of the major mess we are in now.

Creation scientists are now asserting that the long-held "theory of gravity" is flawed, and they have responded to it with a new theory of Intelligent Falling.

"Things fall not because they are acted upon by some gravitational force, but because a higher intelligence, 'God' if you will, is pushing them down," said Gabriel Burdett, who holds degrees in education, applied Scripture, and physics from Oral Roberts University.

Often the question is asked: Is our children learning?

Cthulhu 4 Preznit--Why vote for petty evil?

Once people get the hang of finding the right one. We're working on a plan for that now.

If we do it the other way, we won't have [new] markers.

on "dead" threads. That always happened.

there may have been "issues"
which needed addressing
in the very location
wherein they took place...

that's always good for the soul even if no one hears? yathink?
I missed the lesson on emoticons and don't know where to locate nor have I the time at the moment......laters

"Freedom and dignity spring from within the human heart. They are not imposed. And inside the human heart is where the impetus for political change must be generated." From Broken Engagement by Gen. Wesley K Clark

You didn't used to view your comments as "Group threads together"? That's the default now. "Strict Chronological Order" used to be the default. At the top of the thread, you'll see some combo boxes. Change from Threaded List -- expanded to Flat List -- expanded to see what you're used to.

You may have, anything is possible in the blogosphere.

Barry

www.njforclark2008.com

Well, I'm either here or I'm in.......

The Twilight Zone (cue spooky music) ;)

Congrats Incog- You found us.
Now just try to keep track of where we are at any given time!
Have fun!

Thanks, cutie. I'll try. ;)

I am very much a techie and I am OK with change as long as the change is better but so far this is not. I think the reason they are not doing the old "Generally Speaking" thread is to encourage all of us to interact on other blogs more.. but we are pushing these "fake" open threads that do not show on the front page. If you at least want it to stay in the best of blogs.. which really would not be a good use of the Best Of Blogs.. then all need to vote these "fake" open threads as a 10.

So far.. not impressed... some of it is good other parts need help.

There's no other reason as far as I know. They said that drupal doesn't allow them to do that. I'm not sure that makes sense. But I don't think that they'd lie to us about the real reasong--not to that level.

We are voting the "fakes" up. But trolls rate them down. The real open thread does not work because it's over 150 posts. Unless you read newest first, it's completely unreadable.

We have some workarounds in mind that we can do just as regular old users to make the "fake" threads more apparent.

You know I've always been open to the idea of moving more discussion to personal blogs and focusing less on GD -- but if you can't track replies to your own comments the whole thing becomes a mess. The more threads you're active in, the more you need shortcuts to find what comments have attracted replies.

I went and logged into DU for the first time since before I went to the US last night because of the frustration here and I've been using DKos more.

Spoo!
And the body of my comment is not empty-- I take that personally!

oh well now that you've replied to my comment I am no longer able to edit for double spoos. SPOO of course shoulda been said

"Freedom and dignity spring from within the human heart. They are not imposed. And inside the human heart is where the impetus for political change must be generated." From Broken Engagement by Gen. Wesley K Clark

What?!
No double spoo edit function here?
Man..... What were you people thinking?!

That is familiar to many. Maybe New Open Thread to distinguish. Then rather than edit to Old Open Thread, edit: Open Thread (8 27 05) as standard procedure? mebbe

"Freedom and dignity spring from within the human heart. They are not imposed. And inside the human heart is where the impetus for political change must be generated." From Broken Engagement by Gen. Wesley K Clark

CURRENT DISCUSSION HERE or CURRENT DISCUSSION THREAD or something. Um, does anyone know what "moderate comments" is about? Is that how you rate?

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia

You pick in the combo box for all the different posts you want to rate, and then you click Moderate Comments. But, we still haven't figured out how to SEE the ratings!

Icantbelieve - if you do a poll, I think you need to start a new blog first. I did just a poll and can't find it unless I go to "track" in my account.

'Generally speaking' could be read on the fly as General Speaking and they would think it was not an open thread for discussion. Just my observation.

"Freedom and dignity spring from within the human heart. They are not imposed. And inside the human heart is where the impetus for political change must be generated." From Broken Engagement by Gen. Wesley K Clark