Dana Milbank on Hillary: "The press will savage her no matter what, pretty much"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 30, 2007 - 11:48pm.
Media
Hello Everyone:
I have already credibly documented that there is outright bias toward Hillary Clinton by certain "pundits" in the mainstream media as well as a ridiculous amount of mainstream media attention being focused on "horse race politics" as opposed to the actual substance of the candidates:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14242
Joe Sestak did a great job of defending Hillary to a very biased Chris Matthews!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 28, 2007 - 5:40am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13942
Media Pundit Admits: "We talk about polls... We're creating the inevitability"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on November 19, 2007 - 11:52pm.
These facts were very openly and blatantly admitted to by certain media pundits on CNN Reliable Sources this morning. Right below is the portion of that transcript with this key dialogue!
I was glad to see this in one sense because I know it is true while many media pundits do not admit to it but in another sense I was not glad to see it because it is so wrong and because it represents what true and responsible journalism SHOULD NOT be like in my opinion!
Here are some of the key quotes from the transcript below about this blatant media bias toward Hillary Clinton and the free media ride that Barack Obama is getting which in my opinion is NOT responsible and professional journalism that is SUPPOSED TO BE fair and objective:
1) Dana Milbank admitted "some of our reporting is self-fulfilling:"
HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: "Is that a problem, sort of the repetitious nature of campaign trail reporting?
DANA MILBANK, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Yes. And some of our reporting is self-fulfilling.
Barack Obama was supposed to come out with a major new reintroduction of himself the very day this -- the Bhutto assassination broke. He got drowned out..."
2) Roger Simon of The Politico gave this very arrogant answer to the questions of "Well, who exactly anointed the press to be the arbiter of what's a win, what's a good win..." and "How did we get so much power in this process?"
KURTZ: "Well, who exactly anointed the press to be the arbiter of what's a win, what's a good win, what's a strong win, what's a respectable second place finish, and what's a surprising third place showing? How did we get so much power in this process?
ROGER SIMON, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, POLITICO.COM: It's what we do. We got it by default. No one else is going to do it. We're going to let the candidates choose who's the winner? Hey, it's what we exist for..."
3) Dana Milbank said about Hillary Clinton "The press will savage her no matter what, pretty much:"
KURTZ: "And it is great, the retail campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire. It is fun to cover and it is real, but it's -- when the votes are counted and we decide who did well -- for example, Hillary Clinton, let's say she doesn't win Iowa. Let's say she gets edged out by 1,000 votes.
Is the press going to savage her as a loser?
MILBANK: The press will savage her no matter what, pretty much..."
4) Dana Milbank also said about Hillary Clinton that the press "really have their knives out for her, there's no question about it out there:"
KURTZ: "If she (Hillary) wins?
MILBANK: Well, obviously if she wins by any great margin -- the press with Hillary Clinton, it's a poisonous relationship. And I visited the various campaigns out there. It's a mutual sort of disregard. And they really have their knives out for her, there's no question about it out there..."
5) Dana Milbank admitted that "Obama gets significantly better coverage than Hillary Clinton does, and given an equal performance he'll come out better for it" because journalists "dislike Hillary Clinton:"
KURTZ: "And to what extent do you think that is affecting the coverage of Senator Clinton?
MILBANK: I think it unquestionably is. And I think Obama gets significantly better coverage than Hillary Clinton does, and given an equal performance he'll come out better for it.
KURTZ: Is this because journalists like Obama better than Hillary or...
MILBANK: It's more that they dislike Hillary Clinton. There is a long history there, her antagonism towards the press. It's returned in spades. And it is a venomous relationship that I see out there.
KURTZ: Interesting..."
Here are my conclusions about this which I hope that ALL Democratic primary voters will very seriously think about BEFORE they vote:
1) This is good information to keep on file to bring up with the undecided voters who you talk with in the field as well as the soft supporters of other Democratic primary candidates.
These people need to very clearly understand that biased mainstream media coverage against Hillary Clinton and which tries to help promote Barack Obama THAT IS NOT BASED ON REAL ISSUES AND SUBSTANCE definitely has to be taken with a grain of salt in my opinion because it is NOT objective, it is NOT credible, and it is also NOT responsible reporting!
2) The tough questions have to be asked of Barack Obama RIGHT NOW BEFORE any primary votes are cast because Obama will no longer get this free ride in the media IF he is the nominee and WHEN he is negatively defined as a candidate by the 2008 GOP nominee, The GOP attack machine, Rush Limbaugh, extreme right wing Neocon talk radio, Drudge, FOX News, and the Neocon GOP media rapid response blogosphere:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14153
ANALYSIS: Barack Obama's three most vulnerable areas that need to be brought up!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 17, 2007 - 5:52am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14107
ANALYSIS: The tough BUT fair questions I have NOT heard Barack Obama answer yet!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 12, 2007 - 10:45am.
3) The other side may be wrong on most of the key issues BUT they are not stupid and there is very little if anything that they miss when it comes to media watch, rapid response, and being able to spin a story the way that they want people to see it:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13578
ANALYSIS: Why Rush Limbaugh is so powerful & what many media pundits do not get!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 10, 2007 - 1:47am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/8841
ANALYSIS: A great Washington Post article about how the media affects Democrats!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 5, 2006 - 2:03pm.
Hillary Clinton has already taken all that the other side can dish out to negatively define her as a candidate over the last 16 years while Barack Obama has NOT been put through this process very much yet. This is exactly why right now that "Hillary's high negatives are an illusion compared to Obama or any other Democrat:"
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13992
Hillary's high negatives are an illusion compared to Obama or any other Democrat
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on November 28, 2007 - 4:49pm.
I hope that ALL Democratic primary voters will at least very seriously think over and consider this important information about what the media is doing BEFORE any primary votes are cast because once there is a presumed nominee, then it will be very difficult for Democrats to make any changes without an awful lot of embarrassment!
The future of the world for many years to come is literally riding on who wins the 2008 election so it is very important in my opinion that Democrats cut through all of this media spin and BS and get it right based on the merits of each candidate when they vote to choose their nominee!
Mitch Dworkin
http://www.securingamerica.com/
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/10756
StopIranWar.com: "War is not the answer"
Submitted by Wes Clark on February 21, 2007 - 11:40am.
http://www.securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7191
Listen to Gen. Wes Clark fight for Dems on Sean Hannity's radio program: An excellent example for all of us to follow and what we all need to be doing to help fight back against extreme right wing Neocon smear propaganda!
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/30/rs.01.html
CNN RELIABLE SOURCES
Bhutto Assassinated; Interview With David Yepsen
Aired December 30, 2007 - 10:00 ET
HOWARD KURTZ, HOST: "Jessica Yellin, you mentioned a few moments ago that even on the day when Benazir Bhutto was murdered, the concerns among voters that you were watching and talking to were, you know, the more typical taxes -- the economy, healthcare and that sort of thing. Why does that -- is that not reflected in a lot of the coverage? Is it the fact that the press, you are out there every day with the candidates who are pretty much saying the same things, and we need a new narrative, a new story line, so a big event then gets perhaps distorted a little bit?
JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's no secret that the media likes to cover conflict and what's new. I mean, we do it every day. And, yes, it's that we just want the latest story sometimes on the air. And it does, you know, sometimes when you are out in the field get frustrating that the whole picture of what you're covering isn't fully portrayed out there, but it's also the nature of the beast, and, you know, we're the new, the news.
So it's what gets -- it gets you on air, and it gets people paying attention. And some of the latest issues though are sort of, frankly, dull. We've heard it so many times before, it would get painful for all of us to keep hearing about their positions on healthcare. How many times can you keep reporting that?
KURTZ: Is that a problem, sort of the repetitious nature of campaign trail reporting?
DANA MILBANK, "THE WASHINGTON POST": Yes. And some of our reporting is self-fulfilling.
Barack Obama was supposed to come out with a major new reintroduction of himself the very day this -- the Bhutto assassination broke. He got drowned out. So, in that sense, it is self-fulfilling and it does make it relevant. It made Giuliani more relevant because we all started talking about him while he's sunning himself down there in Florida.
KURTZ: You were there as well.
MILBANK: I much prefer Florida, I must say.
KURTZ: All right.
Now, with four days to go before the Iowa caucuses, Roger Simon, how important is the media expectations game, by which I mean the following: a month ago, Mike Huckabee would have been hailed for a strong second place finish in Iowa because he had no money and was kind of seen as the longest of long shots. Now if he doesn't win, I bet you and your colleagues will say he failed.
ROGER SIMON, CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT, POLITICO.COM: Well, the expectation game is the entire game. It's not just who wins now, but how much.
On the Democratic side, where it seems to be a three-way tie, if a candidate wins by one point, are we really going to call that candidate the winner? At dinner table conversations, whether it's over drinks or not, the talk now is that the winner has to win by four points or by six points, which is probably impossible.
What might happen here is just that we'll all go on to New Hampshire and play this game out once again.
KURTZ: Well, who exactly anointed the press to be the arbiter of what's a win, what's a good win, what's a strong win, what's a respectable second place finish, and what's a surprising third place showing? How did we get so much power in this process?
SIMON: It's what we do. We got it by default. No one else is going to do it. We're going to let the candidates choose who's the winner? Hey, it's what we exist for.
KURTZ: Jessica Yellin, if you and hundreds of your colleagues were not suffering through the cold temperatures in Iowa right now, would a small state caucus with a turn out of less than 10 percent, pretty weird rules about who can vote for the second place candidate at the neighbor's house, would it be such a political bombshell?
YELLIN: No. It's nuts. The amount of attention that Iowa gets is remarkable, because this state really is not representative demographically of America.
You know, two percent African-American, about three percent Hispanic. So the amount of attention we give it, especially considering how many people turn out to caucus, very few, is out of proportion.
But you know the beauty of Iowa is that you do get to see the candidates in these small settings where they're talking to rooms of just 30. And so sometimes you do get a real sense of who they are if you leave Des Moines.
One of the problems is sometimes people don't leave Des Moines. They sit here and report from here, and you've got to get out there and see what's going on. My producer likes to call it Beltway High School here in Des Moines, because you get that mentality if you stay in the city.
KURTZ: I had the impression it was a camp reunion when I was out there in Iowa. And it is great, the retail campaigning in Iowa and New Hampshire. It is fun to cover and it is real, but it's -- when the votes are counted and we decide who did well -- for example, Hillary Clinton, let's say she doesn't win Iowa. Let's say she gets edged out by 1,000 votes.
Is the press going to savage her as a loser?
MILBANK: The press will savage her no matter what, pretty much.
KURTZ: If she wins?
MILBANK: Well, obviously if she wins by any great margin -- the press with Hillary Clinton, it's a poisonous relationship. And I visited the various campaigns out there. It's a mutual sort of disregard. And they really have their knives out for her, there's no question about it out there. So...
KURTZ: And to what extent do you think that is affecting the coverage of Senator Clinton?
MILBANK: I think it unquestionably is. And I think Obama gets significantly better coverage than Hillary Clinton does, and given an equal performance he'll come out better for it.
KURTZ: Is this because journalists like Obama better than Hillary or...
MILBANK: It's more that they dislike Hillary Clinton. There is a long history there, her antagonism towards the press. It's returned in spades. And it is a venomous relationship that I see out there.
KURTZ: Interesting.
All right.
Jessica Yellin and Roger Simon out there in Iowa, thanks very much for joining us.
Dana Milbank, we'll see you a little later in the program..."
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http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14214
Power Line Blog on Obama's Record: "Flip-Flopping Vs. Growing In Office"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 23, 2007 - 11:59pm.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/18/AR2007121802184.html
For Clinton, A Matter of Fair Media
Senator's Camp Insists That the Press Holds Her To a Tougher Standard
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, December 19, 2007; Page C01
"Clinton's senior advisers have grown convinced that the media deck is stacked against them, that their candidate is drawing far harsher scrutiny than Barack Obama. And at least some journalists agree.
"She's just held to a different standard in every respect," says Mark Halperin, Time's editor at large. "The press rooted for Obama to go negative, and when he did he was applauded. When she does it, it's treated as this huge violation of propriety." While Clinton's mistakes deserve full coverage, Halperin says, "the press's flaws -- wild swings, accentuating the negative -- are magnified 50 times when it comes to her. It's not a level playing field."
Newsweek's Howard Fineman says Obama's coverage is the buzz of the presidential campaign. "While they don't say so publicly because it's risky to complain, a lot of operatives from other campaigns say he's getting a free ride, that people aren't tough enough on Obama," Fineman says. "There may be something to that. He's the new guy, an interesting guy, a pathbreaker and trendsetter perhaps..."
We all kind of knew this but it really hits home when you see them openly admitting it. The idiot MSM preferred Bush over Gore and look where that got us.
It's like you are whipped before you start.
better to know what you are up against and have the right kind of ammunition to try and effectively deal with it right now BEFORE any votes are cast as opposed to our not knowing about it, our not bringing it up to undecided people when asking for their votes, and then wondering what the problem was after the fact if things do not go our way because of it!
Hopefully having these quotes on file will help us to win over more votes in Iowa, New Hampshire, and in other primary states because to the undecided voters "it really hits home when you see them openly admitting it."
It should really hit home in my opinion to ANY honest voter who sincerely wants to vote for a candidate based on their merits and on their true record as opposed to how biased media pundits are trying to tell them how to vote!
like I always say...
Google Image just the words "Hillary Clinton" and see what you get:
http://images.google.com/images?q=Hillary+Clinton&gbv=2&ndsp=20&svnum=10&hl=en&start=0&sa=N
You won't find anyone else's image so manipulated to vilify them on Google. Oh wait, there is one other person who equals her in that department:
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=George+Bush&btnG=Search+Images
The current president
Maybe it's a sign? : )
Barack Obama has only 2 negative images on his first page (HRC is nearly all negative) and on his second page has no negatives, except on negative mocking photo of HRC on his 2nd pg.
It's a lot to battle. I always search images because anyone in the persona destruction business knows that's the deepest cut. The longest lasting.
Barack's Google Image. Clean and undoctored.
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=barack+obama&btnG=Search+Images
Entire first page seems to be all straight photos, no photoshopping tomfoolery!
http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=John+Edwards&btnG=Search+Images
Nobody gets it like Hillary. Not even W.
Back to Barack! He is soooo untouched in this arena. You have to go to around pg 10 to even get any messing with the image or hint of mockery and not until page 13- one photo has the smile widened.... What a difference. Visually he's had kid glove treatment for a presidential candidate. We'll see what happens.
which is exactly how Limbaugh and people on the other side will go after him IF he is the nominee!
Barack Obama has not shown that he has any understanding about this concept yet regarding how he will be negatively defined by the other side as a Presidential candidate which will definitely raise his negative numbers probably much higher than Hillary's are right now IF people do not think that he is competent enough to be President:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/13894
ANALYSIS: Statements from Obama that show his lack of electability if nominated!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on November 14, 2007 - 10:46am.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_103007/content/01125107.guest.html
Obama: All Buzz, No Substance; Hillary Stuck at 46-49% in Polls
October 30, 2007
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
RUSH: Anyway, I wrote back and I said, "Barack Obama," who, by the way, the latest quest for the Drive-Bys, "Will Obama take off the gloves? Will Obama try to gain ground by decking Mrs. Clinton tonight at the Democrat debate on PMSNBC?" They're all obsessed with it, every one of them, I don't care where you go, whatever network, "Will Obama take off the gloves?" Too late to take off the gloves. It doesn't appear that he's got the oomph to do it anyway because he's all tied up in having this new tone, this new way, this getting rid of all this negative partisanship, so to go negative and partisan would be a problem...

It really boils down to something very simple: all hype and no substance. If you look, Barack Obama's actually said a bunch of stupid things, like he would invade Pakistan, whether they asked us to or not, to go get Bin Laden. He'd meet with the world's tyrants in the Oval Office to find out why they hate us. Barack Obama is a classic illustration of something. The media have made Obama who he is. Remember all those incessant, never-ending puff pieces, TIME Magazine, Washington Post, New York Times, six, seven months ago? That was done to create an obstacle for Mrs. Clinton. She's the inevitable candidate. So they had to put somebody out there and then build 'em way up to make it look like Mrs. Clinton could win a fight, that she could overcome some obstacle rather than just sail through as the inevitable candidate. We were all sitting here, said, "What the hell is this about?" He's been in the Senate less than two years. He's written two memoirs. He's not old enough to have written one. What's the reason for this? This is pure media "puff piecery". It was pure hype, no substance whatsoever. All buzz.
There's a lesson here, folks. Barack Obama needs to be very careful, because when the media make you, they can destroy you. When you are the result of media buzz, and not substance, and not achievement, and not accomplishment, and yet the media is building you up to be something larger than you've achieved on your own, they can destroy you, too -- and he'd better be careful. It's the same thing with Jon Stewart and this Colbert guy. These guys have audiences of maybe a million people each and yet they have all this buzz, they're huge. If the media ever turns on either of these guys, they're finished. Why do you think Imus was able to be taken out? Imus was able to be taken out because for the last ten years he really didn't have any ratings to speak of. He was the product of media buzz because all of his media buddies were guests. There was a lot of bzz bzz bzz talk. When the media turned on Imus and his liberal buddies went for the tall grass, what was there to save him? It's like live by the sword, die by the sword. Live by the buzz, die by the buzz.
This is the risk that Obama is running into. It's why the media has not been able to destroy Clarence Thomas. It is why they have not been able to destroy a lot of people, like me, that they haven't made. All that having been said, though, not one vote has been cast here, and I remember this time in 2003 the Hillary Clinton of that period was Howard Dean. Remember that? John Kerry, the haughty John Kerry, was borrowing money from his wife to stay in the campaign. Now, the difference is, Dean didn't have a war room that destroys enemies and anyone who gets in their way like the Clintons do. There are some similarities. But the point is that not one vote's been cast yet...
END TRANSCRIPT
Read the Background Material...
• Los Angeles Times: Polls Don't Reflect Obama's Star Power
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obama29oct29,0,6297250.story?coll=la-home-center
• Townhall: Hillary Under 50% vs. Ron Paul
http://www.townhall.com/blog/g/d9b7986f-9b35-4922-8950-da4b33cd0d7f
• NRO: The Cast-Iron Low Ceiling and High Floor of Hillary Clinton - Jim Geraghty
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MmZkMjZkMmYxMmQ2ZDY1MzgxYjVlMTU3MmU5YmQyMGI=
• New York Times: The Democratic Target in Tuesday's Debate
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/the-democratic-target/
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A caller asked questions about Alan Keyes and Mike Huckabee (I'm pretty sure it was Huckabee). Hannity referred to Huckabee as "very impressive, just like all of our candidates are." About Keyes - the caller wanted to know about Keyes' qualifications. LOL. Hannity tried to come up with a list of what made Keyes qualified to be president (he referred to him as "Ambassador Keyes") and one of the items he listed was the "prominent race" for US Senate against Barack Obama in Illinois. Almost couldn't believe what I was hearing - running for office is apparently seen by the neocons as preparation for occupying the White House.
Proud to be an American.


and discussed anti-Hillary media bias two weeks ago on CNN Reliable Sources:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0712/16/rs.01.html
CNN RELIABLE SOURCES
Are Presidential Politics Getting Down and Dirty?; Baseball Rocked by Steroids Scandal
Aired December 16, 2007 - 10:00 ET
HOWARD KURTZ, HOST (voice over): "Are journalists engaging in what Mike Huckabee calls dumpster diving and are they hyping reports of Hillary's campaign being in panic mode?...
As polls showed Barack Obama pulling even with Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire, journalists who long portrayed her nomination as inevitable were describing a campaign in panic mode, with Bill possibly running to the rescue.
KURTZ: But it was not -- it was not just blurted out. And here's how I know that. Billy Shaheen said this to Alec MacGillis, who's a reporter at "Washington Post."
MacGillis called him back and said, "Am I clear now? Are you saying this on the record?" And he said yes.
So it was certainly premeditated. And look, the guy is the husband of former New Hampshire governor Jeanne Shaheen.
I'm wondering, Bill Press, whether this fits into a media narrative that Hillary Clinton runs a tough-as-nails operation that will do whatever it takes to win.
BILL PRESS, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: It does. It does very much so.
In fact, I think that's part of the problem here. I think what we're seeing is that the media is too -- and I hate to become a critic of the media, but watching the coverage, right -- and I'm not endorsing any candidate -- I think the media has become too poll- driven. And then they get on the narrative and everybody starts repeating the same narrative. And you just pointed it out.
The one narrative was Hillary is the inevitable front-runner. Well, we heard that for six months, we get tired of it. Now Hillary's dead. I mean, the polls -- the blogs were announcing this week the death, the end of the Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign.
AMY HOLMES, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: I would agree to that. I would agree with you, Bill, to a certain extent..."