... is absolutely spot on.

Hillary has won the Democratic votes overwhelmingly.

Another doofus conclusion was reached by Matt Stoller who wrote after Maryland that Obama had overtaken Hillary on the "womens" vote. ?????????

Well, duh. It was Maryland. The "women" that he was talking about were African Americans.

The demographics have never changed. BO wins the AAs, wine rack liberals and Republicans.

Hillary wins Democrats, the working class, non AA women and Latinos

The Republicans and Indies will vote for McCain in the GE and AA's are only 15% of the electorate.

But the Big Blogs rarely talk about this. It's all about how BO is attracting Reps and Indies.

Their short sightedness never fails to amaze me.

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

Yeah, the netroots "brain trust" strikes again. They are no different from the MSM in that they manipulate their audience for $$$. It's just that simple.

Hillary has won the Democratic votes overwhelmingly.

I'm not sure this is true. I can't find anyplace that combines the exit polls, but looking at them individually it appears whoever wins the state tends to win the Democratic votes as well, though there are some close states that meet your criteria. There are some states where Clinton wins Democrats by a few points and Obama wins independents by a much larger margin, but there are others, particularly in the south like Georgia, where Obama wins Democrats overwhelmingly.

It may be true that Clinton has more Democratic votes than Obama, I can't tell, but it certainly isn't overwhelming.

In every exit poll, she wins Dems hands down.

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

I just gave you a link go Georgia, where it isn't true, so you can't say "every exit poll". I also gave a few links where Clinton wins Dems, but not "overwhelmingly" nor "hands down". I'm trying to be honest, but clearly some here are not.

Here are the states Obama won the Democrats (I don't feel like linking them all, but you can click on the first link above to see the lists of states):

Alabama
Connecticut (close primary, it appears)
Delaware
DC
Georgia
Idaho (I assume with 80% of the vote, no exit poll)
Illinois
Iowa
Kansas (I assume, with 74% of the vote)
Louisiana
Main (I assume, with 59% of the vote)
Maryland
Minnesota (I assume, with 66% of the vote)
Nebraska (assumed, 68%)
North Dakota (assumed, 61%)
South Carolina
Utah
Virginia
Washington (assumed, 68%)

So, that is 11 states including DC where Obama won the Democratic vote according to exit polls, 7 where there was no exit poll but Obama won by large enough of a margin it is safe to assume and Connecticut, that doesn't as the question about party officiation so I'm guessing they were all Democrats.

That's 19 states (including DC) where Clinton did not win the Democrats, out of 33, leaving Clinton only 14 states where this might be true (16 if you count the states Clinton agreed to not count). While I'm sure none of these 19 actually count for some reason or another, can we at least put the "Clinton always wins the Dems" myth to rest?

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

Start here. This is the first link I gave in the initial post. The only reason I'm using MSNBC is the CNN one is hard to navigate, which each state on multiple pages you can't actually link to.

but from typing the info (from CNN Primary/Caucus Results page) it is obvious that in general Obama wins Black Dems and Clinton wins White and Latino Dems. At least in the States where it's broken down with that data.

Also, I don't think anyone with an awareness of the Republicans campaign to "Stop Hillary Now" can deny that in caucus States, they have had great success, with the exception of Iowa.

Iowa - Caucus
Obama 38% / Clinton 29% / Edwards 30%
Dem: Obama 32% / Clinton 31%
Indy: Obama 41% / Clinton 17%
Repub: Obama 44% / Clinton 10%

New Hampshire
Clinton 39% / Obama 37%
Dems: Clinton 45% / Obama 34%
Indy: Obama 41% / Clinton 31%

Michigan
Clinton 55% / Uncommitted 36%
Dems: Clinton 60% / Uncommitted 42%
Indys: Uncommitted 51% / Clinton 37%

Nevada - Caucus
Clinton 51% / Obama 45%
Dems: Clinton 51% / Obama 39%
Indys: Obama 47% / Clinton 33%

South Carolina
Obama 55% / Clinton 27%
Dems: Obama 57% / Clinton 28%
Indys: Obama 42% / Clinton 26%

Florida
Clinton 50% / Obama 33%
Dems: Clinton 52% / Obama 35%
Indys: Clinton 40% / Obama 30%

Alabama
Obama 56% / Clinton 42%
Dems: Obama 58% / Clinton 40%
Indys: Obama 48% / Clinton 48%
Repubs: Clinton 52% / Obama 46%
White Dems: Clinton 76% / Obama 21%
Black Dems: Obama 83% / Clinton 16%
White Indys: Clinton 64% / Obama 31%

Alaska - Caucus
Obama 75% / Clinton 25%

Arizona
Clinton 51% / Obama 42%
Dems: Clinton 52% / Obama 42%
Indys: Obama 47% / Clinton 37%
White Dems: Clinton 57% / Obama 37%
Black Dems: Obama 83% / Clinton 9%
Latino Dems: Clinton 60% / Obama 37%
White Indys: Obama 43% / Clinton 40%

Arkansas
Clinton 70% / Obama 26%
Dems: Clinton 74% / Obama 25%
Indys: Clinton 56% / Obama 32%
White Dems: Clinton 86% / Obama 12%
Black Dems: Obama 74% / Clinton 25%
White Indys: Clinton 59% / Obama 28%
Black Indys: N/A

California
Clinton 52% / Obama 43%
Dems: Clinton 57% / Obama 38%
Indys: Obama 58% / clinton 34%
White Dems: Clinton 49% / Obama 42%
Black Dems: Obama 74% / Clinton 21%
Latino Dems: Clinton 71% / 29%
White Indys: Obama 60% / Clinton 31%
Latino Indys: Obama 54% / 41%

Colorado - Caucus
Obama 67% / Clinton 32%

Connecticut
Obama 51% / Clinton 47%
Dems: Clinton 50% / Obama 48%
Indys: Obama 62% / Clinton 32%
White Dems: Clinton 53% / Obama 45%
Black Dems: Obama 83% / clinton 16%
Latino Dems: Clinton 54% / Obama 45%
White Indys: Obama 61% / Clinton 33%

Delaware
Obama 53% / Clinton 43%
Dems: Obama 54% / Clinton 42%
Indys: Obama 50% / Clinton 44%
White Dems: Clinton 56% / Obama 40%
Black Dems: Obama 86% / Clinton 9%
White Indys: Clinton 59% / Obama 33%

Georgia
Obama 67% / Clinton 31%
Dems: Obama 67% / Clinton 32%
Indys: Obama 63% / Clinton 33%
White Dems: Clinton 59% / Obama 38%
Black Dems: Obama 88% / 11%
White Indys: Clinton 50% / Obama 46%

Idaho - Caucus
Obama 79% / Clinton 17%

Illinois
Obama 65% / 33%
Dems: Obama 63% / Clinton 36%
Indys: Obama 72% / Clinton 22%
Repubs: Obama 60% / Clinton 36%
White Dems: Obama 53% / Clinton 46%
Black Dems: Obama 93% / Clinton 6%
Latino Dems: Clinton 51% / 48%
White Indys: Obama 68% / Clinton 28%
Repubs: Obama 60% / Clinton 37%

Kansas - Caucus
Obama 74% / Clinton 26%

Massachusetts
Clinton 56% / Obama 41%
Dems: Clinton 58% / Obama 41%
Indys: Clinton 54% / Obama 42%
White Dems: Clinton 60% / Obama 39%
Black Dems: Obama 63% / Clinton 31%
White Indys: Clinton 55% / Obama 41%

Minnesota - Caucus
Obama 66% / Clinton 32%

Missouri
Obama 49% / Clinton 48%
Dems: Clinton 50% / Obama 47%
Repubs: Obama 75% / Clinton 21%
Indys: Obama 67% / Clinton 30%
White Dems: Clinton 62% / Obama 35%
Black Dems: Obama 85% / Clinton 15%
White Indys: Obama 59% / Clinton 37%

New Jersey
Clinton 58% / Obama 49%
Dems: Clinton 56% / Obama 42%
Indys: Obama 49% / Clinton 43%
Repubs: Obama 49% / Clinton 43%
White Dems: Clinton 70% / Obama 28%
Black Dems: Obama 84% / Clinton 15%
Latino Dems: Clinton 75% / Obama 24%
White Indys: Clinton 51% / Obama 43%

New Mexico
Clinton 49% / Obama 48%
Dems: Clinton 51% / Obama 47%
Indys: Obama 65% / Clinton 29%
White Dems: Obama 53% / Clinton 45%
Latino Dems: Clinton 65% / Obama 33%
White Indys: Obama 62% / Clinton 33%

New York
Clinton 57% / Obama 40%
Dems: Clinton 60% / Obama 37%
Indys:Obama 55% / Clinton 40%
White Dems: Clinton 63% / Obama 34%
Black Dems: Obama 61% / Clinton 37%
Latino Dems: Clinton 75% / Obama 24%

North Dakota - Caucus
Obama 61% / Clinton 37%

Oklahoma
Clinton 55% / Obama 31%
Dems: Clinton 58% / Obama 30%
Indys: Clinton 41% / Obama 38%

Tennessee
Clinton 54% / Obama 41%
Dems: Clinton 57% / Obama 39%
Indys: Obama 47% / Clinton 43%
White Dems: Clinton 74% / Obama 20%
Black Dems: Obama 76% / Clinton 23%
White Indys: Clinton 49% / Obama 39%

Utah
Obama 57% / Clinton 39%
Dems: Obama 49% / Clinton 47%
Indys: Obama 68% / Clinton 26%

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.

in RED caucus States, the Stop Her Now campaign is having splended results.

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.

Independents are not allowed to vote in our Closed Primaries.
However they can do as they wish in the GE. Now I guess it is possible that they changed their registration beforehand. But they have to do so 6 to 8 weeks before the Primary.

You have way more patience than I. That was a lot of data to go through and type up!

I didn't compare state by state, but nothing here contradicts what I posted, does it?

By my count, the only states Obama won the Dem majority was IA +1, SC by +29, AL by +18, DL by +12, GA by +35, IL by +27 and UT +2.

Clinton won Dem majority in NH +11, MI +18, NV +12, FL +17, AZ +10, AR +49, CA +19, CT +2, MA +17, MO +2, NJ +14, NM +4, NY +23, OK +28, TN +18.

I didn't count the red caucus States where Obama cleaned Clinton's clock, as most of them didn't do a breakdown of voter registration.

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.

which of the following States that Obama won do you think Dems will pick up in the GE?

AL, AK, CO, GA, ID, KS, MO, MN, ND, SC, UT.

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.

Which states do you think Obama will flip to Dem in the GE?

(taps foot)

CO, KS, MO, MN

The Republicans have been backing themselves into a corner where they are nothing but a Southern party, at least in terms of presidential contests. I think most of the West is in play this year.

Of course, Clinton supporters keep acting like only California and New York matter, which any Dem should pick up. (And yes, that is an exaggeration.)

BTW, Obama won WI Dems tonight as well.

I hate to burst your bubble. But there is no way in dodge that Obama will carry those states in the GE. Especially KS. He won't carry my state (neighboring state) Oklahoma either. And I'm pretty sure he will lose in Red States like Texas as well. And you can forget about Michigan and Florida. Especially if those delegates don't get seated at the convention. Now how fast is it you can say Hello President McCain? The thing is now that the GOP is pretty sure that MCCain is their nominee choice they can come and play in all the remaining open primaries and caucuses.
Oklahoma is a Closed Primary State which Hillary won.
Now is for hoping Hillary takes Texas,Ohio, and PA.

Kansas was definitely the dark horse in that list. Colorado, though I can virtually guarantee, and I feel good about the others. Not sure why you are bringing up Texas or Oklahoma.

And as a lot of Obama supporters seem to have it in their heads that somehow all these big wins in these states is going to translate into a landslide for Obama. I bring up Oklahoma because I live here. Red State with a closed Primary. And the Texas Primary is the first week in March where Hillary has a chance of winning. Colorado is the only big maybe in the picture. Only because it was trending purple last time. I don't look for any Republicans to be changing their stripes soon.

In fact, on Super Tuesday, 295,952 more primary voters cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton than for Obama, yet somehow neither the Obama campaign, nor the media, was paying much attention to Clinton’s lead in the popular vote. If we include all the states that held primaries before Super Tuesday (NH, SC, MI, FL) Clinton was up by 468,024 votes—that was 2.51% of the total votes cast. But talking about that number was not a media priority either.

Only now that Obama has a miniscule lead of 128,736 in the number of votes cast (and that includes assigning all the “uncommitted” votes in Michigan to Obama) has the media focused on total votes cast. This lead represents less than 1% (0.62%) of votes cast in the primary elections held so far, yet it is trumpeted by the media endlessly.

But, since this is actually the Democratic primary, perhaps we should look at how Democrats have actually voted. Based on the available exit polling data, we find that Hillary Clinton has a commanding lead over Barack Obama in the number of votes – As of February 16, 2008, 391,992 more Democrats voted for Clinton than Obama.

That number does not include results from the District of Columbia, because of a lack of exit polling data. If we include DC, and assume that 100% of the voters were Democrats, Clinton still has a lead among Democrats of 333,981 votes.

But that number also doesn’t include Florida. Add in Florida’s Democrats, and Clinton’s lead advantage increases to 565,684. Nor does it include Michigan; and even if we assign all the Democrats who voted “uncommitted” to Obama, Clinton’s lead among Democratic voters grows to 678,276.

In terms of actual Democratic voters, the numbers from Super Tuesday are astonishing – and were, of course, ignored by the media. Out of over 12,100,000 votes cast by Democrats that day, Clinton beat Obama by nearly 7%, and just short of 837,000 votes. And if we include all the primaries that took place before Super Tuesday (NH, SC, MI, FL) the Clinton advantage among Democrats rises to 7.5%, and well over a million votes.

As Democrats, it is our votes that should be the determining factor in a close race. We’re the voters that the party can depend on, and ignoring the will of Democratic voters can lead to Democratic voters ignoring the will of the party.

*********************

Perhaps more to the point is the question of which states these votes are coming from. Are they from potential “swing states” – states where 5% or less of the electorate determined who won the state’s electoral votes in 2004? Are they from states that are outside of that 5% margin, but where its still close enough that a Democrat should make an effort anyway to ensure that the GOP candidate has to divert time and resources there, rather than concentrate on states where Democrats hold an edge? Or are they from states where one party has a lock, barring a complete landslide?

On the whole, Clinton has done far better than Obama in the swing states. In deep blue states, its been about even, but in deep red states, Obama has dominated. This raises the question of the extent to which primary voters in states where a Democratic nominee has little chance of winning should be able to determine the party’s nominee.

The Obama campaign, and now the media, are arguing that “super-delegates” aren’t supposed to determine who the nominee will be. But in a close race, who better to determine which candidate will be best for the nation, and the party, than the professional politicians and party activist who best understand how elections work.

And while legitimate arguments can be made on both sides of the “super-delegate” debate, there is simply no question that the system was not set up to allow the nominee to be chosen based in very large part on primary and caucus victories in states that Democrats aren’t truly competitive. The very idea that a 12 delegate advantage from a state like Idaho trumps an 11 delegate advantage from a swing state like New Jersey should be anathema to the party. Nor should racking up a combined 449,000 vote advantage in the “practically impossible to win” states of Georgia and Alabama be considered more important than a 416,000 vote advantage in a competitive/must-win state like California.

Yet this is exactly what the Obama campaign is arguing --- that the reality of the electorial college map should be irrelevant, and that only raw vote totals, “pledged” delegates, and the number of states won should matter to the super-delegates. And the media simply repeats this argument without question.

The candidate selection process is not, as Obama would have it, “majority rules”. During the primary season, its “supermajority rules” – in order to assume the mantle of nominee for the Democratic Party, a candidate has to get 60% of the pledged delegates awareded in primaries and caucuses. The Obama campaign has demonstrated an unsurpassed mastery of the rules governing the primary season – while the Clinton campaign was been concentrating its efforts in those states which will be the key to a victory in November, Obama’s people put considerable time and effort into racking up delegates in a slew of states that require a national landslide for a Democrat to win in November. As a result of this strategy, Obama now has a lead of 124 in pledged delegates from the states that have h eld their caucuses and primaries.

But having taken full advantage of the rules to acquire that lead, the Obama campaign is now demanding the 60% of primary/caucus delegates rule be ignored. At the same time, he insists that delegates from key states like Florida and Michigan, because those states didn’t “play by the rules”.

It's one thing to work the rules to your advantage. But Obama is now working the refs in an effort to have them forget that there are any rules at all.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/archives_view.php?id=27036

And here's the chart state by state

http://www.taylormarsh.com/CountWhoseVote_datatable.php

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

There's just one problem with that argument; neither the nomination nor the general election are decided by popular vote. The nomination is decided by delegates and the general election by electoral votes. I don't like the system but that's the way this country is run.

Barry
Are you safer today than you were seven years ago?^©

Democrats are the base. You can count on their vote in the GE

BUT.....you cannot count on the the Indies and Republicans that voted for Obama. Some may stick with him, some may go with McCain.

This is the main reason we NEED to seat the delegates from FL and MI. We cannot afford to have the Dems in either state stay home because they feel disenfranchised.

AND....the Superdelegates need to look at the Dem popular votes not the total popular votes....because these are the voters that will come out in November

So even though the GE is determined by delegates not popular vote, the delegates are not proportionalized (Not a word, I know). It is winner take all. So Dems coming out for the vote DOES matter.

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

I agree that you have to start from a solid base. And I'm sure that the super delegates will look at the popular vote in their home state (when doesn't a politician look at votes?). But its close to impossible tell how many Dems voted vs independents and cross overs. Exit polls aren't all that reliable.

I also agree that some solution has to be worked out to seat Florida and Michigan, but not necessarily based on the votes that were cast.  To different degrees both states had flawed primaries.

Barry
Are you safer today than you were seven years ago?^©

a partisan site for Hillary, the way that DKos and many other sites are partisan for Sen. Obama.

I'm sure there are a variety of ways one can parse the data to show that Clinton should be winning.

The argument over superdelegates has nothing to do with the rules. The supers should vote for who they think is best for the Democratic party. But if someone has a clear lead in the elected delegates and popular vote the supers would be insane to reverse that. It is bad for the party to reject the will of the people wholesale. When the same guy also leads polls among Democrats and against McCain, it is doubly insane.

You're not seriously going to spend your time here insinuating Maddy is a liar, are you? Bad, bad idea.

However, it was good for a touch of comic relief, especially the bit about how you're the only one around here even trying to be honest, as you surreptitiously push all about the O! over & over again. Since you are so into "clicking" why not start by "clicking" here:

9/15 General Wesley K. Clark Endorses Clinton

General Wesley K. Clark Endorses Clinton

The Clinton Campaign today announced the endorsement of Ret. General Wesley K. Clark.

"The world has reached a critical point, and we need a leader in the White House with the courage, intelligence and humility to navigate through many troubling challenges to our security at home and abroad. I believe Senator Clinton is that leader, and I whole-heartedly endorse her for President of the United States," General Clark said. "Our economic and national security has become more complicated than ever before, and we deserve a leader who draws on wisdom, compassion, intelligence and moral courage - in short, we need Hillary Clinton. She is tough but fair, a rock-solid leader equal to the many weighty challenges ahead of us."

After 34 years of service in the United States Army, General Clark rose to the rank of four-star general as NATO's Supreme Allied Commander, Europe. General Clark commanded Operation Allied Force, which saved 1.5 million Albanians from ethnic cleansing in Kosovo, and he was responsible for the peacekeeping operation in Bosnia.

General Clark's awards and honors include the Presidential Medal of Freedom, The State Department Distinguished Service Award; the US Department of Defense Distinguished Service Medal;(five awards), The US Army Distinguished Service Medal(two awards), The Silver Star, the Bronze Star (two awards), the Purple Heart, and Honorary Knighthoods from the British and Dutch governments.

After his retirement in 2000, General Clark became an investment banker, author, commentator, and businessman. He is the author of the best selling books Waging Modern War: Bosnia, Kosovo and the Future of Combat and Winning Modern War: Iraq, Terrorism and the American Empire.

"I am deeply admiring of General Clark’s record of leadership for our country and his appreciation of the complexity of the world in which we live today," Clinton said. "I’m looking forward to his involvement in my campaign and working together to bring the change this country needs."

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Seriously - O! may have won the day in Georgia but remember, Georgia is bloody bloody red, home to the original swiftboat campaign against Max Cleland, stomping grounds of the likes of "Democrat" Zell Miller. 

I think I also just read that it has a 29% African American population, so for those people who embrace identity politics, a handicapper might advantage O! substantially going in. ? 

Actually Georgia's result is a bit weird, if you ask me- for example, Clinton seems to have raised considerably more money than O! there according to CNN

Top Candidates: Georgia $ Raised
Hillary Rodham Clinton$452,780 Barack Obama$150,435 John Edwards$55,852
Also, if you "click" as you say on some search strings such as:

Georgia electronic voting 

Georgia electronic voting 2008

Georgia black box voting 

you may find those results of interest.   

And then there are those little things like- MI & FL.  

I think that that DNC should prohibit open primaries and caucuses. They should enforce a rule that in order to vote in a Democratic primary or caucus, people must have been registered as Democrats for at least 30 days. No more election-day switching.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!

The DNC is part of the problem.

I truly don't know what the answer is. Maybe an insurgence of the rank and file?

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

I'm not sure there's anything a party can do about it, if the legislature wants an open primary.

...always manage to find new ways to lose.

It drives me nuts.

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

deluded or going along with it for this to be happening and nefarious? msinla has been figuring this out for awhile now. Newt Gingrich once admitted to Bill Clinton that the Republicans can't beat him / them without cheating.

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He's proud of the fact that Republicans are voting for him. He brags about it.
So, either he's going along with this because he just wants to win the nomination, or he believes that they will vote for him in November. If he believes it, then he's deluded. I know it's very difficult to disbelieve something that's flattering to oneself, but he's not doing himself or the country any favors if he wins the nomination this way. He needs to address it and the Democratic Party needs to look into it.

...deluded.

His whole campaign is about making nice with the Republicans. I think he believes his awesomeness will keep them with him in November.

Talk about delusional......especially running against McCain.

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

He's sufficiently self-absorbed to believe he's the chosen one. He really believes that Republicans in these numbers will cross over to elect him, one of the most liberal Senators.

This makes me wonder about something. Our county recently had major voter snafus on primary day. Mega turnout (Republican leaning county), ran out of ballots, long lines, people leaving without voting or voting on scraps of paper. The Republican leaning registrar made a public comment that much of this turnout for BO was "crossover voting". So many were upset that he would make such a political statement and questioned how he would know such a thing. Hmmm. Could this have been a strategy of local GOP committees? Or were we the recipient of Obamamania?

"a strategy of local GOP committees"

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

I work in the entertainment business. I know a little bit about what fame does to people, especially sudden fame. When everyone is gushing about you, it's very difficult not to believe it. It's very difficult to believe that there's anything you can't do. It's very difficult to believe that they may not mean it, and you never think that they'll turn on you.
But they always turn on you.
As soon as Obama secures the nomination, the media's going to turn on him and they'll take the fair-weather supporters with him. The Republican 'supporters' are going to be gone, and the Republicans will go on the attack. The fact that people don't know much about him will just make it easier for them to believe the attacks.
Now, Obama might or might not be a decent man - I don't know - but he's not an extraordinary man like he's being made out to be. I really don't think he could survive all that.
I hope that he's just deluded. If he is, then he can wake up. If he isn't, then he's in on it.

on how to beat Obama. The big bullet point was his lack of experience. I'm sure there will be many more messages coming through from the 527s to swiftboat him.

"thwarted terra attack" away from being swiftboated into Muslim - Madrassa Hell, and it doesn't even matter that most of it won't be true. Since when has that stopped a pounding GOP swifting campaign? It only need be just "truthy" enough to make it stick. And then it's repeat repeat repeat repeat-- voila! It moves from truthy to true! IF (big if) people are suddenly shocked anew with something... they can revert to reptilian brain islamophobia in a New York minute. NOTE: Another video or audio from the great hi-tech Bin Laden Cave Production House does not count-- They have totally lost their punch in the shock and awe department. It would have to a foiled plan or ..... don't want to even speculate.

Throw longtime buddy Rezko into the mix and his Iraqi and muslim ties that are seeded internationally --and you've got a Karl Rove Perfect Storm to play Swifty with. Even if his name was Senator John Doe.

And as usual... I really hope I am wrong about all of this. :/ And I know it would be slimy, dirty tricky and below the belt to pull these kinds of tactics out. Just like our republican friends have shown they like to campaign.

PS: Were I an Obama supporter- that kind of smear campaign wouldn't affect me one way or the other... but that's just me.

I think that the GOP (or their Swiftboat surrogates) is really going to go after the druggie/crackhead angle and by the time they're done, the public will think he hung out with Willie Horton.

we all have different theories on what they'll do. My husband and I have a bet. You see mine there- Hubby has another one...

I will win $100 if mine is correct.

But I will also lose my country....

Not a great trade off.

If things went the way he's hoping, we could lose the planet.

Let's see if I make it through the day first! :)

Mercury goes direct tomorrow. Last day of retro often the worst. Be careful out there! Later...

are designed to impact those who are undecided and the base. People who might have voted are turned off and decide not to vote for that candidate and the base gets motivated to turn out for McCain, when they don't really like him.

I have been warning Obama supporters I know here all about what is going on. And they refuse to believe it. They think if there is anything corrupt going on about Obama now that our good media will report it. I reminded them about who owns our media. And what they did to John Kerry. I told them what would happen if Obama is our nominee. What happened to John Kerry will look like childs play. It's not being reported now (about Rezco or any other thing that maybe in hiding) because the time isn't right. They wait until he is our nominee and the sharp knives will come out.
I'm glad my state already voted though. And had the good sense to go for Hillary. I think I may go into hiding if Obama is our nominee. And you all can wake me up when its over.
But for now I'm sticking it out with the other Clarkies and just hanging unto my own hope that Hillary is our nominee.

who said he voted for BO (open primary)because he wanted to watch how much fun McCain would have destroying him in the GE. Un-F-ing believable!!! And the Dems don't seem to "get" this. It honestly blows my mind. No wonder we have a moron in the WH. It's all just a silly game......

In fact Chris Bowers and Josh Marshal have pieces up pushing the superdelegates to go with the "popular vote".

Sounds very democratic and fair doesn't it?

The thing is, the "popular vote" includes votes from thousands and thousands of Republicans who gamed the system, just like your friend.

I agree with eriposte ......

However, the kinds of comments I've quoted above are the proverbial last straw for me. After all, as Bush-AWOL researcher Paul Lukasiak has shown, Sen. Clinton actually leads the popular vote cast by Democrats. She is trailing the overall popular vote right now because of independents and Republicans who cast votes for Sen. Obama in the Democratic primary - not because Sen. Obama won the popular vote among Democrats (because he did not). So, for Bowers, Marshall or others to claim that Democratic superdelegates or DNC Chairman Howard Dean or the Democratic candidate (Clinton) who has the support of the majority of Democrats who have voted so far are the ones splitting the Democratic party by insisting that superdelegates follow the rules set by the Democratic party - is beyond nonsensical. It borders on sheer arrogance. If anything, posts like theirs only give me reasons to question my continued association with segments of the so-called "progressive" movement, especially after having observed how a decent, fellow Democrat (Clinton), who is largely similar to their favored candidate (Obama), has been treated by this movement over the past couple of months.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011988.php

"The Right always knows who its enemy is" Lance Mannion

No one wants to believe this -- at least the "progressive/liberal" Dems who support Obama don't -- and we can quote, link and scream 'til we're blue in the face, but the only way they're going to believe it is IF O wins the nomination, and gets thrashed in the GE. When all those Republics and Indys don't turn up in Utah, North Dakota, etc. to cast their vote for a Democrat, THEN maybe they'll figure it out. Maybe. Although if there's a way to blame it on Clinton, they'll find it.

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.

the less and less he seems.

NOBAMA! There's no there there.

and that's why they are crossing over to vote. I don't think he acknowledges the ABC reasons for voting on the part of these Republicans.

yes:

Is Obama really willing to sacrifice the party for his own self-aggrandizement?

Yes. Eyes bigger than stomach, see: Real Estate Deals

She is becoming annoying.

The last thing we need is to have that Senate seat revert. It must be tempting to be the Great Centrist Voice for a strong candidate, but she needs to keep her hands on the steering wheel.

And I approve this message.

plan if he wins? McCain?

since 2000 I have supported the Dem underdog ( Biden- Edwards- Obama couldn't be happier that I supported Biden ); as the democracy is being demised it seems good way to support what little is left of democracy;

I was as surprised as anyone that Obama pulled ahead; under my theory depending on what may happen in early March may be support Hillary;

synthetic environment Art helps you read between the lies - free media

I voted for him once. I won't make that mistake again.

Sorry for the length. Here's the two records for the two remaining Dem POTUS candidates. Minus the 'headline' nomenclature.

I've included updates on bills that have been 'agreed to' by vote, and passed through the senate.

Note: "Purpose will be available..." titles are placeholders.  Also,  I didn't bother noting the passage of 'fluff' bills, such as a memorial month, et al.

I encourage everyone to dig deeper into the actual record.  www.thomas.gov 

Senator Hillary Clinton - NY

1. S.CON.RES.10 : A concurrent resolution honoring and praising the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People on the occasion of its 98th anniversary.
2. S.CON.RES.26 : A concurrent resolution recognizing the 75th anniversary of the Military Order of the Purple Heart and commending recipients of the Purple Heart for their courageous demonstrations of gallantry and heroism on behalf of the United States.
3. S.CON.RES.27 : A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of "National Purple Heart Recognition Day".
4. S.CON.RES.63 : A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of the Congress regarding the need for additional research into the chronic neurological condition hydrocephalus, and for other purposes.
5. S.RES.20 : A resolution recognizing the uncommon valor of Wesley Autry of New York, New York.
6. S.RES.21 : A resolution recognizing the uncommon valor of Wesley Autrey of New York, New York.
7. S.RES.92 : A resolution calling for the immediate and unconditional release of soldiers of Israel held captive by Hamas and Hezbollah.
*Latest Major Action: 4/12/2007 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Resolution agreed to in Senate without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.
8. S.RES.141 : A resolution urging all member countries of the International Commission of the International Tracing Service who have yet to ratify the May 2006 amendments to the 1955 Bonn Accords to expedite the ratification process to allow for open access to the Holocaust archives located at Bad Arolsen, Germany.
*Latest Major Action: 5/1/2007 Passed/agreed to in Senate. Status: Resolution agreed to in Senate without amendment and with a preamble by Unanimous Consent.
9. S.RES.176 : A resolution recognizing April 30, 2007, as "National Healthy Schools Day".
10. S.RES.222 : A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month.
11. S.RES.404 : A resolution congratulating all member states of the International Commission for the International Tracing Service (ITS) on ratifying the May 2006 protocol granting open access to a vast archives on the Holocaust and other World War II materials, located at Bad Arolsen, Germany.
12. S.120 : A bill to establish a grant program for individuals still suffering health effects as a result of the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York City and at the Pentagon.
13. S.201 : A bill to establish a grant program for individuals still suffering health effects as a result of the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York City and at the Pentagon.
14. S.211 : A bill to facilitate nationwide availability of 2-1-1 telephone service for information and referral on human services. volunteer services, and for other purposes.
15. S.301 : A bill to provide higher education assistance for nontraditional students, and for other purposes.
16. S.413 : A bill to amend the Bank Holding Company Act of 1956 and the Revised Statutes of the United States to prohibit financial holding companies and national banks from engaging, directly or indirectly, in real estate brokerage or real estate management activities, and for other purposes.
17. S.511 : A bill to provide student borrowers with basic rights, including the right to timely information about their loans and the right to make fair and reasonable loan payments, and for other purposes.
18. S.649 : A bill to require the Nuclear Regulatory Commission to conduct an independent safety assessment of the Indian Point Nuclear Power Plant.
19. S.661 : A bill to establish kinship navigator programs, to establish guardianship assistance payments for children, and for other purposes.
20. S.670 : A bill to set forth limitations on the United States military presence in Iraq and on United States aid to Iraq for security and reconstruction, and for other purposes.
21. S.694 : A bill to direct the Secretary of Transportation to issue regulations to reduce the incidence of child injury and death occurring inside or outside of light motor vehicles, and for other purposes.
22. S.701 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to impose a temporary oil profit fee and to use the proceeds of the fee collected to provide a Strategic Energy Fund and expand certain energy tax incentives, and for other purposes.
23. S.748 : A bill to establish the African Burial Ground International Memorial Museum and Educational Center in New York, New York, and for other purposes.
24. S.757 : A bill to create a national set of effective voluntary national expectations for mathematics and science education in kindergarten through grade 12, and for other purposes.
25. S.764 : A bill to amend title XIX and XXI of the Social Security Act to permit States the option of coverage of legal immigrants under the Medicaid Program and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
26. S.766 : A bill to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide more effective remedies of victims of discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex, and for other purposes.
27. S.776 : A bill to amend the Energy Employees Occupational Illness Compensation Program Act of 2000 to include certain former nuclear weapons program workers in the Special Exposure Cohort under the energy employees occupational illness compensation program.
28. S.804 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 to improve the administration of elections for Federal office, and for other purposes.
29. S.820 : A bill to establish demonstration projects to provide at-home infant care benefits.
30. S.837 : A bill to develop a generation of school leaders who are committed to, and effective in, increasing student achievement and to ensure that all low-income, under-performing schools are led by effective school leaders who are well-prepared to foster student success.
31. S.895 : A bill to amend titles XIX and XXI of the Social Security Act to ensure that every child in the United States has access to affordable, quality health insurance coverage, and for other purposes.
32. S.907 : A bill to establish an Advisory Committee on Gestational Diabetes, to provide grants to better understand and reduce gestational diabetes, and for other purposes.
33. S.937 : A bill to improve support and services for individuals with autism and their families.
34. S.947 : A bill to modernize the Federal Housing Administration to meet the housing needs of the American people.
35. S.959 : A bill to award a grant to enable Teach for America, Inc., to implement and expand its teaching program.
36. S.960 : A bill to establish the United States Public Service Academy.
37. S.982 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for integration of mental health services and mental health treatment outreach teams, and for other purposes.
38. S.993 : A bill to improve pediatric research.
39. S.1031 : A bill to amend the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002 to provide coordination and direction for commodity programs, and to ensure the distribution of fresh fruits and vegetables to schools and service institutions in the United States.
40. S.1032 : A bill to amend the Rural Electrification Act of 1936 to establish an Office of Rural Broadband Initiatives in the Department of Agriculture, and for other purposes.
41. S.1034 : A bill to create investment opportunities for rural families and access to credit for rural entrepreneurs and microenterprises, to support rural regional investment, and for other purposes.
42. S.1059 : A bill to amend the Energy Conservation and Production Act to improve Federal building energy efficiency standards, and for other purposes.
43. S.1063 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to improve certain death and survivor benefits with respect to members of the Armed Forces, and for other purposes.
44. S.1064 : A bill to provide for the improvement of the physical evaluation processes applicable to members of the Armed Forces, and for other purposes.
45. S.1065 : A bill to improve the diagnosis and treatment of traumatic brain injury in members and former members of the Armed Forces, to review and expand telehealth and telemental health programs of the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs, and for other purposes.
46. S.1075 : A bill to amend title XIX of the Social Security Act to expand access to contraceptive services for women and men under the Medicaid program, help low income women and couples prevent unintended pregnancies and reduce abortion, and for other purposes.
47. S.1078 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide incentives for employer-provided employee housing assistance, and for other purposes.
48. S.1097 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to provide for the award of a military service medal to members of the Armed Forces who served honorably during the Cold War era.
49. S.1148 : A bill to establish the Champlain Quadricentennial Commemoration Commission and the Hudson-Fulton 400th Commemoration Commission, and for other purposes.
50. S.1240 : A bill to provide for the provision by hospitals receiving Federal funds through the Medicare program or Medicaid program of emergency contraceptives to women who are survivors of sexual assault.
51. S.1259 : A bill to amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to provide assistance for developing countries to promote quality basic education and to establish the achievement of universal basic education in all developing countries as an objective of United States foreign assistance policy, and for other purposes.
52. S.1343 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to prevention and treatment of diabetes, and for other purposes.
53. S.1363 : A bill to improve health care for severely injured members and former members of the Armed Forces, and for other purposes.
54. S.1390 : A bill to provide for the issuance of a "forever stamp" to honor the sacrifices of the brave men and women of the armed forces who have been awarded the Purple Heart.
55. S.1409 : A bill to provide and enhance education, housing, and entrepreneur assistance for veterans who serve in the Armed Forces after September 11, 2001, and for other purposes.
56. S.1427 : A bill to establish the Federal Emergency Management Agency as an independent agency, and for other purposes.
57. S.1444 : A bill to provide for free mailing privileges for personal correspondence and parcels sent to members of the Armed Forces serving on active duty in Iraq or Afghanistan.
58. S.1452 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a national center for public mental health emergency preparedness, and for other purposes.
59. S.1480 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to provide for the payment of a monthly stipend to the surviving parents (known as "Gold Star parents") of members of the Armed Forces who die during a period of war.
60. S.1485 : A bill to impose tariff-rate quotas on certain casein and milk protein concentrates.
61. S.1500 : A bill to support democracy and human rights in Zimbabwe, and for other purposes.
62. S.1542 : A bill to establish State infrastructure banks for education, and for other purposes.
63. S.1604 : A bill to increase the number of well-educated nurses, and for other purposes.
64. S.1705 : A bill to prevent nuclear terrorism, and for other purposes.
65. S.1712 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to improve newborn screening activities, and for other purposes.
66. S.1763 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to provide for the award of a military service medal to members of the Armed Forces who served honorably during the Cold War era.
67. S.1787 : A bill to conduct 1 or more higher education and career readiness demonstration projects for rural, low-income students.
68. S.1793 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide a tax credit for property owners who remove lead-based paint hazards.
69. S.1800 : A bill to amend title 10, United States Code, to require emergency contraception to be available at all military health care treatment facilities.
70. S.1801 : A bill to require a study on the relocation of the Sector Buffalo facilities of the Coast Guard, and for other purposes.
71. S.1812 : A bill to amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to strengthen mentoring programs, and for other purposes.
72. S.1816 : A bill to authorize the Secretary of the Interior to establish a commemorative trail in connection with the Women's Rights National Historical Park to link properties that are historically and thematically associated with the struggle for women's suffrage, and for other purposes.
73. S.1821 : A bill to prohibit the closure or relocation of any county, local, or field office of the Farm Service Agency or Natural Resources Conservation Service or any office related to the rural development mission of the Department of Agriculture until at least 1 year after the enactment of an Act to provide for the continuation of agricultural programs after fiscal year 2007.
74. S.1823 : A bill to set the United States on track to ensure children are ready to learn when they begin kindergarten.
75. S.1840 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide recruitment and retention incentives for volunteer emergency service workers.
76. S.1888 : A bill to amend title 4, United States Code, to add National Korean War Veterans Armistice Day to the list of days on which the flag should especially be displayed.
77. S.1898 : A bill to amend the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 to expand family and medical leave for spouses, sons, daughters, and parents of servicemembers with combat-related injuries.
78. S.1911 : A bill to amend the Safe Drinking Water Act to protect the health of susceptible populations, including pregnant women, infants, and children, by requiring a health advisory, drinking water standard, and reference concentration for trichloroethylene vapor intrusion, and for other purposes.
79. S.1950 : A bill to require a report on contingency planning for the redeployment of United States forces from Iraq.
80. S.1967 : A bill to provide administrative ease and incentives for increased saving by Americans, and for other purposes.
81. S.2005 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to provide education on the health consequences of exposure to secondhand smoke, and for other purposes.
82. S.2054 : A bill to authorize the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development to make grants to assist cities with a vacant housing problem, and for other purposes.
83. S.2059 : A bill to amend the Family and Medical Leave Act of 1993 to clarify the eligibility requirements with respect to airline flight crews.
84. S.2082 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a Coordinated Environmental Public Health Network, and for other purposes.
85. S.2114 : A bill to amend the Truth in Lending Act, to provide for enhanced disclosures to consumers and enhanced regulation of mortgage brokers, and for other purposes.
86. S.2175 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with regard to research on asthma, and for other purposes.
87. S.2187 : A bill to amend the Child Care and Development Block Grant Act of 1990 to provide for child care workforce development initiatives, and for other purposes.
88. S.2222 : A bill to require the International Trade Commission to report on the specific impact of each free trade agreement in force with respect to the United States on a sector-by-sector basis, and for other purposes.
89. S.2244 : A bill to require the Secretary of Health and Human Services to carry out demonstration projects and outreach programs for the identification and abatement of lead hazards, to establish the Joint Task Force on Lead-Based Hazards and the Task Force on Children's Environmental Health and Safety, to strengthen the authority of the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, and for other purposes.
90. S.2310 : A bill to establish a National Catastrophic Risks Consortium and a National Homeowners' Insurance Stabilization Program, and for other purposes.
91. S.2341 : A bill to provide Individual Development Accounts to support foster youths who are transitioning from the foster care system.
92. S.2395 : A bill to establish an adoption process improvement pilot program.
93. S.2415 : A bill to require the President and the Office of the Global AIDS Coordinator to establish a comprehensive and integrated HIV prevention strategy to address the vulnerabilities of women and girls in countries for which the United States provides assistance to combat HIV/AIDS, and for other purposes.
94. S.2426 : A bill to provide for congressional oversight of United States agreements with the Government of Iraq.
95. S.2456 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to improve and secure an adequate supply of influenza vaccine.
96. S.2476 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to improve immunization rates by increasing the supply of vaccines.
97. S.2480 : A bill to require the Secretary of Health and Human Services to publicly disclose the identity of long-term care facilities listed under the Special Focus Facility Program of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services.
98. S.2514 : A bill to amend the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 to provide for an increase in the Federal minimum wage and to ensure that increases in the Federal minimum wage keep pace with any pay adjustments for Members of Congress.
99. S.2515 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a comprehensive national system for skilled construction workers to assist first responders in disasters.
101. S.2535 : A bill to revise the boundary of the Martin Van Buren National Historic Site, and for other purposes.
102. S.2549 : A bill to require the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency to establish an Interagency Working Group on Environmental Justice to provide guidance to Federal agencies on the development of criteria for identifying disproportionately high and adverse human health or environmental effects on minority populations and low-income populations, and for other purposes.
103. S.2574 : A bill to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to allow the use of qualified mortgage revenue bonds for refinancing mortgages and to provide a temporary increase in the volume cap for such bonds.
104. S.2584 : A bill to establish a program to evaluate HIV/AIDS programs in order to improve accountability, increase transparency, and ensure the delivery of evidence-based services.
105. S.AMDT.231 to S.470 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
106. S.AMDT.278 to S.4 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
107. S.AMDT.409 to S.4 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
108. S.AMDT.410 to S.4 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
109. S.AMDT.666 to H.R.1591 To link award fees under Department of Homeland Security contracts to successful acquisition outcomes under such contracts.
*Latest Major Action: 3/28/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 666 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
110. S.AMDT.667 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
111. S.AMDT.668 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
112. S.AMDT.759 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
113. S.AMDT.768 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
114. S.AMDT.1021 to S.1082 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
115. S.AMDT.1040 to S.1082 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
116. S.AMDT.1068 to H.R.1495 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
117. S.AMDT.1183 to S.1348 To reclassify the spouses and minor children of lawful permanent residents as immediate relatives.
118. S.AMDT.1469 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
119. S.AMDT.1647 to H.R.6 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
120. S.AMDT.1979 to S.1639 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
121. S.AMDT.2041 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
122. S.AMDT.2046 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
123. S.AMDT.2047 to H.R.1585 To specify additional individuals eligible to transportation for survivors of deceased members of the Armed Forces to attend their burial ceremonies.
*Latest Major Action: 9/17/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2047 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
124. S.AMDT.2108 to H.R.1585 To require a report on the planning and implementation of the policy of the United States toward Darfur.
Latest Major Action: 9/17/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2108 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
125. S.AMDT.2109 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
126. S.AMDT.2136 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
127. S.AMDT.2163 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
128. S.AMDT.2222 to H.R.1585 To prevent nuclear terrorism, and for other purposes.
Latest Major Action: 9/17/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2222 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
129. S.AMDT.2269 to S.CON.RES.27 Of a perfecting nature.
*Latest Major Action: 7/16/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2269 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
130. S.AMDT.2390 to H.R.2638 To require that all contracts of the Department of Homeland Security that provide award fees link such fees to successful acquisition outcomes.
*Latest Major Action: 7/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2390 as modified agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
131. S.AMDT.2398 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
132. S.AMDT.2438 to H.R.2638 To require the Comptroller General to conduct a study on shared border management.
*Latest Major Action: 7/26/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2438 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
133. S.AMDT.2441 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
134. S.AMDT.2472 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
135. S.AMDT.2474 to H.R.2638 To ensure that the Federal Protective Service has adequate personnel.
*Latest Major Action: 7/26/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2474 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
136. S.AMDT.2487 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
137. S.AMDT.2556 to H.R.976 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
138. S.AMDT.2632 to H.R.976 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
139. S.AMDT.2770 to H.R.2764 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
140. S.AMDT.2802 to H.R.3074 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
141. S.AMDT.2823 to H.R.3074 To require a report on plans to alleviate congestion and flight delays in the New York/New Jersey/Philadelphia Airspace.
*Latest Major Action: 9/11/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2823 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
142. S.AMDT.2917 to H.R.1585 To extend and enhance the authority for temporary lodging expenses for members of the Armed Forces in areas subject to a major disaster declaration or for installations experiencing a sudden increase in personnel levels.
*Latest Major Action: 9/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2917 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
143. S.AMDT.2944 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
144. S.AMDT.3025 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
145. S.AMDT.3168 to H.R.3222 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
146. S.AMDT.3197 to H.R.3222 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
147. S.AMDT.3266 to H.R.3093 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
148. S.AMDT.3302 to H.R.3093 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
149. S.AMDT.3735 to H.R.2419 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
150. S.AMDT.3829 to H.R.2419 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.

 

Senator Barack Obama - IL

1. S.CON.RES.5 : A concurrent resolution honoring the life of Percy Lavon Julian
2. S.CON.RES.25 : A concurrent resolution condemning the recent violent actions of the Government of Zimbabwe against peaceful opposition party activists and members of civil society.
3. S.CON.RES.44 : A concurrent resolution expressing the sense of Congress that a commemorative postage stamp should be issued honoring Rosa Louise McCauley Parks.
4. S.CON.RES.46 : A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Sickle Cell Disease Awareness Month.
5. S.RES.133 : A resolution celebrating the life of Bishop Gilbert Earl Patterson.
6. S.RES.268 : A resolution designating July 12, 2007, as "National Summer Learning Day".
7. S.RES.383 : A resolution honoring and recognizing the achievements of Carl Stokes, the first African-American mayor of a major American city, in the 40th year since his election as Mayor of Cleveland, Ohio.
8. S.J.RES.23 : A joint resolution clarifying that the use of force against Iran is not authorized by the Authorization for the Use of Military Force Against Iraq, any resolution previously adopted, or any other provision of law.
9. S.114 : A bill to authorize resources for a grant program for local educational agencies to create innovation districts.
10. S.115 : A bill to suspend royalty relief, to repeal certain provisions of the Energy Policy Act of 2005, and to amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to repeal certain tax incentives for the oil and gas industry.
11. S.116 : A bill to authorize resources to provide students with opportunities for summer learning through summer learning grants.
12. S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.
13. S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.
14. S.433 : A bill to state United States policy for Iraq, and for other purposes.
15. S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.
16. S.674 : A bill to require accountability and enhanced congressional oversight for personnel performing private security functions under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
17. S.692 : A bill to amend title 38, United States Code, to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative to report on health care quality in Veterans Affairs hospitals.
18. S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.
19. S.737 : A bill to amend the Help America Vote Act of 2002 in order to measure, compare, and improve the quality of voter access to polls and voter services in the administration of Federal elections in the States.
20. S.767 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.
21. S.768 : A bill to increase fuel economy standards for automobiles and for other purposes.
22. S.795 : A bill to assist aliens who have been lawfully admitted in becoming citizens of the United States, and for other purposes.
23. S.823 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act with respect to facilitating the development of microbicides for preventing transmission of HIV/AIDS and other diseases, and for other purposes.
24. S.906 : A bill to prohibit the sale, distribution, transfer, and export of elemental mercury, and for other purposes.
25. S.976 : A bill to secure the promise of personalized medicine for all Americans by expanding and accelerating genomics research and initiatives to improve the accuracy of disease diagnosis, increase the safety of drugs, and identify novel treatments.
26. S.1067 : A bill to require Federal agencies to support health impact assessments and take other actions to improve health and the environmental quality of communities, and for other purposes.
27. S.1068 : A bill to promote healthy communities.
28. S.1084 : A bill to provide housing assistance for very low-income veterans.
29. S.1151 : A bill to provide incentives to the auto industry to accelerate efforts to develop more energy-efficient vehicles to lessen dependence on oil.
30. S.1181 : A bill to amend the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 to provide shareholders with an advisory vote on executive compensation.
31. S.1222 : A bill to stop mortgage transactions which operate to promote fraud, risk, abuse, and under-development, and for other purposes.
32. S.1271 : A bill to provide for a comprehensive national research effort on the physical and mental health and other readjustment needs of the members of the Armed Forces and veterans who served in Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom and their families.
33. S.1306 : A bill to direct the Consumer Product Safety Commission to classify certain children's products containing lead to be banned hazardous substances.
34. S.1324 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from transportation fuel sold in the United States.
35. S.1389 : A bill to authorize the National Science Foundation to establish a Climate Change Education Program.
36. S.1430 : A bill to authorize State and local governments to direct divestiture from, and prevent investment in, companies with investments of $20,000,000 or more in Iran's energy sector, and for other purposes.
37. S.1513 : A bill to amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to authorize grant programs to enhance the access of low-income African-American students to higher education.
38. S.1574 : A bill to establish Teaching Residency Programs for preparation and induction of teachers.
39. S.1713 : A bill to provide for the issuance of a commemorative postage stamp in honor of Rosa Parks.
40. S.1790 : A bill to make grants to carry out activities to prevent the incidence of unintended pregnancies and sexually transmitted infections among teens in racial or ethnic minority or immigrant communities, and for other purposes.
41. S.1811 : A bill to amend the Toxic Substances Control Act to assess and reduce the levels of lead found in child-occupied facilities in the United States, and for other purposes.
42. S.1817 : A bill to ensure proper administration of the discharge of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder, and for other purposes.
43. S.1818 : A bill to amend the Toxic Substances Control Act to phase out the use of mercury in the manufacture of chlorine and caustic soda, and for other purposes.
44. S.1824 : A bill to amend title XVIII of the Social Security Act to establish a Hospital Quality Report Card Initiative under the Medicare program to assess and report on health care quality in hospitals.
45. S.1873 : A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish demonstration programs on regionalized systems for emergency care, to support emergency medicine research, and for other purposes.
46. S.1885 : A bill to provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
47. S.1977 : A bill to provide for sustained United States leadership in a cooperative global effort to prevent nuclear terrorism, reduce global nuclear arsenals, stop the spread of nuclear weapons and related material and technology, and support the responsible and peaceful use of nuclear technology.
48. S.1989 : A bill to provide a mechanism for the determination on the merits of the claims of claimants who met the class criteria in a civil action relating to racial discrimination by the Department of Agriculture but who were denied that determination.
49. S.2030 : A bill to amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require reporting relating to bundled contributions made by persons other than registered lobbyists.
50. S.2044 : A bill to provide procedures for the proper classification of employees and independent contractors, and for other purposes.
51. S.2066 : A bill to establish nutrition and physical education standards for schools.
52. S.2111 : A bill to amend the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 to allow State educational agencies, local educational agencies, and schools to increase implementation of early intervention services, particularly school-wide positive behavior supports.
53. S.2132 : A bill to prohibit the introduction or delivery for introduction into interstate commerce of children's products that contain lead, and for other purposes.
54. S.2147 : A bill to require accountability for contractors and contract personnel under Federal contracts, and for other purposes.
55. S.2202 : A bill to amend the Clean Air Act to increase the renewable content of gasoline, and for other purposes.
56. S.2224 : A bill to require a licensee to notify the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, and the State and county in which a facility is located, whenever there is an unplanned release of radioactive substances.
57. S.2227 : A bill to provide grants to States to ensure that all students in the middle grades are taught an academically rigorous curriculum with effective supports so that students complete the middle grades prepared for success in high school and postsecondary endeavors, to improve State and district policies and programs relating to the academic achievement of students in the middle grades, to develop and implement effective middle school models for struggling students, and for other purposes.
58. S.2330 : A bill to authorize a pilot program within the Departments of Veterans Affairs and Housing and Urban Development with the goal of preventing at-risk veterans and veteran families from falling into homelessness, and for other purposes.
59. S.2347 : A bill to restore and protect access to discount drug prices for university-based and safety-net clinics.
60. S.2392 : A bill to direct the Secretary of Education to establish and maintain a public website through which individuals may find a complete database of available scholarships, fellowships, and other programs of financial assistance in the study of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
61. S.2428 : A bill to direct the Secretary of Education to establish and maintain a public website through which individuals may find a complete database of available scholarships, fellowships, and other programs of financial assistance in the study of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
62. S.2433 : A bill to require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
63. S.2519 : A bill to prohibit the awarding of a contract or grant in excess of the simplified acquisition threshold unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee has no seriously delinquent tax debts, and for other purposes.
64. S.AMDT.41 to S.1 To require lobbyists to disclose the candidates, leadership PACs, or political parties for whom they collect or arrange contributions, and the aggregate amount of the contributions collected or arranged.
Latest Major Action: 1/18/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 41 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
65. S.AMDT.55 to S.1 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
66. S.AMDT.58 to S.1 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
67. S.AMDT.188 to H.R.2 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
68. S.AMDT.338 to S.4 To require consideration of high-risk qualifying criteria in allocating funds under the State Homeland Security Grant Program.
69. S.AMDT.524 to S.CON.RES.21 To provide $100 million for the Summer Term Education Program supporting summer learning opportunities for low-income students in the early grades to lessen summer learning losses that contribute to the achievement gaps separating low-income students from their middle-class peers.
*Latest Major Action: 3/23/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 524 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
70. S.AMDT.586 to S.CON.RES.21 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
71. S.AMDT.599 to S.CON.RES.21 To add $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy.
*Latest Major Action: 3/23/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 599 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
72. S.AMDT.664 to H.R.1591 To appropriate an additional $58,000,000 for Defense Health Program for additional mental health and related personnel, an additional $10,000,000 for operation and maintenance for each of the military departments for improved physical disability evaluations of members of the Armed Forces, and an additional $15,000,000 for Defense Health Program for women's mental health services.
73. S.AMDT.684 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
74. S.AMDT.809 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
75. S.AMDT.810 to H.R.1591 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
76. S.AMDT.905 to S.761 To require the Director of Mathematics, Science, and Engineering Education to establish a program to recruit and provide mentors for women and underrepresented minorities who are interested in careers in mathematics, science, and engineering.
*Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 905 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
77. S.AMDT.907 to S.761 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
78. S.AMDT.923 to S.761 To expand the pipeline of individuals entering the science, technology, engineering, and mathematics fields to support United States innovation and competitiveness.
*Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 923 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
79. S.AMDT.924 to S.761 To establish summer term education programs.
*Latest Major Action: 4/25/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 924 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
80. S.AMDT.1041 to S.1082 To improve the safety and efficacy of genetic tests.
*Latest Major Action: 5/8/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 1041 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
81. S.AMDT.1045 to S.1082 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
82. S.AMDT.1130 to H.R.1495 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
83. S.AMDT.1185 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
84. S.AMDT.1202 to S.1348 To provide a date on which the authority of the section relating to the increasing of American competitiveness through a merit-based evaluation system for immigrants shall be terminated.
*Latest Major Action: 6/6/2007 Senate amendment not agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 1202 not agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 42 - 55. Record Vote Number: 200.
85. S.AMDT.1243 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
86. S.AMDT.1444 to S.1348 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
87. S.AMDT.1558 to H.R.6 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
88. S.AMDT.1579 to H.R.6 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
89. S.AMDT.1735 to H.R.6 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
90. S.AMDT.1840 to H.R.6 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
91. S.AMDT.2084 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
92. S.AMDT.2085 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
93. S.AMDT.2086 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
94. S.AMDT.2104 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
95. S.AMDT.2106 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
96. S.AMDT.2149 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
97. S.AMDT.2464 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
98. S.AMDT.2473 to H.R.2638 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
99. S.AMDT.2519 to H.R.2638 To provide that one of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5 million or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee certifies in writing to the agency awarding the contract or grant that the contractor or grantee owes no past due Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 7/26/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2519 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
100. S.AMDT.2588 to H.R.976 To provide certain employment protections for family members who are caring for members of the Armed Forces recovering from illnesses and injuries incurred on active duty.
*Latest Major Action: 8/2/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2588 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
101. S.AMDT.2658  to H.R.2642 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 9/11/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2799 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
102. S.AMDT.2659 to H.R.2642 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
103. S.AMDT.2690 to H.R.2764 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
104. S.AMDT.2692 to H.R.2764 To require a comprehensive nuclear threat reduction and security plan.
*Latest Major Action: 9/6/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2692 as modified agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
105. S.AMDT.2799 to H.R.3074 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 9/11/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 2799 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
106. S.AMDT.3004 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
107. S.AMDT.3026 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
108. S.AMDT.3068 to H.R.1585 Purpose will be available when the amendment is proposed for consideration. See Congressional Record for text.
109. S.AMDT.3073 to H.R.1585 To provide for transparency and accountability in military and security contracting.
*Latest Major Action: 9/27/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 3073 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
110. S.AMDT.3078 to H.R.1585 Relating to administrative separations of members of the Armed Forces for personality disorder.
*Latest Major Action: 9/27/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 3078 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
111. S.AMDT.3137 to H.R.3222 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 10/3/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 3137 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.
112. S.AMDT.3234 to H.R.3093 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 10/15/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 3234 agreed to in Senate by Voice Vote.
113. S.AMDT.3331 to H.R.3043 To provide that none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this Act may be used to enter into a contract in an amount greater than $5,000,000 or to award a grant in excess of such amount unless the prospective contractor or grantee makes certain certifications regarding Federal tax liability.
*Latest Major Action: 10/22/2007 Senate amendment agreed to. Status: Amendment SA 3331 agreed to in Senate by Unanimous Consent.

Yeabut....

Did you hear that:

McCain missed 50% of his votes during this session of the 110th Congress?

Obama missed over 40% of his votes.

And Hillary missed 25% of her votes.

Hmmm. Not that voting on Bills is all that important for a US Senator.... That's just the "people's business"...

is coming from. 890? He's written 890 bills? Where are they?

I'm confused.

State. It's the new equivalent of Federal this season. 

Lobbyists

State / Federal <==== nothin' to do with each other.

Turns out State lobbyists = good guys
Fed lobbyists = bad guys

Take notes.

a Daily Kobama diary without supporting linky for the 890... Ingest with shaker full O salt.

who knows this stuff make an accurate list of what either has done in the US SENATE, not counting whatevers in the IL Senate, his high school debate team, boy scout troop 12, and kindergarten nap time. Also, it would be nioe to post a list of O's PRESENT votes in the IL senate - and just what it is that he missed. He's definitely not noted for his hard work as a legislator. He was running for president 5 minutes after his convention speech in 04. Or maybe before.

NOBAMA! There's no there there.

Hilzoy at Obsedianwings did this, but he eventually came out for Obama (for wonky reasons), but unfortunately I can't find the link. From what I remember they mostly changed the names of various post offices in their respective states. (Sad, but true.)

Found it

Also, apparently Hilzoy is a female, so I got the pronoun wrong above.

We didn't complain about the Republicans who found Clark preferable to Bush. But we did complain about all the Republicans who voted for Dean who thought he would be the easiest to beat. Same song, second verse.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!

decide my votes or decisions. Remember when they laughed and said Dean becoming DNC was the worst decision ever?! That he was gonna tank what was left of the party?
Well 2006 proved otherwise didn't it?
What about when Bush Sr said Gore was "an enviornut" who if had it his way "would have americans out of jobs while being up to our necks in owls"
Now Gore is the world's most respected leader when it comes to climate change.

I could go on and on...

You changed the subject about four times. There was strong evidence in 2003 & early 2004 that since Bush was unopposed, Republicans flocked to Dean in open primaries to get the weakest candidate nominated.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!

Dean skyrocketed to the front of the pack at first because of his message. Anyone can make the case that repubs voted for a certain candidate to "sabotage" our primary. Just as you can make the case that repubs voted for the same candidate because he/she simply won them over.
Besides, according to you the repubs plan failed to get Dean nominated and guess what we still lost.
ALSO, all the right wing talk show guys like Hannity etc...have been actually making the opposite point....that Barack is actually the strongest candidate and that are hoping for a Hillary nomination.
Either way, it's a mistake to pay too much mind to the primary "sabotage" effects.
I think HRC Or Obama or both capable of beating McCain.

That's because they love him and aren't faking it. They really wanted to vote FOR him. That is the thing Dems don't see. Stupid is as stupid does.

They aren't voting for BO because they love the guy but because they hate Hillary.

John Kerry was a vet with war wounds. He bled. They made a steak into ground meat, for gawd's sake. Why? They do not like him. BO has maybe had skinned knees in childhood. Not only is he not a vet, he is anti-war. He is anti-nuke. He is anti-gun. He has no national security experience, none. Zero. They will roast him.

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