Hillary said Obama is electable; How even I or Mickey Mouse could be electable!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 18, 2008 - 4:45am.
Rapid Response
Hello Everyone:
Hillary Clinton was pressed to say in the last debate that Barack Obama is electable if he is the nominee:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_debate;_ylt=Aq06VOHNRemdONpWQ_c4Rims0NUE
Clinton changes course on Obama's electability
By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer
Thu Apr 17, 7:24 AM ET
PHILADELPHIA - "Hillary Rodham Clinton said emphatically Wednesday night that Barack Obama can win the White House this fall, undercutting her efforts to deny him the Democratic presidential nomination by suggesting he would lead the party to defeat.
Yes, yes, yes," she said when pressed about Obama's electability during a campaign debate six days before the Pennsylvania primary..."
My analysis of Hillary's statement is that she was pretty much forced to say that because it would have been very politically incorrect of her to do otherwise. If she said that Obama is not electable, then that would have upset many Democratic voters as well as superdelegates!
Unfortunately, Hillary for the most part is having to fight Obama with one hand tied behind her back right now as I have credibly documented:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/14725
Dominic Carter of NY 1 explains why it is awkward for Hillary to criticize Obama
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 14, 2008 - 10:57pm.
Fortunately, I can tell the truth about this. The bottom line in my opinion is that under normal circumstances, Barack Obama is probably NOT electable mainly because he does NOT understand the nature of the kind of swiftboat attacks that he will face to negatively define him as a candidate IF he is the nominee as I have credibly documented:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15195
Mitt Romney is right that Obama "can't be calling foul or unfair" IF nominated!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 5, 2008 - 5:46am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15161
Mark Halperin explains what Obama does NOT understand about being swiftboated!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 31, 2008 - 11:59pm.
However Obama under the right set of circumstances and by getting a very lucky break could possibly be electable just like how even I or Mickey Mouse could possibly be electable against John McCain under the right set of circumstances!
Obama, myself, or even Mickey Mouse could possibly be electable against McCain IF any of the following set of circumstances happened in the general election:
1) A right wing third party candidate runs as a protest candidate to McCain, gets some traction, and takes some disillusioned Republican base votes away from McCain. There is a possibility that this could happen with Bob Barr and Alan Keyes for starters:
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/barr_presidential_run/2008/04/04/85613.html
Ex-Congressman Weighs Presidential Bid
Friday, April 4, 2008 5:29 PM
WASHINGTON -- "Former Republican congressman Bob Barr is hinting strongly that he'll jump into the presidential race as a Libertarian.
Barr, 59, who left the GOP in 2006 over what he called bloated spending and civil liberties intrusions by the Bush administration, is expected to make an announcement Saturday at a Libertarian conference in Kansas City.
Should he run, Barr might sap votes from Republican John McCain, but whether it would be enough to alter the outcome of the presidential vote in any state was uncertain..."
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Alan_Keyes_break_gop/2008/04/15/88159.html
Alan Keyes To Announce Break With GOP
Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:12 PM
"Keyes added that he is looking to the Constitution Party as a possible home for his future efforts in politics, including a potential run for president in the 2008 general election.
"No other 'third party' is as well-established as the Constitution Party," said Keyes. "They've been around since 1992, and have built a significant grassroots presence among patriotic, Constitution-minded citizens — with a registered membership of over 350,000. Conservatives have a home in the CP that they can find nowhere else, given the decline in the Republican Party's credibility as a voice and vehicle for conservatism."
Regarding his potential third-party candidacy for president in the fall, Keyes said, "I believe people deserve a choice. They certainly deserve a conservative choice — something neither John McCain, Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama can offer voters. All they can offer is empty promises based on liberal track records..."
2) Disillusioned Republican leaders such as James Dobson and Rush Limbaugh who strongly influence a lot of base voters and who clearly do not like "Maverick" John McCain could sit out the election entirely and/or do very little if anything to help McCain:
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Dobson_vote_McCain/2008/02/01/69333.html
Dr. Dobson: I Will Never Vote for McCain
Friday, February 1, 2008 12:07 PM
"While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.
Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn't support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn't support traditional marriage values..."
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/Limbaugh:_McCain/2008/02/14/72757.html
Limbaugh: Do Not Try to Win Me Over, McCain
Thursday, February 14, 2008 3:27 PM
By: Newsmax Staff
Radio talker Rush Limbaugh has been sharply critical of John McCain for being too liberal for conservatives’ taste, but Rush says any shift now by the Republican front-runner would be seen as “pandering...”
Rush said that with the general election likely pitting McCain against Barack Obama, “I don’t have to tout McCain, but I certainly will be critical of Obama.”
He added that he would probably continue to hold McCain’s feet to the fire, but said “it’s not personal...”
3) Bush's very low poll numbers and his Republican brand could rub off on McCain so badly that a lot of people would probably vote for anyone with a "D" next to their name:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/106426/Bush-Job-Approval-28-Lowest-Administration.aspx
April 11, 2008
Bush Job Approval at 28%, Lowest of His Administration
Only Nixon and Truman have had lower job approval ratings
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- "President George W. Bush's job approval rating has dropped to 28%, the lowest of his administration. Bush's approval is lower than that of any president since World War II, with the exceptions of Jimmy Carter (who had a low point of 28% in 1979), and Richard Nixon and Harry Truman, who suffered ratings in the low- to mid-20% range in the last years of their administrations..."
Joy Behar asked John McCain the key question about Bush that he will probably hear all through the general election:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/10/acd.02.html
ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Marine Accused of Killing Pregnant Marine Captured; Tough Questions for General David Petraeus; New Details on the Polygamist Ranch; McCain Courts the Female Vote
Aired April 10, 2008 - 23:00 ET
JOY BEHAR, "THE VIEW" CO-HOST: "I don't like George Bush as a president. I want to know, since you are for his tax cuts for the wealthy, that you are for staying in Iraq, that you are against Roe v. Wade, how are you different from George Bush?
SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We have a friendly relationship. There are issues that we have disagreed on; the conduct of the war for four years, spending, climate change. There's a list of issues that we have open and honest disagreements..."
Bush could also do something extra stupid and mess up so badly that McCain could possibly lose the election simply because of what Bush did.
4) John McCain could make some kind of a fatal gaffe or mistake on the same level as George Allen's "Maccacca moment" or John Kerry's so-called "bothched joke" which is the main reason why they did not run for President in 2008. A fatal mistake on that level could automatically cost McCain the election whether he was running against Obama, myself, or even against Mickey Mouse!
So literally, Obama is potentially electable just like how even I or Mickey Mouse could potentially be electable against John McCain under the right set of circumstances by getting some kind of a lucky break as I described above. This is how I think that Hillary's campaign can credibly explain her saying that Obama is electable in that debate!
The big questions that Democratic primary voters and superdelegates have to ask themselves in my opinion is do they want to nominate a weak candidate without substance like Obama who under normal circumstances is probably NOT electable and who would need some kind of a very lucky break to happen in his favor in order to have the best possible chances of winning the general election?
Why would they want to nominate a candidate like Obama who does not have any understanding of the kind of swiftboat attacks that he will come under IF he is the nominee?
Obama ignoring the importance of swiftboat attacks is being totally naive and arrogant in my opinion!
Obama thinking that he does not have to deal with GOP attack machine swiftboat attacks means that he thinks he can do what Michael Dukakis, Al Gore, and John Kerry could not do. They lost mainly because they were swiftboated and were negatively defined as Presidential candidates by the other side. What does Obama think that he can do differently than Dukakis, Gore, and Kerry when the exact same kind of swiftboat attacks will happen to him IF he is the nominee and when he has so much baggage that came out in the last debate?
Hillary Clinton fully understands this concept and we already know everything that there is to know about her so this will NOT be a serious problem for Hillary if she is the nominee like how it will be for Barack Obama!
This is why Hillary is MUCH more electable than Obama in my opinion!
Mitch Dworkin
http://www.securingamerica.com/
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/10756
StopIranWar.com: "War is not the answer"
Submitted by Wes Clark on February 21, 2007 - 11:40am.
http://www.securingamerica.com/ccn/node/7191
Listen to Gen. Wes Clark fight for Dems on Sean Hannity's radio program: An excellent example for all of us to follow and what we all need to be doing to help fight back against extreme right wing Neocon smear propaganda!
Nader is probably not the huge threat now that he was back in 2000 but he is still a potential spoiler in my opinion!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23319215/
'Meet the Press' transcript for Feb. 24, 2008
Ralph Nader, David Brooks, Doris Kearns Goodwin, Michele Norris, Chuck Todd
MR. RUSSERT: "Will you run for president as an independent in 2008?
MR. NADER: Let me put it in context, to make it a little more palatable to people who have closed minds. Twenty-four percent of the American people are satisfied with the state of the country, according to Gallup. That's about the lowest ranking ever. Sixty-one percent think both major parties are failing. And, according to Frank Luntz's poll, a Republican, 80 percent would consider voting for a independent this year. Now, you take that framework of people feeling locked out, shut, shut out, marginalized, disrespected and you go from Iraq to Palestine/Israel, from Enron to Wall Street, from Katrina to the bungling of the Bush administration, to the complicity of the Democrats in not stopping him on the war, stopping him on the tax cuts, getting a decent energy bill through, and you have to ask yourself, as a citizen, should we elaborate the issues that the two are not talking about? And the--all, all the candidates--McCain, Obama and Clinton--are against single payer health insurance, full Medicare for all. I'm for it, as well as millions of Americans and 59 percent of physicians in a forthcoming poll this April. People don't like Pentagon waste, a bloated military budget, all the reports in the press and in the GAO reports. A wasteful defense is a weak defense. It takes away taxpayer money that can go to the necessities of the American people. That's off the table to Obama and Clinton and McCain.
The issue of labor law reform, repealing the notorious Taft-Hartley Act that keeps workers who are now more defenseless than ever against corporate globalization from organizing to defend their interests. Cracking down on corporate crime. The media--the mainstream media repeatedly indicating how trillions of dollars have been drained and fleeced and looted from millions of workers and investors who don't have many rights these days, and pensioners. You know, when you see the paralysis of the government, when you see Washington, D.C., be corporate-occupied territory, every department agency controlled by overwhelming presence of corporate lobbyists, corporate executives in high government positions, turning the government against its own people, you--one feels an obligation, Tim, to try to open the doorways, to try to get better ballot access, to respect dissent in America in the terms of third parties and, and independent candidates; to recognize historically that great issues have come in our history against slavery and women rights to vote and worker and farmer progressives, through little parties that never ran--won any national election. Dissent is the mother of ascent. And in that context, I have decided to run for president.
MR. RUSSERT: As you know, Ralph Nader, they'll be Democrats all across the country who are going to find this very disturbing news, and they'll point again to 2000. This was the vote count. Al Gore winning the popular vote, but you've got 2.7 percent, nearly three million votes, in 2000. Then Florida, Florida, Florida. As you remember, George Bush won Florida by 537 votes. You've got 97,488. Democrat after Democrat says to this day, Ralph Nader, if your name had not been on that ballot, Al Gore would've carried Florida. Exit polls show he would've carried Nader voters 2-to-1. Gore would've been president and not George Bush. You, Ralph Nader are responsible for what has happened the last seven years..."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/17/acd.01.html
ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES
Polygamist Custody Battle Under Way; Abuse Victims Meet With Pope Benedict XVI
Aired April 17, 2008 - 22:00 ET
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: "Senator Hillary Clinton taking a shot at her rival, Barack Obama, during last night's debate. Reverend Jeremiah Wright and his controversial remarks are just the beginning.
As CNN's Candy Crowley reported before the break, Senator Obama was turned into kind of a pinata at times. Digging deeper, Candy joins me again, along with CNN political analyst David Gergen and Gloria Borger.
Candy, Obama said last night's debate was just more of the typical Washington politics and voters are tired of it. But even if he's right, the fact that he seemed to stumble during the debate, isn't that ammunition for his opponents, who say, "Well, you know what? General elections are full of typical Washington politics. And if you can't overcome it, you shouldn't be the nominee"?
CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's the Clinton argument, Anderson. It's, "Listen, I'm talking to the super delegates. Nobody knows a lot of things about Barack Obama's past. Imagine what might come out. You know my past. I've been in the public life for 16 years. You know who I am. They've been through all my baggage." So that's clearly her argument.
His argument, obviously, is you can't get anything done playing the same old Washington politics. So in essence, both of them came out of that debate furthering their argument..."
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/05/12/barr-announces-presidential-bid/
May 12, 2008
Barr announces presidential bid
Posted: 11:30 AM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/05/12/sot.bob.barr.presidential.annc.cnn (2:30)
Watch part of Bob Barr's announcement Monday. 
(CNN) – Former Republican Rep. Bob Barr formally jumped into the White House race Monday as a candidate for the Libertarian Party's presidential nomination.
Barr, the onetime darling of conservatives who led the impeachment fight against former President Bill Clinton, said he is running because voters want a choice beyond the two political parties.
"They believe that America has more and better to offer than what the current political situation is serving up to us," he said Monday at the National Press Club in Washington. "The reason for that is very simple, they believe in America as I believe in America. We believe in an America that is not and should not be and should never be driven by fear as current policies on behalf of both parties are in this country."
Barr, 59, represented Georgia's 7th congressional district from 1995-2003, and became an increasingly vocal critic of President Bush, especially over the president's support of the Patriot Act. He formally left the Republican Party in 2006.
It remains unclear how much support he will draw, but CNN's Bill Schneider says Barr could be to John McCain what Ralph Nader was to Al Gore in 2000.
"If this is an extremely close election, even if Bob Barr gets a handful of votes, it could make a difference, just as Ralph Nader once did," Schneider said. "He is a conservative who attracts mostly Republican voters. He is critical of the Iraq war. McCain supports the Iraq war. There are many conservatism and Republicans who ware critical of the war in Iraq and some of them may decide to vote for Bob Barr to register their protests.
Related Video:Watch Senior Political Analyst Bill Schneider give his take on Barr's entry to the race and the latest superdelegate count.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/05/12/schneider.obama.pulls.ahead.cnn
Filed under: Bobb Barr
Bill Schneider isn't talking about the Dem primary, obviously, since Barr isn't in it. Ohhh, I see...the already-decided matchup of McCain and The Messiah--the contest that's already a foregone conclusion! Well, I've got a newsflash for Schneider and all the other Obamaniacs at CNN and MSNBC: even if Hillary does drop out on May 20th as you've all predicted, your Golden One won't be running neck-in-neck with war hero John! You can dig up all the odd polls you want where Repubs are telling you that (tee hee) they prefer BO--they DO prefer him as the Dem nominee--but the general public is not going to march zombie-like to the polls and follow your lead! You think rejected Dems and hardshell Repubs are going to vote for Barr and chance putting BO in the White House?
I've been listening to the recorded version of Stephen King's Lisey's Story, and that weird realm called Booyamoon (I don't know how it's spelled) is more realistic that the political world today!
once the nominee is decided as the two polls below show.
I disagree with Rep. Clyburn dismissing the poll that Wolf Blitzer quoted and with his thinking that Democratic Party unity will probably be easy but then again, what do you expect him to publicly say when he has not endorsed a candidate yet and when he has to say what is politically correct?
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0804/14/sitroom.01.html
THE SITUATION ROOM
Obama Fights 'Elitist' Label; Democrats Reach out to Religious Voters; Americans Angered Over Food Prices
Aired April 14, 2008 - 16:00 ET
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: I don't know if you saw the issue of "TIME" magazine, because they have a poll in there that I thought was pretty revealing. At least it's a snapshot of what's going on right now. I write about it on my blog post at CNNPolitics.com today.
We'll put the numbers up on the screen. And you can look right behind you and you'll see them once we get there.
If Obama -- we asked Obama supporters if they would vote for Hillary Clinton or John McCain if they lost. And here, 68 percent said they would vote for Clinton, but 16 percent of the Obama supporters said they'd vote for McCain, 16 percent say they don't know who they'd vote for. That's 32 percent who aren't ready to make a flat commitment they'd vote for Hillary Clinton if she gets the nomination.
And then we asked Clinton supporters -- this is the "TIME" magazine poll -- Clinton supporters who they'd vote for if Obama is the nominee. And look at this -- 56 percent said they'd vote for Obama among Clinton supporters, but 26 percent said they'd vote for McCain, 18 percent said they'd vote for -- they don't know. Forty- four percent refusing to make a commitment to vote for Obama among Clinton supporters.
That's a snapshot. It could change. But that must be very disturbing when you see those numbers.
REP. JAMES CLYBURN (D-SC), MAJORITY WHIP: No. Not to me.
BLITZER: Why?
CLYBURN: I recall primaries before. As long as you're in the primary when people's feelings are raw, they will answer in a snapshot. This is the way I feel today. When we get to September and October, when you pull in contrasts between the candidates, I think you'll see something totally different.
BLITZER: Because you know Obama supporters, a lot of them, are very passionate for him. A lot of Clinton supporters very passionate for her. And to a certain degree they don't like the other guy.
CLYBURN: Yes, but they feel at this time that there's something about this whole process -- they're looking at the so-called superdelegates and what role they may or may not play. And so I think a lot of people are reserving, hedging their bets to see whether or not this process plays out in a fair manner.
If it plays out in a very fair manner, I think everything will be fine. Right now people are very, very concerned about what role the superdelegates will play..."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/105691/McCain-vs-Obama-28-Clinton-Backers-McCain.aspx
March 26, 2008
If McCain vs. Obama, 28% of Clinton Backers Go for McCain
If McCain vs. Clinton, 19% of Obama backers go for McCain
by Frank Newport
PRINCETON, NJ -- "A sizable proportion of Democrats would vote for John McCain next November if he is matched against the candidate they do not support for the Democratic nomination. This is particularly true for Hillary Clinton supporters, more than a quarter of whom currently say they would vote for McCain if Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee..."