Will this sink the O-ship?
Submitted by donjo on May 22, 2008 - 11:46am.
From the investigative article by Evelyn Pringle:
Pertinent points:
"As discussed fully in Curtain Time Part II, Obama was the inside guy in the senate who pushed through the legislation that resulted in the Act.
Obama was appointed chairman of the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. The minute the bill was introduced, it was referred to his committee for review. The sponsors of the bill also served on this committee with Obama. Within a month, Chairman Obama sent word to the full senate that the legislation should be passed.
On May 31, 2003, Senate Bill 1332 passed and specified that the “Board shall be appointed by the Governor, with the advice and consent of the Senate." The legislation reduced the number of members from 15 to 9, paving the way for the appointment of a five-bloc majority to rig the votes.
The corrupt members appointed included three doctors who contributed to Obama. Michel Malek gave Obama $10,000 on June 30, 2003 and donated $25,000 to Blagojevich on July 25, 2003. Malek also gave Obama another $500 in September 2003.
Fortunee Massuda donated $25,000 to Blagojevich on July 25, 2003, and gave a total of $2,000 to Obama on different dates. After he was appointed, Dr Imad Almanaseer contributed a total of $3,000 to Obama. Almanaseer did not give money to Blagojevich.
When the first pay-to-play scheme was put in play, and the application for approval of a new hospital was submitted, the Department of Human Services, along with four other Illinois agencies, sent recommendations that the project should be approved even though experts said the hospital was not needed.
During the trial, Rezko’s attorney presented an email exchange to the jury that hinted at Obama's role in setting up the scheme. The exchange showed that Obama and seven other top Illinois politicians consulted on the legislation passed in 2003 and were involved in recommending the members for the board.
The persons appointed to rig the votes, including those who contributed to Blagojevich and Obama, are cooperating in exchange for immunity or lighter prison sentences.
However, judging from the indictments in Board Games unsealed so far, Obama's legal culpability at this point anyways, stems from his involvement in setting up and receiving money from the pay-to-play schemes."
IF Hillary or Bill were in on something like this, the MSM would be all over it. But you can't question the one who thinks he is the Messiah.
Read the whole report at:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/genera_evelyn_p_080522_final_chapter___curt.htm
burst on our TV screens, but the MSM continues to pretend nothing is wrong. If the DNC finagles him into the nomination, McCain can waltz into the WH. All the BOers continue to give specious excuses for him losing the hillbilly and working class white vote, and most of the MSM puts forth lies of omission to cover for his loses. Last night, I heard KO on my husband's TV pushing the nonsequitur that 50% of Hillary voters in either WV or KY--I'm not sure which--said they'd vote for BO in Nov. and only 32% said they'd vote for JM. He failed to mention that a sizable number said they'd sit home! Now, we all know that carrying the hippie vote in states like OR isn't going to do it for BO. The Great One is doing steadily worse in hillbilly states, only carrying two counties with good-size cities in KY and losing several rural counties by around 90%. And when the GE rolls around, even more Dems will come out to vote, and the Repubs will be out with bells on!
Okay, we have two assumptions here: either the Dems KNOW they are throwing the election under the bus, or they believe they can create enough O-bots to outnumber all the anybody-but-Obama folks. They can't be fool enough to believe BO can charm all the latter into his camp by election day. And they claim Hillary is a scorched-earther! It seems to me they're the ones who want to burn down the party and have a new one rise from the ashes!
and there have been a lot of them, I have NEVER seen the media in the tank for one candidate as much as they have been for Barack H. Obama. I seriously think our media is worse than the Pravda era in the good old USSR. There, at least you knew you were being fed the party b.s., but here, the media is hidden behind a false facade of non-bias.
I even wrote David Letterman last night and asked if he was afraid of being labeled a racist since all his jokes were aimed at making shit of the WOMAN Dem candidate. His pants suits jokes are getting a tad bit old. Anyway, his program is symtomatic of the problem; Leno does it and Craig Ferguson, Letterman's heir apparent also does it. Anything for a laugh, as long as it's at a woman's expense. They all need to seriously take a look at some of the black comedians making crap about themselves and their race. Incredibly biting and incredibly funny. Theses guys are good. The single most hilarious show I've ever seen was a performance by Bill Cosby, who, as you know, is not afraid to mince words about his own race. However, when was the last time you heard a joke about Obama - or have even seen a political cartoon hammering him? Afraid or are they told to lay off?
In any case, Pringle's work is highly interesting and, apparently, dead on. The problem is that it's waaaaaaaaay too long and way too complicated. In SPREADING IT AROUND THE INTERNET BLOGS, it needs to be summarized as she so conveniently did in her last episode and I have copied here. Now, this is understandable - and postable. Hint, hint.
Impeach Obama!
"I have NEVER seen the media in the tank for one candidate as much as they have been for Barack"
Have you all forgotten McCain? The man's free ride extends to his nutty preacher friend.
I returned here after some months away, only to find the kind of sniping I would expect on a Republican site. Why is there no movement to get Clark on as Veep? People are saying Hillary took herself out of the race with this assassination remark. Clark may be the best bet to get Hillary people on board for Obama, and a Democratic president - my number one priority!
Because people come around here once a year to snipe at others without having the slightest idea of what has been going on. You portray an innocent remark, detailing accurate history, as if Hillary has ordered the assassination of someone. For Christ's sake, get over it. Think before you swallow the MSM's senseless biased rantings. For hundreds of reasons, but basically because he's as corrupt as Chimpy, and has no experience doing anything of note, WE DON'T WANT OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT. That's our perogative; if you don't like it, you're at the wrong place.
But remember OVER HALF of the dem primary voters voted for Hillary.
We're electing the President of the United States, not some g.d. prom king.
Read my remark again. I complained that I returned to this site only to find "the kind of sniping I would expect on a Republican site" (and I didn't just mean your message) only to be accused of accusing Hillary of ordering an assassination of someone. If you can't discuss politics without misrepresenting others' remarks then leave it alone.
I don't care if the nominee is Clinton, Obama or Gore, who is still a possibility if there is a hung convention this summer. I would prefer any of them to McCain, because I think any of them would be better for the country.
BTW, If you really think Obama is as corrupt as Bush, I can't believe you've been paying serious attention to Bush.
Oh, and as for your "WE DON'T WANT OBAMA TO BE PRESIDENT . . . if you don't like it, you're at the wrong place" remark, General Clark supported Hillary. He didn't ask us to. I'm not endorsing anyone for the nomination. I will support the nominee. I only ask that everyone here do the same. I'm sure General Clark will, and I'm sure he'll ask us to join him in that when the time comes.
to support whomever you wish, but you've come back here to Gen, Clark's site, repeating Obama's talking points. DO I think Obama is as corrupt as Bush, yes. I've been paying serious attention to Bush, but unlike a lot of people, I've also been paying serious attention to Obama. His corrupt nature is shown his history in IL politics, and through the way his campaign is run - brutal, cheating, and doing anything to win. He may not be as corrupt as Bush, YET, but he hasn't had the chances Chimpy has had and, God willing, he never will. Seriously, I look at this as the Chicago people pulling Obama's strings, as seeing this as their turn at the public trough.
BTW, many people are seeing Obama as more Repub than Dem, with a history of backing repub policies and people. (Lieberman?)
Also, BTW, you're about the 10th person (Obama supporters all) who has dropped by recently, after months "away," to find the "sniping" unbearable. Strange, that.
We're electing the President of the United States, not some g.d. prom king.
Sure, you and I have the right to support anyone we want, but if we really put country ahead of party, and principle ahead of personality, we would pledge to support anyone the Democrats nominate this time around. The stakes are too high. Do you really think that if Obama wins the nomination, General Clark will not be there with him on the podium at the convention? That he will not campaign for him? Where will you be then? Campaigning for McCain? Is that when those of us who don't support any candidate yet can come back without having our positions misrepresented? It's nice to know that others object to the tone of some people here, but it's not nice to see that tone.
I'm putting country before party, principle ahead of personality and *won't* be voting for Barack Obama. I do not follow *anyone* blindly.
I will not vote for anyone for President, because it simply won't matter, if Obama is on the ticket. McCain will win. I will put forth whatever work I can do to support downticket Democrats. They, for the most part, will deserve all the help they can get.
I frankly don't give a dadgum whether you or anyone else likes my "tone".
I simply won't have Barack Obama shoved down my throat. He is not deserving of the highest office in this land.
Obama is hated here even more than Dubya himself, let alone McCain. One can tell this in the level snarky comments directed at Obama. Even Karl Rove does not earn such vitrol here anymore... and faux news is now the network of choice for many CCNers, imagine that! Bill "malamedy massacare" O'Reily is more popular than Olbermann who is now known as "Ogremann".
This community is now perhaps overall more loyal to Hillary than to even Gen. Clark, let alone the Dem party. There are those here who can't stand the idea of Obama as president, let alone him actually succeeding as president.
What a difference a year can make...
For many, many of us, James, we began this race over a year ago with a deep skepticism about Clinton and no opinion whatsoever on Obama since he was such a blank slate. Then Gen. Clark announced he wasn't running and was endorsing Clinton, which caused many of ust take a second look. Over time, we saw new sides to Clinton we hadn't appreciated before, and Obama's slate began to fill with details.
Obama and his supporters have earned every bit of scorn leveled at them through hard work, just as Clinton has earned the newly-found admiration we have for her.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!
when the Dems have a nominee and the site is supporting them.
If it's Obama I expect the people who despise him will at least be quiet about it. If it's Clinton that's fine with me. As I said, I haven't endorsed anyone for the nomination, and I'm fine with whomever the Democrats nominate, even if Gore comes out of a hung convention or something else unpredictable.
I just don't see myself voting for John McCain, or even abstaining or casting a protest vote. Eight years ago I could have been a McCain Democrat, but the McCain some people fell in love with eight years ago no longer exists.
Its not just hillbillies that Obama has a problem with. He lost Massachusetts and Rhode Island by 17 and 18%. Both states have Obama friendly populations (wall to wall colleges, etc).
And it wouldn't surprise me if BO, if nominee, loses both these states to JM. I'm sure everyone noticed that the pro-BO media just conveniently ignored these loses. The only thing I heard was Matthews jokingly tossing out that the "Irish boys" in Boston voted against the black guy. Pretty soon after, I stopped listening to anyone gushing O-bilge.
And I suppose if he knew diddley about anything he would blame it on the Italians and Jews in Rhode Island. Sounds like a repeat of Reverend Wright!
Having lived here in Massachusetts for my 48 years now, I don't think race is the issue. Bill and Hillary Clinton were very popular here. Bill visted our city of Worcester and seems to connect with and impress people everywhere he stopped.
Where as other parts of the country seem to have amnesia about how good of a president he was, and buy into the villfication that he and Hillary have been subjected to, they both have a loyal following here.
Other then the occaisonal lapse, like when we voted for "together we can" Deval Patrick, we generally don't vote for inexperienced politicians with no connection to our community.
Bill Clinton is the new JFK of this state, but I don't recall anyone mentioning anything even approximating this on TV. Maybe they did, since I don't listen to the anti-Hillary media, but I understand from the blogosphere that West Virginians were accused of being racists and thus nixing BO. Since voters in MA elected Patrick, however, that case would be harder to make there.
Having been governed by Governor Mitt Romney, probably the greasiest opporunistic weasel of a politican that we have had in these parts, we had had our fill of Republican Governors. His Lt Governor Kerry Healy, known as "Muffy" was about as hideous of an heir apparent that they could have found. The both showed disdain for democrats at every opportunity. She never stood a chance.
While Deval Patrick might be a nice guy he seems ill equipped to handle the job of Governor in this state. He is well packaged and sold image, an elitist play toy. His focus appears to be on writing a book and I suspect getting plucked for a cabinet positon by O.
Hillary and Bill are heavy weights with a capacity to work with any congress and get things done.
To me he definitely sounds like another Obama, an affirmative-action candidate. And Romney? I always wondered how a Repub gov got elected there. Then I read that he told people what they wanted to hear and then did whatever he wanted. This modus operandi was pretty obvious during the Prez campaign.
Your comment is tinged with racism, which I don't think we appreciate. For better or worse, Deval Patrick is just a guy, warts and all, and must stand or fall on his own, unique, individual merits.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!
I'm not sure why this particular observation went over the top. Racism is a fact in this election, though I personally do not vote on the basis of it. IMO, if we cannot discuss the ugly truth and have to walk on egg shells, we cannot have a full and fruitful discussion.
Elitist Hillbilly here in the Hills of Cali-forn-i-a!
He lost California too. By a healthy margin. And I can't tell you how many latte sippers we have out here. We practically invented latte. :) Even though today's talking pts say everyone out here has suddenly changed their minds are now enamored with the One.... Polls ya know.
Elitist Hillbillies UNITE!
We need to organize.
I want to plan a peaceful protest at the Dem convention in Denver of just us Hillbillies. Complete with a full ho-down (no mean spirited humor or sexist puns intended) and freshly grilled vittles...
HILLbilly Ho-Down in Denver! Yeeee Hawwww!!
The Ho-Down Quartet
http://www.hodownquartet.com/music.html
Go to the link and listen to the 'Chosen Choice' MP3.
Perfect upscale, updated elitist Hillbilly Bluegrass!
A San Francisco group and they are fresh and good! We could dance an elitist HILL-BILL-y Jig to this stuff.
PS: "Cuckoo Bird" is a good one to listen to too.... :)
Dee has been posting about Pringle's articles since she started posting them -- I think there are 3? maybe more?
The saddest part, the most disgusting part, is that corporate press isn't going to touch it unless O! is the nominee. THEN we'll start hearing about it in mainstream.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
I'm about 99 44/100% sure that there were five of them.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark -- Make America All It Can Be!
It occurs to me that these polls mean Senator Obama shouldn't be the nominee. If he is the nominee, Pringles articles mean his VP will have to take over after Obama's imprisonment.
broke loose, and BO stepped down--would the veep automatically carry forth, or would the DNC arrange a revote or what? Anybody know?
IMHO this whole rush to convince people he's the nominee is because he thinks he will be immune from indictment if he's the chosen one.
Impeach Obama now! Avoid the rush.
Like I've said before, this mad rush to get Hillary to drop out and leave the nom to him has to be for a very pressing reason.
I was playing with my dog on the living room floor when Tweety came on, and, before I could get the devil out of the room, he asked for probably the thousandth time, "What does Hillary want?" and slammed forth some question about her leading JM in the polls and O being behind. Norah O claimed that it was b/c JM's been "running against himself". Of course, if this were the cause, then BOTH Dems would be behind him! These people sound like chattering lunatics, blathering nonsense and repeating two words over and over again!
Of course Hillary is running because she thinks she can be nominated and win the Presidency. I wonder, like most of us, if she knows some uber dirt on BO. Maybe she hopes to get the nod without it coming out. She and Bill, being the skillful pols they are, probably have an excellent idea of how good or bad her chances are.
The BOer MSM are certainly an aggravation of the worst sort, but I don't think they have much influence on people's voting. Why would anyone heed any advice they put forth? If anything, it seems that their beliefs would have a NEGATIVE effect! I guess these pundits are nothing but thugs and bullies who believe that if they shout loud enough and long enough they will get their way!
advertising propaganda. Used by the advertising community and skillfully developed by the you know who in Germany. If you keep repeating the same b.s. over and over again, people begin to think it's true. Look at how early they started the "Hillary should drop out" theme - way back in Iowa, wasn't it? People in this country, although they are bombarded hourly with examples of this basic technique, still don't seem to be able to see through all this crap.
We're electing the President of the United States, not some g.d. prom king.
I work with a middle-aged man with whom I discuss politics. He's a staunch, life-long Repub who would never be swayed to vote for BO by any pro-O BS, but he has believed for months that BO will be the nom b/c of what the media says. He has been impressed by Hillary during the same period and says he has a much better opinion of her than he used to, but he believes the forces of PC will get BO the nod. But if he were somehow forced to choose between him and Hillary, I know he would vote for her. His opinion of BO as a person and candidate has gotten steadily worse, so the media has convinced him of nothing except O's inevitability. And I think that only the most addled, weak-willed of voters would jump on a rickety bandwagon with wobbly wheels and a broken axle!
that if this country is ill-informed enough to elect O president (gag), he will be able to pardon his Chicago buddies, should they end up in the hoosegow. That includes Rezco and Blogjewhatever, the former gov. of Il.
We're electing the President of the United States, not some g.d. prom king.
I'm interested, donjo.
But anytime someone tries to talk about this stuff....we get "Leave Bawwack alone!!".
This guy didn't fall down on a cloud out of the heavens like so many thought. He's not pure. He got where he is the good old fashioned way. So be it. Why pretend?
No the MSM won't talk about it. Not yet. But the Repub 527's will. Those who stick their heads in the sand about all of it do so at ALL of our peril.
"Leave 'him' alone you big meanie!!"
;)
behind the curtain.
Hillary has tons of connections in Chicago area. She was raised in Park Ridge, Il. close to where I lived for 8 years. She KNOWS something is coming down, and will be revealed by August. I don't think she will bend. I have posted all the articles, as they were released.
The media reports nothing, as Axelrod worked for the 'Chicago Tribune", and has them in his back pocket $$$! The Suntimes does report more on the Rezko trial, (Novack has an OP Ed piece. (Probably keeping a lid on it, til BO is the nominee for the Dems}
Hillary I would imagine, is getting information from her friends and family, keeping her informed. They are well connected with those in Power, and wouldn't surprize me if they know those in the Attorney General (Fitz) circle. Not that she gets direct info, but people do talk. She knows what is going on, and is despartly trying to hang in there, until the curtain lifts.
Puerto Rico should give her a lift. Its going clinton..
Hang tight all!
I will be going to Fl the 30th so will miss the blog, but will be checking in. Grandson is gratuating and family calls and will be watching on the 31st and the 1st...keep blogging!
It is the Rezco connection. Rezco spotted BO as a young prospect when BO made the news at Harvard. BO was an ambitious young gun looking for all kinds of patrons and connection. Rezco invited BO and had that talk with him prior to his graduation from Harvard. BO allegedly turned down working for him. However, it was Rezco's assistant who help him get his position with the law firm that happened to be doing Rezco's real estate deals. It was Rezco who made it possible for him to get the funds that started his political career. In the grand scheme of Rezco, there was a spot for BO. This committee sat astride one of Rezco's big project with Stuart Levine (turned state witness). Under the guise of reform, the number of Board members was reduced from the harder to control number of 15 to 9. With 9, they needed only 5 to control the decision. Was BO an unwitting player? The media gave up too easily on BO's Chicago's rotten connection. I am sure there are more. These stuff are made to order for Hannity and co.
will decide who I will vote or not vote for. I respect Gen. Clark, but cannot support Obama, who has essentially split the so-called Democratic party in two. This is not my original thinking, but is becoming more and more accepted throughout blogworld. If you want to see real tone that will turn you inside out, I invite you to visit the big orange place Daily Kos and see how Hillary and Hillary supporters are treated.
If you think Obama would be any better than McCain, you're in for a big surprise. Let's hope we never have to find out.
We're electing the President of the United States, not some g.d. prom king.
because there's no parallel universe with the other in office to compare to this universe. As for the Democratic Party and its splits, consider the 1924 Convention with its fistfights, or the train wreck of the 1860 convention:
http://www.stacks.com/davesnotes/img/dn/dnNov1Cartoon.gif
Don't blame Obama for what was around long before he was born.
CTTOI, I had something to say about that on my own blog:
http://impoliticallycorrect.blogspot.com/2008/05/two-democratic-parties.html
Pringle (Part II) provides a window into the Chicago world of BO. Jarrett, chairperson of BO's much vaunted presidential finance committee, is an off-shoot of the Daley administration where she served in vital economic-related posts for eight years. The term "Combine" (out of the Rezco investigation) apparently included the Chicago administration. In the early 1990's Michelle O was hired by Jarrett as her assistant at Daley's office. (Jarrett was a deputy chief of staff to Daley) (Did BO's nascent political networking helped? Non-civil service jobs are political appointments - a common knowledge.) She followed Jarrett to the Department of Planning when Jarrett became the Commissioner. Jarrett was appointed as chairman of the University of Chicago Medical Center Board. Michelle landed a high-paying position at the hospital and right after BO's US Senate win, she was promoted to vice president for community and external affairs and her salary tripled. Valerie is reported to be part of BO's "kitchen cabinet." When Michelle took an 80% leave of absence for the campaign, her pay remained in the $200 K +. That hospital is non-profit. By the way, one of BO's US Senate earmarks went to this hospital at a time when the hospital, a non-profit organization, was reporting a lot of profit. The study of Chicago's rotten and entrenched corruption is complexed and fascinating. The outside media may not have the patience and the courage to pierce their own Obama bubble. It is easy to guess who will have the appetite and wherewithals to do this very soon. The "new" politics is what? "Old" politics born out of Chicago. That's my take, sorry.
What a shame. Guess we can't blame the MSM for everything.
:)