CNN TRANSCRIPTS: Michael Ware gave an updated reality check about Iraq!


Hello Everyone:

Michael Ware did a very informative two part interview on CNN American Morning on Monday, August 25 giving an updated reality check out Iraq and the stakes there when it comes to Iran and their influence.

Here are the two short transcripts of Michael Ware's interviews where he says that "Iran is very much in the middle of everything," "the problem is Iran has all the cards in its favor. I mean, there's very little stick with which to beat Tehran," and "The bigger picture is they're looking for advantage to press on the nuclear regime. That's the big gain here for the Iranians. So, really, yes, you need a diplomatic answer, you got to engage with Iran but somehow America is going to find a big stick:"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/25/ltm.01.html

AMERICAN MORNING

Democratic Convention Kick-Off; McCain-Obama Dead Heat in the Polls; Obama's Challenge to Win Clinton Supporters; Does Clinton's Move to Release Delegates a Sign of Party Unity?; What Obama-Biden Need to Do on Foreign Policy

Aired August 25, 2008 - 06:00 ET

KIRAN CHETRY, CNN ANCHOR: "CNN's Michael Ware is just back from Georgia, spent a ton of time in Iraq as well, and he's with us now in the studio.

Good to see you.

MICHAEL WARE, CNN BAGHDAD CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kiran. It's glad to be here.

CHETRY: Yes. I want to ask you about your thoughts on Joe Biden and the fact that he's been a long-time supporter of partitioning Iraq into three separate autonomous regions.

WARE: Yes.

CHETRY: Is that something that could and would work?

WARE: Well, madness really to be honest. I mean, as you see, when Senator Biden -- was his nomination was announced, it turned out that opposition to Senator Biden's partition policy is one thing that, you know it's the three ethnic groups in Iraq. No one is for partition unless, of course, you're an Iranian-backed political party, because I'd love to have a self-governing zone in the south that effectively would become an extension of Iran. That would really play into the hands of Tehran. So, no, that's not an effective strategy.

CHETRY: That's very interesting. When we talk about this troop plan, Barack Obama is talking about a withdrawal saying we're talking about one to two brigades, and that perhaps by 16 months we could be out. Whereas John McCain is saying we do need to still have a distinctive troop presence to fight al-Qaeda, to train Iraqis, and to protect our interests there. Which one would work better?

WARE: Well, I think only time will tell. And right now, the agreement is being threshed out in Baghdad and Washington at the moment, settles on what is it, 2011, as a full withdrawal, with U.S. troops back in their bases by June, next year. So we're sort of standing in the middle of those two policies at the moment.

The real issue here that no one is fighting and I would love to hear from Senator Obama's team about this. You can withdraw. You can withdraw tomorrow. You can withdraw in 16 months, whatever you want, as long as you're ready to pay the price.

I want to hear people acknowledge, yes, we know what the price of withdrawal is. Yes, we're willing to pay for it, and this is how we're going to deal with the long-term implications, because at the end of the day what you're doing is giving Iraq to Iran.

And you're emboldening what President Bush called, remember, the axis of evil. And don't forget, Iran sponsored Hezbollah and Lebanon, defeated the Israeli defense force. They're now back after helping America defeat the Taliban. Intel reports say they're now helping the Taliban.

So Iran is very much in the middle of everything and that's the key foreign policy issue I want to hear from the candidates. Here's the price tag for Iraq. Are you ready to pay it?

CHETRY: Very interesting. It's always good to get your perspective. Michael Ware, thanks for being with us. We'll check in with you a little bit later as well.

WARE: Thank you..."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/25/ltm.03.html

AMERICAN MORNING

New CNN Opinion Research Corporation Poll Has Senators Obama and McCain in a Dead Heat; Hillary Clinton Promising to Release Her Delegates on Wednesday; John McCain Launching New Attack Ads; Michelle Obama Speaks to Her Biggest Audience Yet

Aired August 25, 2008 - 08:00 ET

KIRAN CHETRY, CNN ANCHOR: "CNN's Michael Ware knows the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan, all too well, maybe we should say. He's back from the conflict as well in Georgia. Michael joins us now. Thanks for being with us, by the way.

I'd like to get your insight about the talk about Iraq and what to do with Iraq. And Joe Biden, when he was running for president back in 2006, he talked a lot about his plan, which was partitioning Iraq into three separate and autonomous regions. Would that work?

MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No. It doesn't have the snowflakes change that kind of a solution. I mean, for a start that plays directly into Tehran's hands. I mean, one of the big issues that has been fought out in Iraq politically is that the hard-core Iranian- backed Shia parties are trying to create a self ruling zone in the south. That would basically become a little Iran. Now, in the north, you already have a self-governing state. The Kurds in Kurdistan and they don't listen to the central government. They got their own defense force. They got their own foreign ministry. That's enough of the drama. So to try and partition it off is just going to destabilize, not just the country but will further destabilize the region. And no one supports it. It isn't going anywhere.

CHETRY: Now, you know that McCain camp has actually hammered Barack Obama a lot for calling for this timetable. Now we have the Bush administration, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice there last week hammering out what essentially is a timetable.

WARE: Yes.

CHETRY: From the Bush administration. Has the thinking changed or is it almost a matter of sort of throwing in the towel in trying to fight that issue?

WARE: Well, I think they're trying to dress it up. I mean, whatever you want to call it - failure, defeat, stalled, whatever, the mission. Basically what they're doing is just saying, well, look, the (inaudible) U.S. troops, you know, are faring much, much better. The sectarian violence is way, way down. It all looks hunky-dory. So, OK, we're able to go, start winding back and calling it a win. That's smoke and mirrors.

Underlying all this of this is the fact that Iran has a much greater influence in that country and thereby increasing its influence in the region, anti-American influence than they did before the American invasion. There's enormous implications for this kind of withdrawal. You can do it, but just accept what it's going to cost you. And they tell us, what are you going to do about it?

CHETRY: Well, you talk about that in the last hour as well, that there has to be some sort of acknowledgment about Iranian influence. Is that a diplomatic - is that a window for a diplomatic solution or is that something that needs to have military might behind it and who might be better at trying to juggle that?

WARE: Well, there is no diplomacy with that military at the end of the day. (inaudible) politics find other means. I mean, the problem is Iran has all the cards in its favor. I mean, there's very little stick with which to beat Tehran. And, for example, for the last - since the end of last year, those American troops who have died in Iraq, most of them died at the hands of Iranian-backed militias, not Al Qaeda, not the Suni insurgency. And what's this all about? We don't need to destabilize Iraq nor is it to bog U.S. troops out. The bigger picture is they're looking for advantage to press on the nuclear regime. That's the big gain here for the Iranians. So, really, yes, you need a diplomatic answer, you got to engage with Iran but somehow America is going to find a big stick.

CHETRY: All right. Michael Ware, thanks so much for being with us.

WARE: It's great pleasure. Thank you, Kiran..."

I wish that Iraq and Iran's influence there were getting more news coverage right now because this will probably be among the top complex foreign policy issues which the next President will have to deal with!

I also wish that CNN made videos of all of Michael Ware's interviews because in my opinion he is one of the most informative, credible, and objective journalists in the business when it comes to reporting about international affairs and he is definitely worth listening to!

Here is the search link to access the videos that CNN has put up of some of Michael Ware's past reports and also to see any of his new reports which they decide to put on video in the future:

http://search.cnn.com/search?query=michael%20ware&type=video&sortBy=date&intl=false

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AMERICAN MORNING

Hillary Clinton Calls for Party Unity; Bill Clinton to Speak Tonight; Day Three Preview

Aired August 27, 2008 - 08:00 ET

KIRAN CHETRY, CNN ANCHOR: "There's a new CNN Opinion Research Poll, though, that suggests Americans actually think John McCain is the better man for the job in Iraq. 53 percent of voters saying McCain would better handle the situation in Iraq compared to 44 percent for Obama.

So, whether it's Barack Obama or John McCain in the White House come January, the war in Iraq and other potential -- another potential Cold War with Russia will be at the top of America's foreign policy agenda. And CNN's Michael Ware spent a lot of time in Iraq. He joins us here in studio.

It is interesting when you look at those polls because the majority of Americans do think, you know, it's time to get out. Yet, when you ask who's going to handle it better, it's John McCain. What are you hearing from some of the military leaders behind closed doors about, you know, what their dream plan would be?

MICHAEL WARE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, obviously, senior American commanders play their cards close to their chest when it comes to politics because they know they do not operate in a vacuum. Even in a war, politics is very much a part of it. Now, what I can tell you is that from a military man's point of view, it's more of a McCain tendency in the sense of we stay, we consolidate, and we let conditions on the ground tell us when we go, when we add on, when we subtract.

However, I can tell you that the military itself is much more broad-minded on issues like engagement with some of the countries in the region or other groups. For example, it's the military who started talking to the Ba'athist insurgency. It's the military who's got the Ba'athist insurgency now on the payroll -- 110,000 plus insurgents on the U.S. government payroll. So, it's a little bit of both.

(CROSSTALK)

CHETRY: (INAUDIBLE) should the big reason for the sectarian violence drop?

WARE: Absolutely. And it's also done in a whole number of things doing that. Basically, it's an American militia to counter the Iranian militias and also keeps your very troubled Arab allies much happier because they now feel they have a stake in Iraq.

CHETRY: So what happens when we leave? Do those Ba'athists still continue to be able to be that countermeasure?

WARE: That is a huge question. Now, you get lip service from the government in Baghdad about maintaining the program, developing it, this, that and the other. But from day one, the Shiite-dominated Iranian-backed central government hated this program, came out and openly attacked it. Now, American commanders say that, well, they've matured in their attitude, they're more embracing.

What do we see just a few days ago? The government hunting down some of these U.S.-paid security people who were former insurgents and arresting or killing them. I mean, these guys are not hiding their true intention in the government. They have come to these blows.

CHETRY: That, of course, as we know, is a huge challenge that either of these two men will inherit as president. Another one, though, is the Russia situation. And what we saw between Russian and Georgia and some of the comments by Russia's president about a Cold War.

Are we facing the real distinct possibility of entering into another Cold War with this very powerful and it seems a little bit aggressive country?

WARE: Yes. Well, I think -- you know, it's very easy for people to band around the rhetoric at the moment, from Moscow to Washington to Tbilisi. And Cold War in the sense that we all grew up knowing it, I suspect not. But a new kind of international dynamic with an opposing force from Russia, expansive, aggressive, wanting descent -- absolutely.

And we're going to see it across all sorts of fronts. For example, what happened in Georgia is not unrelated to the fact that Russia is helping Iran with its nuclear program. And that America needs Russia's help in the Security Council to sanctions or other measures against Tehran. And the Russians deny that. So, they need it when they went into Georgia. There was only so much America can do because Georgia here but they know that America needs Russia over here.

CHETRY: It was very interesting here. And delicate diplomatic dance as well on that front. A lot of problems.

WARE: Oh, yes.

CHETRY: That's why we're glad we have you with the insight. Thanks, Michael Ware. Good to see you as always.

WARE: Great pleasure..."

Submitted by CentralMass on August 27, 2008 - 4:39pm.

Here is a link to Michael Wares site where he dicusses the undeniable success of the surge.

 

http://www.mickware.info/IraqNow/Iraq2008/files/430bf6f679772c1799fce43d48ecb27e-44.html

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 28, 2008 - 11:43am.

Hi CentralMass:

Thank you very much for that informative link to Michael Ware, I was not aware of it before.

I will definitely be keeping that link on file!

Mitch

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 28, 2008 - 1:45pm.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/28/ltm.03.html

AMERICAN MORNING

Michelle Obama on Being Future First Lady; Joe Biden's Background; Gustav Tears Through Caribbean

Aired August 28, 2008 - 08:00 ET

KIRAN CHETRY, CNN ANCHOR: "You know, we just saw Joe Biden hitting his rival hard on national security issues. But what did Biden offer last night in terms of foreign policy? Here to help us take a critical look is CNN's Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware. He just got back as well from the Republic of Georgia and gives us his perspective.

Thanks for being with us. You know, it's interesting because there are things that just sort of become a roll off the tongue as you're covering the conventions and the debates and really the race in itself. And a lot of people have said these foreign policy credentials of Joe Biden, how is that playing though with some of the foreign leaders that you've talk to in terms of whether or not he has the right ideas for big things like Iran and Iraq?

MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, ideas are not -- their relative value of his policies are not, is at least one thing that I know that assuages foreign leaders and foreign governments. They know Joe Biden. He's a known quantity to them. So agree, disagree with an American policy is assisting say a particular nation, it doesn't matter. At least they know what they're getting. They know that they can engage.

CHETRY: They don't want any surprises.

WARE: Well, I'm sure Senator Biden or Vice president Biden should that happen will always have a surprise or two up his sleeve. But nonetheless, he's a known player, he's been around the block, and he's someone that people can confidently feel they can engage with. And like I bumped into him in Pakistan, in Baghdad --

CHETRY: He's been around.

WARE: -- and in Georgia, so he's been around almost as much as we have.

CHETRY: Two interesting things though. He loudly criticized Bush's foreign policy in Iraq. He was against the surge.

WARE: Yes.

CHETRY: And he also was for -- he put forth this plan of partitioning Iraq. Those are two things that haven't really turned out to be something that Iraq was into, either partitioning or drawing down troops at a time they felt they needed more.

WARE: Right. So he's always had his view of what should happen in Iraq. Now, some of his policies, you could eagerly debate. And like last night in his speech, I guess a political convention is not the place where you expect to hear detail, but I was struck by the fact that there was nothing with regard to the foreign policy issues that was new or gave us any more sense of where this ticket will be going. I mean, to say that, yes, Senator Obama was right and McCain was wrong, Obama was right and McCain was wrong. But then not to say, well, here is something new.

For example, saying I would love to hear, right, we're going to draw down our troops but we know that that has made Iran stronger, that we know that we have terrified our Arab allies and we know that we left the Sunnis vulnerable in Iraq, who we've built into a militia and now, once we leave, we'll make them more vulnerable again to al Qaeda. But this is how we'll manage that. That's what we didn't hear.

CHETRY: You want to hear more answers, more details about what happens after the withdrawal takes place.

WARE: Absolutely. Right. The focus is on getting the boys home. And look, who can blame anyone. But no one is talking about the consequences and no one is talking about how we'll fix that. So there's a price tag to bringing the boys home. Let's hear them talk about how we're going to pay that.

CHETRY: All right. Michael Ware, great to see you, always. Thanks.

WARE: So early. Thank you, Kiran.

CHETRY: It's not early. It's 8:30 East Coast.

WARE: It doesn't feel like it

CHETRY: We're more than two and a half hours. Michael, thanks.

WARE: Thank you..."

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