Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:00:03 -0400

Submitted by madspawn on August 30, 2008 - 9:28am.

General Wesley Clark
Remarks On Twenty Year Vision For America
Manchester, NH
January 10, 2004

We'll still need our armed forces and we'll take every necessary action to make America safe — but we'll gain that safety not by force of arms, but by who we are and what we represent. For we should be an America not puffed up by pride in our own power, but rather an America humbled by the recognition of our common humanity. We must make sure that globalization helps people around the world, raising living standards and improving the environment everywhere — rather than leading a race to the bottom.

The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. ~Gloria Steinem

I interrupt this thread for a sensory treat.

Submitted by PAforClark on August 30, 2008 - 2:35pm.

Tollhouse cookies baking in the oven and cooling on the kitchen counter.

Oh, the smell...!

"It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and one to hear." - Henry David Thoreau

Aroma?

Submitted by Ellen on August 30, 2008 - 2:55pm.

Fragrance?

Thanks, I'll have 3!

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Got milk?

Submitted by PAforClark on August 30, 2008 - 3:19pm.

"It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and one to hear." - Henry David Thoreau

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I'm packing up

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on August 30, 2008 - 3:12pm.

to go to PA's house!

Who's with me?

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I'm coming your direction on Monday to take the boy

Submitted by PAforClark on August 30, 2008 - 3:20pm.

back to school. Not looking forward to being on the highway on Labor Day and hope the rest of you stay at home!

Cookies are going to Indiana, too...

"It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and one to hear." - Henry David Thoreau

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Safe travels

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on August 30, 2008 - 3:29pm.

And don't eat all the cookies before he gets there. :)

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ME, ME, Pam!

Submitted by Ellen on August 30, 2008 - 7:16pm.

Oh Gee, I'm in Fl; prolly can't make it in time!

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I bet they eat them all

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on August 30, 2008 - 7:19pm.

before they get to the Ohio boarder. ;p

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FEMA

Submitted by Barry_NJ on August 30, 2008 - 3:50pm.

On a different note, at least a couple of networks sent out alerts that Hurricane Gustav was a category 5 - that is not true. A FEMA official was being interviewed and incorrectly stated that it was category 5. In fact its a category 4 and just reaching western Cuba. By Monday it should reach the Gulf Coast somewhere along the LA coast or maybe the Texas coast.

Barry
Are you safer today than you were seven years ago?^©

barry, first keep FEMA the f out of NOLA!

Submitted by bill on August 30, 2008 - 3:53pm.

good to see the evacuation started early

FEMA=BU$H=BROWNIE=0

Bill (from RI)

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Re: first keep FEMA the f out of NOLA!

Submitted by Barry_NJ on August 30, 2008 - 4:15pm.

That's just the problem, FEMA is already in NOLA. It was the head of FEMA who "misspoke" calling Gustav a category 5. Gustav is going to hit our coast somewhere and its very likely it will be a major hurricane when it does so everyone might consider getting out of NOLA (and many are evacuating today), but if FEMA wants to stay that's fine with me. :)

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maybe FEMA brought the ice this time?

Submitted by bill on August 30, 2008 - 4:38pm.

Bill (from RI)

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Re: maybe FEMA brought the ice this time?

Submitted by Barry_NJ on August 30, 2008 - 4:40pm.

It looks like the Scotch has arrived but I haven't been able to confirm the ice yet. :)

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Glad Someone's clear thinking!

Submitted by Ellen on August 30, 2008 - 7:13pm.

Surf choppy with ripcurrents, at Deerfield Beach, FL; winds were at 20 mph, from the east, fwiw.