Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:00:02 -0400
Interesting it happens to be on the day of the first Obama/Mccain debate.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
This should be great!
We should all write to C-SPAN and ask them to cover it. Anybody have the addresses handy? If not, I can look them up.
In fact, any one here who is active at DU and dKOS should post this over there and ask people THERE to write C-SPAN.
I think a whole lot of Democrats, not just Clarkies, would pay money to see this.
All his "hard work" trying to become president...all those years, blown away for a fling. God I feel for Elizabeth...for him, not so much.
BUFFALO, N.Y. - The tickets say "Rove-Edwards," but now a debate at the University of Buffalo will feature Karl Rove and General Wesley Clark after John Edwards cancelled all public engagements until after the November election.
The UB Distinguished Speakers Series election debate is scheduled for 8 p.m. Sept. 26 in Alumni Arena on the university's Amherst campus.
In 2004, Clark was a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination. He was the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe for NATO from 1997 to 2000.
He will share the stage with Rove, former White House Deputy chief of staff and senior advisor to President George W. Bush.
Edwards cancelled an appearance at Hofstra University on Thursday as well as future bookings, extending an exile that began last month after he admitted to an extramarital affair.
Write C-Span here:
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--seems like faxing is best, but I'll use the
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How many think Rover will come up with an excuse to back out of this now that he'll be up against our General and not SOMW? LOL!!!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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And their main number: (202) 737-3220
Let's try them all! And maybe space them out over the next couple weeks.
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”
This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.
“It was kind of disgusting,” Lucille, who is part Aboriginal, said in a phone interview after admitting that she is frightened of being discovered telling folks in the “lower 48” about life near the North Pole.
Then, almost with a sigh, she added, “But that’s just Alaska.”
Racial and ethnic slurs may be “just Alaska” and, clearly, they are common, everyday chatter for Palin.
Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colourful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article.
(snip)
On a more practical level, many people in Alaska, and particularly Wasilla, are reluctant to speak or be quoted by name because they’re afraid of her as well as the state Republican Party machine. Apparently, the power elite are as mean as the winters.
“The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here,” an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. “It’s corrupt and arrogant. They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
but your opinion is duly noted.
It will be interesting to see if more stories like this start to come out and are corroborated by others. My hunch is they will be, given her cultural mindset and the fact she was never really vetted.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
ahhhhhh. sigh.
deep breathing... Reminds me of the late great Bill Hicks in his routine where he says of a person who believes that dinosaur tracks do not eliminate the story of the world being created in 7 days "because God put the tracks there to test our faith- like a little inside joke.
Hicks says, "No, Dude! I think God put you here to test my faith!!!!!!!
wink
Until then, it's just a single witness account. Much like the Repubs do all the time to our guys (I'm remembering those letters from "troops" from when Obama was in Afghanistan). Doesn't make it right, of course.
It's hard to believe that Palin is too much of a bigot, since her husband is half (or is it a quarter?) Y'upiq aboriginal.
But it has been my experience that a lot of right-wingers like to be as crude as possible when it comes racist/sexist and what they would call "PC" remarks. It's sort a badge of courage for them.
to avoid backyard gossip and stick to the facts and at least semi-serious opinion.
None of the Above; Wes Clark Secretary of State!.
but nobody here is going to determine what is "at least semi-serious opinion."
Free speech always gets to the truth in the most direct route possible.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
it's just about as bad as anything I've seen on some far-right sites about Democratic candidates. Then I decided to let it stand (along with the post the other night about family size) for future reference.
It continues to pile up.
Paul, that doesn't mean what you think it does.
...did you read about that woman (Arlington, TX) who found an image of the Virgin Mary on a grape and is considering selling it on ebay?
I think I need to go out to a nearby ranch and see if I can find similar miracles embedded within cow chips (for you Yankees out there, that's dried cow patties - aka manure) and make a fortune on ebay also.
what the Virgin Mary looked like? Do they have photographs?
None of the Above; America nneeds Wes Clark as Secretary of State!.
Todd Palin's mother, a former secretary of the Alaska Federation of Natives, is one-quarter Yup'ik, and his maternal grandmother, Lena Andre, is a member of the Curyung tribe.
Sadly there are people (a lot of them showed up at the Repub convention) who would laugh right along with her lunchmates.
This is what America has to look "forward" to if McCain/Palin should somehow win (or steal) this election.
We MUST NOT let that happen.
What total PUKES!
Um I never claimed to be the arbiter of the community standards here or whatever & I'm certainly not an admin.
As for "the anonymous source" "who asked that her last name not be used" "Lucille" "an aboriginal?" "frightened of being discovered"- that pathetic type of rumormongering doesn't even meet the new Daily Kos sub-standards, from where I sit.
While I don't doubt that the people I've seen onstage & on video this season certainly share Left Blogistan's meaner impulses "What total PUKES!" in terms of private humor, from Former Democratic National Committee Chairman Don Fowler caught on tape saying about the timing of the arrival of Gustav "That just demonstrates God is on our side” with the opening of the Republican National Convention to McCain snickering about someone calling Hillary a bitch to Andrew Sullivan's twisted allegations to Obama's bitter gun toters of Western Pennsylvania- should such rumors, when they are only transparent anonymous rumors designed to stoke some kind of race based - tensions? really be given honorary wings here simply because one approves the target? Evidence would help. Allegations, not so much.
Seems like there is plenty for anyone willing, able & inclined to go after Palin to go after just her recent speech.
I have to imagine Sarah Palin or an aide keeps a detailed daybook, even just for expenses. I'm sure she's dispatching agents right now to find this frightened waitress, not.
If it was on tape, it should be on the evening news. If it is a made up story, we should disavow it.
The Macaca scandal stuck because it was true to the nature of the man. If someone is long married to a part Eskimo native American & has a child with Down's Syndrome etc. that sort of reality based thing seems to speak in another direction.
Just my .02, as you had yours.
For a second there, I thought this was Daily Kos. Posts like that are commonplace there. Here, not so much.
I always thought there was a certain level of decorum at CCN. Yoikes.
The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off. ~Gloria Steinem
yeppers. Possibly even worse due to Alaska's rather isolated location, and the influence of the big oil companies. It definitely isn't an example of democracy up there.
Sarah Palin'speech: 40,000,000 viewers.
Barrack Obama's speech: 38,000,000 viewers.
Winner: Sarah Palin with a new record.
None of the Above; America needs Wes Clark as Secretary of State!.
For those of you not adverse to a little raucous and perhaps even at times "inappropriate" political humor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-QevraCQUc
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
I would guess there is still much to be discovered about Mrs. Palin. Some will no doubt be rumors, some will be true. There will be opinions for and opinions against.
My brother-in-law spent a couple of decades on the North Slope. He used to talk about how "tough" the folk there saw themselves to be...independent, rugged, didn't need nobody, by God.
Does Rove really have the cahones to show up, or will he send a minon?
Will I get kicked out for wearing a Valerie Plame Rocks t-shirt & a hat that says : FROGMARCH!
That would be hilarious...the t-shirt and the hat that is. No reason to kick anyone out unless there's a strict dress code. heh
Sources Tell ABC News that Report Will Be Released Almost Three Weeks Early
By LEN TEPPER
September 5, 2008—
ABC News has exclusively learned that Alaska Senator Hollis French will announce today that he is moving up the release date of his investigation into whether Gov. Sarah Palin abused her office to get the Alaska public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, fired. The results of the investigation were originally scheduled for release Oct. 31 but will now come almost three weeks earlier, according to sources.
The announcement is set for 9 a.m. AKDT time.
The Alaska state senator running an investigation of Gov. Palin had accused the McCain campaign of using stall tactics to prevent him from releasing his final report by Oct. 31, four days before the November election.
"It's likely to be damaging to the Governor's administration," said Senator Hollis French, a Democrat, appointed the project manager for a bi-partisan State Senate Legislative Counsel Committee investigation.
Palin, who has denied any wrongdoing and has said she has nothing to hide, has hired private lawyers to represent her in the matter.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=5734511
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
I'm pissed is what I am, and I despise what she represents. I care deeply about this country and the dangers of the McCain/Palin ticket. She is a threat to America far greater than even the last 8 years.
The risk and the danger is real.
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
and set out, I think it was his tax position, that he looked into the camera and said, "this if for you Karl Rove"?
Norbert & I both laughed at that one.
dictated the ghostly memos & RNC talking points, imitating Rove! He had a whole comic routine about it... I know ms blogged that.
Clark Calls Out Rove with Bold Tax Reform Plan
08-Jan-04
Wesley Clark
L.A. Times: "Retired Gen. Wesley K. Clark on Monday unveiled the most sweeping tax-reform plan of any of the Democratic presidential hopefuls ... Under Clark's proposal, a family of four making up to $50,000 a year would pay no federal income tax at all, and all families with children making up to $100,000 would see a reduction in their tax bill. The retired four-star general says he would offset the loss in tax revenue by asking millionaires to pay more.... Mindful that conservatives might criticize his plan as that of a tax-and-spend Democrat, Clark took them on directly, specifically Bush political advisor Karl Rove.
'Karl, I want you to hear me loud and clear,' Clark said. 'I am going to provide tax cuts to ease the burdens for 31 million American families, ... If that makes me an old-style Democrat, then I accept that label with pride and dare you to come after me for it.'"
Looks like Fannie and Freddie are going to be taken over by us the taxpayers...
"WASHINGTON — Senior officials from the Bush administration and the Federal Reserve on Friday informed top executives of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the mortgage finance giants, that the government was preparing to seize the two companies and place them in a conservatorship, officials and company executives briefed on the discussions said."
"It takes two to speak the truth - one to speak and one to hear." - Henry David Thoreau
Yesterday:
"I fought tobacco companies and trial lawyers, drug companies and union bosses...Sen. Obama wants our schools to answer to unions and entrenched bureaucracies."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=94302894
Today:
McCain noted that Palin's husband is a member of the United Steel Workers union, and told the officers that they "are at the front lines of our cites and towns — you know the challenges we face."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/09/05/politics/p103912D00.DTL&tsp=1
"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism"
Clarkie since Summer, 2003
Teachers in the public arena are essentially public servants as educators, and should be accountable to parents and students. This goes for all unions of civil service employees - ultimately, they are responsible to the public which they have chosen to serve. I have no problem with the unions protecting teachers rights and pay issues.
However, a steel worker (or carpenter or plumber or painter or actor or writer, etc.) is employed by a corporate entity - and answers to the boss or bosses.
I see the difference. Not advocating for anyone, but just looking for some intellectual honesty.
and parents should be accountable to their children and children's teachers as well. Talk to any teacher; without parental involvement and discipline for attendance and learning, the teachers are fighting an uphill battle.
I have friends who teach in private schools and public schools here in Chicago. The differences in approach are astounding. Private schools make parental involvement mandatory, and teachers are also required to act as mentors/counselors to a group of students each year.
Public school teachers, even in the (rapidly shrinking) upper middle and middle class neighborhoods do not have any support in place that requires such dedication from the parents. And the teachers are required to achieve standards that are difficult to meet when faced with an over-crowded classroom, lack of discipline and no commitment or backup from the administration.
Quite the quandary. You may have heard recently of our own Rev. Meeks and his Chicago School boycott. Claims the whole problem is funding. Alot of the school funding problem stems from Daley's TIF (tax increment financing) fund (aka: biggest slush fund in the world and a developers wet dream.) Property taxes are supposed to fund our schools; despite almost yearly increases in those taxes, we send a (large) portion of those taxes we pay go straight into Mayor Richies pet funding project, the TIF. You can read some about it here - from an article penned in '05 -
http://www.chicagoreader.com/tifarchive/050204/
If you're really interested in seeing how Chicago operates it favorite money scheme, feel free to wander through the archives here:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/tifarchive/
It's gonna last forever. Our pols are entrenched.
See how they stack up against each other for the big debate!
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16489
And learn some funny coincidences along the way.
Were there Clarkies there? Any reports? I hope Wes gets to see the grandkids while he's out there in California. :)
Google alert...haven't even read it yet lol.