Video & Transcript: Rick Sanchez of CNN bluntly said to FOX News "You lie"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on September 19, 2009 - 6:29am.
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Hello Everyone:
FOX News ran this false and very deceptive ad in The Washington Post on Friday, September 18 (open up this link to see the ad):
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/105636/original.jpg
I was thrilled to see Rick Sanchez of CNN call out FOX News on this false ad, say to them "You lie," and demand an apology. Here is the youTube video to watch Rick Sanchez tangibly exposing FOX News:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1f5xrOfGU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM1f5xrOfGU
CNN's Rick Sanchez Calls FOX News Liars (6:42)
News1News
September 18, 2009
"CNN's Rick Sanchez Calls FOX News Liars For Their Ad Saying CNN Did Not Cover The Washington DC Tea Party - 09/18/09"
Here is the portion of the CNN transcript of this video where Rick Sanchez in my opinion gave FOX News a much needed lesson explaining what the difference is between covering an event and promoting an event, where he demanded an apology from FOX News, and where he said about FOX News "You lie:"
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/18/cnr.07.html
CNN NEWSROOM
New Locations Searched in Terror Probe; Eating Well on a Budget
Aired September 18, 2009 - 15:00 ET
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: "Here's the fact. We did cover the event. What we didn't do is promote the event, just like when thousands marched on Washington to protest the war in Iraq, we covered it as well, probably less than we covered this event. But we didn't promote it.
Bottom line is, we do cover the news. And we did extensively cover this event. We didn't promote the event. That's not what real news organizations are supposed to do. We covered the event.
I would invite you to look into that distinction between those two words, promote and cover. Cover is kind of like a fair and balanced way of doing things. You get it? You might want to look into that.
It's about letting Americans make up their own minds. Let me cut to the chase. When thousands of Americans showed up at the nation's capital to protest big government, we covered it with four correspondents, two satellite trucks, multiple live interviews, lawmakers on the record, and conversations with attendees.
By the way, we put a call into FOX News for a comment, and we expect an apology. But we're still waiting.
Let me address the FOX News Network now perhaps the most current way that I can, by quoting somebody who recently used a very pithy phrase, two words. It's all I need: You lie..."
Right below is the full CNN transcript of the entire YouTube video from Friday, September 18.
I definitely think that blatant incidents in the media such as this false ad from FOX News have to be exposed and documented. I have always done this with any media outlet regardless of who they are:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16713
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http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16746
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While I am glad that CNN exposed the false ad from FOX News and while I think that CNN is the most credible cable news network when compared to the far right at FOX News and the far left at MSNBC, I really wish that CNN would get rid of Jack Cafferty and Roland Martin who are so openly partisan that I do not recognize either one of them as being objective or credible commentators. Both of them would probably feel much more at home doing commentary for the far left wing evening anchors at MSNBC and I think that CNN would help their own credibility by getting rid of them but that is just my own opinion!
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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/18/cnr.07.html
CNN NEWSROOM
New Locations Searched in Terror Probe; Eating Well on a Budget
Aired September 18, 2009 - 15:00 ET
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: "And I welcome you back. I'm Rick Sanchez here in the world headquarters of CNN.
All right, there's something that I got to tell you now. If you watch this show every day, as I mentioned a while ago, you know that I usually don't suffer fools gladly, especially when it comes to the fools who perpetuate falsehoods.
Well, today, thousands of you flipped through the pages of "The Washington Post" only to come across a lie so bold and so upsetting that, frankly, I'm just not going to sit here in silence and allow my craft or my news operation to be unfairly maligned, because enough is enough.
And, yes, I'm talking to you, FOX News, you, who claim to be fair and balanced. At what, I wonder? You know, I don't know, but I have got a couple ideas.
FOX News (INAUDIBLE) color ad today. It asks: "How did ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN miss this?" They are referring to the picture there of the tea party protest in the nation's capital last Saturday.
They are saying that we missed this story. They are saying we did not cover this story. They are using a lie to try and divide people into camps. And, you know, Americans are starting to get tired of this.
Look at the bottom of the ad there, where it says, "We cover all the news."
Really? You do? What, we don't?
You know, that's an offense to myself and to my colleagues, who risk their lives for our viewers in Iraq and Afghanistan and around the world to bring the news. You're actually telling people that we didn't cover a rally on Washington. Really?
Rog, roll the tape.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Tea party march and rally happening in Washington.
Our Paul Steinhauser is there with what appears to be a whole lot of friends gathering around you now.
PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: And about two hours from now, they're going to march behind us down Pennsylvania Avenue to the U.S. Capitol, and that's where they will gather, at the west front of the Capitol.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: OK, what was that? Was that like made-up video? Am I crazy or did I just watch CNN's Paul Steinhauser covering the story?
You want more? Here's more.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Want to check in again with CNN's Kate Bolduan live at the Capitol.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we came down because we heard that there were actually so many people still stuck on Pennsylvania Avenue here trying to make it, too. As you can see, the people are all still coming from Freedom Plaza.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: All right, that was CNN's Kate Bolduan. Here's another one.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FREDRICKA WHITFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: We're joined now by CNN Radio Capitol Hill correspondent Lisa Desjardins.
LISA DESJARDINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: What do you think of Congressman Joe Wilson?
(CHEERING AND APPLAUSE)
DESJARDINS: See? So there are people here who very strongly support Congressman Wilson, Fredricka, and many of them are right here.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: I don't know. Call me crazy, but that sure looked like our CNN Radio's Lisa Desjardins.
One last one from our own Jim Spellman, who followed and covered 30 rallies, 30 rallies along the Tea Party Express route, from coast to coast the last couple of weeks. Here it is.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: CNN all platform Jim Spellman traveled with the Tea Party Express as it made its way across the country.
JIM SPELLMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The bulk of the people that are there for low taxes, less government control, but there really is an element that's got these kind of outlandish conspiracy theories about death camps about this takeover, people comparing President Obama to Hitler. And it really is a sizable thread. It's not just a couple of people on the edges.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: All right, I want you to see more proof now. And this is really just an unbelievable coincidence that I want you to see.
You see that picture in the ad that they took out? OK, pay attention to that picture right there on the right. That's the ad that they took out saying we didn't cover the event. All right, now, keep an eye on that picture right there. You see the Canadian flag? That's on their ad. You see the Canadian flag right there at the bottom?
All right, let me show you this. You see the thing on the left now? That's our tower cam shot of the event that we used repeatedly throughout those shows.
Funny how you can say that we didn't cover an event by using that picture, that picture that looks an awful lot like our tower cam shot, doesn't it? And you used it in your ad saying we didn't cover the story.
By the way, if you want even more proof of our coverage, maybe you should just watch your own shows. Here's a good one maybe you should watch. There is a show on FOX News. It's called "The O'Reilly Factor." You heard of it?
Here's Bill O'Reilly doing a segment called "Reality Check."
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "THE O'REILLY FACTOR")
BILL O'REILLY, HOST, "THE O'REILLY FACTOR": CNN, as we mentioned, covered the anti-Obama protests, of course, but ran into a little trouble.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: CNN covered the event. There it is. This is Bill O'Reilly showing us covering a story you say we didn't cover. Let me give that to you again. That was Bill O'Reilly showing CNN's coverage of a story that FOX News says we didn't cover. Hmm. Can you see -- can you say reality checkmate?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, "THE O'REILLY FACTOR")
O'REILLY: CNN, as we mentioned, covered the anti-Obama protests, of course, but ran into a little trouble.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: Here's the fact. We did cover the event. What we didn't do is promote the event, just like when thousands marched on Washington to protest the war in Iraq, we covered it as well, probably less than we covered this event. But we didn't promote it.
Bottom line is, we do cover the news. And we did extensively cover this event. We didn't promote the event. That's not what real news organizations are supposed to do. We covered the event.
I would invite you to look into that distinction between those two words, promote and cover. Cover is kind of like a fair and balanced way of doing things. You get it? You might want to look into that.
It's about letting Americans make up their own minds. Let me cut to the chase. When thousands of Americans showed up at the nation's capital to protest big government, we covered it with four correspondents, two satellite trucks, multiple live interviews, lawmakers on the record, and conversations with attendees.
By the way, we put a call into FOX News for a comment, and we expect an apology. But we're still waiting.
Let me address the FOX News Network now perhaps the most current way that I can, by quoting somebody who recently used a very pithy phrase, two words. It's all I need: You lie.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
SANCHEZ: Wow, a lot of response from you already. That didn't take very long. Let's go to our Twitter board, we possibly can.
"Not only did I watch the tea party on CNN. I went to D.C. rally, had no problem finding a parking space. Crowd small."
"CNN needs to put out an ad. How did FOX News miss all the other networks that covered that same news?"
And then let's go over here to MySpace. Then we will get another one for you. "Hey, Rick, nail them. A lack of integrity is so pervasive in our culture and is a trend that should be reversed. Many people take their cues from media outlets. I commend your efforts to raise the bar."
My thanks to you. We will continue to share your responses..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfMZFHJgxWo&feature=player_embedded
Campbell Brown Slams Fox Ad: They Forget There is a Different Between Covering and Promotion (3:17)
RagingLib
September 18, 2009
"(Via http://www.mediamatters.org ) Campbell Brown on Fox ad- "Sometimes they do forget there is a difference between covering an event and promoting it"."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfMZFHJgxWo&feature=player_embedded
Here is the CNN transcript of this YouTube video along with what several CNN reporters who covered "last Saturday's massive tea party protest in Washington" said about FOX News right after Campbell Brown's report:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/18/ec.01.html
CAMPBELL BROWN
Presidential Media Blitz; Who Is Yale Murder Suspect?
Aired September 18, 2009 - 20:00 ET
CAMPBELL BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: "Plus, we usually like to stay out of the way when certain cable channels take cheap shots, but, tonight, we're standing up to a flat- out lie being told about CNN by the FOX News Channel. It involves something you saw on this network many times in recent days.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BROWN: We want to take a moment right now to clear up some misinformation being spread by the good folks over at FOX News. Look at what I saw when I opened my newspaper this morning. This is a FOX News ad saying CNN -- quote -- "missed" last Saturday's massive tea party protest in Washington, implying we didn't cover it at all.
Well, that's just not the case. I was watching on Saturday, our team was all over that story. We had four reporters there. There were two live trucks and more than a dozen staffers. Heck, we even sent the CNN Express. Check it out.
But, wow, this is a big ad. FOX wouldn't have just made this up, right? Or would they? Hmm.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The tea party express in today with a march on Washington.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are at Freedom Plaza, just a few blocks from the White House. This is where they're going to gather, and later this morning, they're going to leave from here and march down Pennsylvania Avenue to the U.S. Capitol.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our political correspondents have got this thing covered for us today, and there they are.
BETTY NGUYEN, CNN ANCHOR: Oh, yes. We are in all corners of it on the nation's capitol.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This crowd has been growing, as you mention, by the minute. In about an hour from now, they're going to march directly down Pennsylvania Avenue behind me to the U.S. Capitol. They're going to go to the west front. That's where Kate Bolduan is.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Pardon me if you can't hear me. They're getting -- it's getting (INAUDIBLE) off and it's getting loud.
LISA DESJARDINS, CNN RADIO CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT: It's alright. You can hear me. This crowd is not just here about health care, but they're here about a lot of issues that they're obviously upset about. Right now, they're chanting "speak out the truth." They've been talking a lot to me about what they think CNN --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm proud to be here representing America, the constitution, and everything that we love so dearly.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are Republicans, Democrats, independents, who finally decided, enough is enough.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm just proud to be a part of this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The crowds keep getting larger.
DESJARDINS: I got a question.
JIM SPELLMAN, CNN ALL PLATFORM JOURNALIST: If most of the people that are there for low taxes, less government control, but there really is an element that got these kind of outlandish conspiracy theories about death camps and about, you know, this takeover, people comparing President Obama to Hitler. It really is a sizable threat. It's not just a couple of people on the edges.
VOICE OF T.J. HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: These folks are tired of being taxed, they're tired of this government, and they're not too happy about some of the big health care reform plans out there and they're letting their voices be heard.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
BROWN: Well, what do you know about that, apparently, CNN was there. Still, we can understand the confusion over at FOX. It may be tough for them to recognize actual reporting. Sometimes they do forget there is a difference between covering an event and promoting it.
Saturday's march was a major news event. CNN covers major news events. It's what we do. It's why we're here. So to think that we'd "miss something that big," well, that's just ridiculous.
Let me also add, the FOX ad sends a false message that we at CNN are not listening to a whole lot of people out there, that their views somehow don't matter to us, and that their events don't merit our attention. And that's also just not true. When we cover a story, we try to present all sides of an issue. We approach our coverage without bias and tell you what you need to know, not just what we think you want to hear. And that's why we're all over those protests on Saturday.
And right now, I do want to bring in three of the CNN journalists who were there, who reported the day's event, Kate Bolduan, Jim Spellman, Lisa Desjardins, all joining us right now.
And, Kate, you were there. You were at the rally all day. What did you think when you saw that FOX ad?
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: To be honest, I mean, you opened it up and at first I laughed because it was just wrong, I mean. And then, I looked for an asterisk, honestly, to see it say, oh, wait, actually we were all over it. We were reporting it.
I mean, I was there starting at 9:00 a.m. My live shot started at 10:00 a.m., throughout the day. My last live shot was after the rally was over and people had left, and I did a follow-up piece the next day.
I mean, we can talk about whatever we want to talk about, but the simple fact is, the ad was wrong, and as you mentioned Campbell, so prominently placed. It's such a massive ad. It's just disappointing and frustrating from our perspective as journalists when we're reporting a story to see that misleading print be out there.
BROWN: And, Kate, you were actually standing right next to a FOX crew for most of the day, weren't you? BOLDUAN: Absolutely. I mean, we were on the podium, we were in the crowd, and for part of the day, right next to the FOX crew. So I'm sure if whoever was behind us advertisement had spoken to their crew on the ground, they would have gotten exactly what the truth was. We were there. Many people were there.
As you said, this is a big story to cover, and that's why we were there. Big concerns being talked about. Health care, people concerned about big government spending. That's why we were covering it, and it's misleading to say that we weren't there. I mean, it's just -- it kind of makes me giggle, even now.
BROWN: And, Jim, you were out with the so-called tea party express bus for more than two weeks. You've been to dozens of their rallies. Why was it important to you to cover them? What was your goal as you set off on that trip?
JIM SPELLMAN, CNN ALL PLATFORM JOURNALIST: Campbell, and I covered it across the country in the bus with them, sitting right next to a FOX News correspondent as well. So I agree that it's quite frustrating.
But, you know, beyond just a march in Washington, it's a really important story. This is where all of the dissent, all the people that are frustrated with what's happening with the Obama administration, health care, the bailout, this is really the tea parties are aware, this is all coming together out there. They don't really have a leader to rally behind. They're not -- they're often as frustrated with Republicans as the Democrats. The tea party movement is where they are voicing their concern, Campbell. And that's why -- you know, that's why I was out there covering it.
BROWN: And, Lisa, I know you filed more than eight reports on Saturday's protest for CNN Radio. You also spent all day out there. And I want to play one of the memorable moments on television. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LISA DESJARDINS, CNN RADIO CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT: Can I ask you guys something? Let me ask you guys something. I've got a question.
I've got a question, everybody. I want to bring this all together. You guys are on air right now. I want to ask the crowd -- I want to ask you --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let them speak. We don't need to be like this.
DESJARDINS: I'll ask you --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let them speak.
DESJARDINS: What do you think of Congressman Joe Wilson?
(CHEERS)
DESJARDINS: So there are -- there are people that strongly support Congressman Wilson, and many of them are right here.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
BROWN: And, Lisa, you've been to a lot of the tea party rallies right now. You've covered a lot of them. How does Saturday's event compare? What did you hear from the people that you spoke with?
LISA DESJARDINS, CNN RADIO CAPITOL HILL CORRESPONDENT: This was easily the largest rally. I could tell the crowd right away, you are a massive crowd. You know, I have to say, though, at that rally, I saw more of your middle ground signs about spending, liberty, freedom. The most popular thing that you saw there was probably a revolutionary banner. I didn't see as many signs as I had seen at town halls that, you know, Obama is Hitler, those kinds of things.
I actually have to say, honestly, I saw fewer of those at this rally. As for this FOX ad, I think we're in a dangerous position as the media. What you saw there at the crowd, you know, saying tell the truth, tell the truth, to me, there is so much mistrust of media. And I think the fact that we even have to go through this right now, CNN versus FOX, you know, and I guess everybody versus FOX in that ad, it just takes away from time that we could be spending doing real stories. And I think it adds to that mistrust, unfortunately, which is a real problem.
BROWN: An excellent point. Lisa, appreciate it. Kate and Jim, thanks so much, guys. Appreciate your time tonight.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Campbell..."
While media analysts and their analysts analyze who lies, who is motivated by race, and whether the president's agenda is truly socialist, the military-pharmo-medical-financial complex raids the treasury while congress nods. Oh, and did you know that Anna Nicole Smith and Michael Jackson were addicted to prescription drugs?
So how about holding media and their analysts accountable about their complicit or derelict behavior and "challenge" them to investigate topics like:
"Are our current wars caused by the economy's dependence on oil as an energy source?"
"What are the true costs and benefits of government-run health care systems in other industrialized nations and how do costs and benefits in our country compare with them?"
"How will the nation pay for the long term costs of TARP, bailouts I and II and the current two wars?"
"What are the current approaches being used to find Usama bin Ladin?"
"Why are more coalition soldiers dying in Afghanistan lately?"
"When is the US leaving Iraq?"
Don't get me wrong: I'm happy to see CNN call out FOX for at least one of their many lies. It's about time and they should do more of it. But it requires no courage (and very little work) on their part to do so.
Remember the feeding frenzy around Dan Rather. It was in the competing news stations' financial interest to bring down one of the more popular newscasters (not to mention one that had retained some small vestige of what it means to be a real journalist). Perhaps watching KO's ratings grow has helped CNN figure out that discrediting Fox might help their bottom line. Too early to tell, but one can always hope.
But don't count on them going out of their way to get at the truth about the war, environment, healthcare, or any of the other issues of our time. CNN is about entertainment; their audience is only bored and confused by tedious things like facts.
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2) TAKE SMALL PRACTICAL STEPS FORWARD
3) DON'T COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES
According to a writer in Politico, there are a number of beneficiaries of the presumed backing off on the missile defense shield in Poland including:
Lockheed Martin and Raytheon
As Mark Twain might put it, reports about the demise of missile defense are greatly exaggerated. The administration’s new plan focuses future investment on short- and medium-range missile systems including the Patriot, the Theater High-Altitude Air Defense system (THAAD), the Aegis ballistic missile system and the Standard Missile-3 (SM-3).
By extension, that means potential new business for Lockheed Martin, the nation’s largest defense contractor, which makes the Aegis missile defense system and THAAD. Raytheon, which makes the SM-3 missile and the Patriot, also likely will see a boost.
Moreover, said William Hartung, director of the arms and security initiative at the New America Foundation, “If the decision ends up putting Patriot missiles in more countries sooner and accelerates U.S. procurement of Aegis systems to offer the ‘sea-based’ defenses that are part of the missile defense restructuring, all of this could end up being a net gain for the defense industry.”
The Navy
This is the time of year when the Joint Chiefs of Staff start angling for the largest possible share of the Pentagon’s budget. Given the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, soaring deficits and the economic crisis, the competition among services will be intense.
In that kind of environment, the joint chiefs tend to fright hard for parochial interests. So it’s a pretty good time to have a new and important mission backed by the president, defense insiders say – even it’s a boring one for sailors.
At a more basic level, the shift to sea-based missile defenses has already benefitted the Navy, which struggles every year for money to increase the size of its fleet. The president asked for six more DDG-51 ballistic-missile-capable destroyers for the Navy’s fiscal year 2010 budget, and more can be expected.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27327.html#ixzz0RYgCXxOL
You overlook the cost of the system that has been cancled and the fact that a contractor is taking a hit on that.
A single Ground Based Interceptor (GBI) that George W wanted to put in cost about $70 million dollars. A single SM-3 Block 1A that will be the first phase of the new system cost about $10 million and the Block IB for the second phase $15 million. That means we're spending less money for a more flexible system- that works for me.
Barry
Our departure point is the present, our goal is the future... it is for us to determine.
This is Jen DiMascio who actually wrote the article:
Jen DiMascio - ^ NOT geaux
Jen DiMascio is a writer who specializes in defense. Before coming to Politico, she covered Congress for Defense Daily and military policy and purchasing for Inside the Army. DiMascio has written for The New York Times, The Village Voice and other publications.
Not geaux. He didn't write that. It was Jen who overlooked the costs. Just sayin'. :)
As for the defense contractor who took the hit from the cancellation (it was Boeing, I believe) it appears this article at least holds out hope that the industry as a whole only stands to gain from this new shift. A Win/Win .... Unless of course you're on the receiving end of an Aegis ballistic missile.... :)
Moreover, said William Hartung, director of the arms and security initiative at the New America Foundation, “If the decision ends up putting Patriot missiles in more countries sooner and accelerates U.S. procurement of Aegis systems to offer the ‘sea-based’ defenses that are part of the missile defense restructuring, all of this could end up being a net gain for the defense industry.”
Granted there are those pesky Rumsfeldian "unknowables" still in the equation at this point...
Meanwhile, Lech Walesa's sense of humor seems to have been stretched rather thin by the whole escapade, forcing him to review his view of America. Late to the party.
“Americans have always cared only about their interests, and all other [countries] have been used for their purposes. This is another example,” said Polish Solidarity leader Lech Walesa Walesa, who won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1983. Poles “need to review our view of America....”
Oooh. Harsh. Lots of that 'reviewing our view of America' stuff has been going on this past decade...
Its seems to me that there's a whole lot of overlooking going on lately.
The key word in that quote is that it "could" be a net gain for industry. If we stayed with the Bush plan it would be a big payday for Boeing - I think its Boeing.
There's also the fact that the Bush system was designed to deal with 3 to 5 missiles and then only if they were aimed in the vicinity of Poland or to pass over Poland. The new system deals with a gaggle of missiles and is mobile. Another minor fact is that the new system is operational and has performed beyond expectations. The Bush system is still being tested and while its been doing better its not operational.
Barry
Our departure point is the present, our goal is the future... it is for us to determine.
To stop Russian missiles if they somehow become our enemies again? Or Iranian if they continue with their bellicose activities? Or from rogue nations? Or a missile handed over by a rogue nation to a terrorist group? Or one stolen by a terrorist group from a friendly state?
In this writer's mind (geaux in this case), the cost/benefit equation does not seem very beneficial, i.e. my intelligence tells me the risk is low and the cost exorbitantly high. Could be wrong, intelligence has not always been right.
How about using some of those millions (perhaps billions, or even trillions) to get our own house in order? Infrastructure, health CARE (not necessarily health insurance), education, R&D in alternative energy, energy conservation, sustainable agricultural production. Not bailouts, just investments that may pay off in improved transportation, energy independence, health of our people. Tangible things, local and useful. Just sayin'.
we stopped creating so many real or imagined enemies in the world, we wouldn't need any of these so-called "defense" progrms. I think we spend most of our GNP on "defense." What a sorry, sick, joke.
"Because what he's frittering away ...are the rights we all have as citizens." J. Turley
I agree that we'd be a lot better off if we didn't go around creating and imagining enemies. But US defense spending is not "most" of our GNP, its around 5%. On the other hand it is close to most of the defense spending in the world, about 48% of the world's military spending. Of course we spend about 17% of the GDP on health care but that's another story.
Barry
Our departure point is the present, our goal is the future... it is for us to determine.
The 5% figures is based on pre-2000 conditions. The common % used was 5.7; however it's grown since then, as well as our GNP. The "defense" figures also don't take into account the vast sums required by the NSA and CIA (secret) nor the account of running 2 silly wars. Whatever the % it's too damn high; we waste enough on these "wars" or to bail out the wealthy to provide free health care and higher education for our own citizens.
" Let me read from Robert Samuelson's recent article, 'Obama, the Great Pretender.'
'It would be responsible for Obama to acknowledge the big gamble in his budget. National security has long been government's first job. In his budget, defense spending drops from 20 percent to 14 percent of the total from 2008 to 2016, the smallest share since the 1930s. The decline presumes a much safer world. If the world doesn't cooperate, deficits will grow.'"
"Because what he's frittering away ...are the rights we all have as citizens." J. Turley
The defense budget is only the Pentagon's request each Fiscal Year.
It also does not include nuclear weapons programs from the Department of Energy, or funding for wars such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Oh ... those!
Spoo!
That can't be much more, can it??
http://customsites.yahoo.com/financiallyfit/finance/article-107752-2691-0-how-one-family-shed-106000-in-debt
Five years ago, the Hildebrandt family of New Richmond, Wis., was juggling more than $100,000 in credit card and personal debt. Through frugality, determination and hard work, they are now -- other than a mortgage -- debt-free.
and Rick Sanchez are that KO is in a ratings war with Bill O'Reilly and FOX News so he will criticize them for virtually anything that they say even if it is over a very small thing which could just come down to a matter of opinion while Rick Sanchez's criticism of FOX News over their false ad was something tangible that he could prove. Rick Sanchez is also not known as being in a personal war against FOX News which is Keith Olbermann's main trademark!
I agree with you that "It's all about the benjamins" to many in the cable news business which is why I think that some people are saying "CNN -- trying to stay down the middle -- thus becomes the odd network out:"
http://weblogs.variety.com/bltv/2009/03/cnn-victim-of-ideology-or-incompetence.html
Posted: Fri, March 27, 2009, 9:03 AM
CNN: Victim of Ideology, or Its Own Shortcomings?
"The ratings gains by Fox News Channel and MSNBC -- coupled with the declines during the first quarter for CNN -- could lead to various conclusions. The most obvious one is that with a new Democratic administration and an extremely polarized cable news audience, viewers are gravitating toward their ideological comfort zones. So conservatives are taking solace in the "Obama is a socialist" rantings of Fox's Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity, while liberals cozy up to Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow. CNN -- trying to stay down the middle -- thus becomes the odd network out..."
CNN is definitely not perfect in my opinion (I do not think that Jack Cafferty and Roland Martin are doing anything to help CNN's credibility) but I think that they are the most credible cable news network when being compared to FOX News (which is openly biased toward the far right) and MSNBC (which is openly biased toward the far left except for Joe Scarborough in the morning).
This is very clearly a matter of personal opinion on my part but I definitely think that John King of CNN is the best reporter in the cable news business today and I also think that John King's philosophy of journalism is the closest to Walter Cronkite's standard of objectivity that I have seen in today's news media:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17419
John King of CNN showed how a serious journalist fairly asks the tough questions
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 16, 2009 - 6:52am.
While I do not believe that any journalist is perfect or infallible, I have a lot of respect for John King and I tape his CNN "State of the Union" show every week. I have never known him to ever say anything that is either stupid or partisan and his judgment calls have a very accurate track record from what I have seen over a long period of time!
about out of control Michael Jackson and Anna Nicole Smith coverage. This is what I call "Junk-Food News:"
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17749
Howard Kurtz called Michael Jackson coverage "out of control & an embarrassment"
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 3, 2009 - 8:23am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11261
Anna Nicole Smith, Britney Spears & "Junk-Food News" overplayed in the media!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 1, 2007 - 6:46pm.
Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org and Paul Rieckhoff of IAVA in my opinion have rightly complained about there being far too much "Junk-Food News" in the past and they also asked many of the same kind of good questions that you did about what should be covered as being serious news:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz/iraq-five-years-and-fad_b_92095.html
Jon Soltz
Iraq: Five Years and Fading
Posted March 18, 2008 | 11:28 AM (EST)
"This marks the five-year anniversary of the war in Iraq...
Maybe I'm hoping for too much. If the media follows their pattern, they'll take a brief pause tomorrow to remember there's a war in Iraq and war in Afghanistan. Then it'll be back to talk of prostitutes and celebrity breakdowns..."
http://securingamerica.com/node/2226
Anna Nicole Smith Died. So Did Three American Troops. (Paul Rieckhoff)
Submitted by Kat on February 9, 2007 - 1:57pm.
Blog name:
Huffington Post
Date:
February 9, 2007 - 12:00pm
URL: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-rieckhoff/anna-nicole-smith-died-_b_40827.html
Paul Rieckhoff
Exec. Director of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA)
Posted: February 9, 2007 12:40 PM
Anna Nicole Smith Died. So Did Three American Troops.
"I can't stand it anymore. For the last two days, on every cable news network, it has been non stop coverage of the death of Anna Nicole Smith. Look, I am sorry she is dead. And my heart goes out to her family..."
program:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/18/sitroom.03.html
THE SITUATION ROOM
Michelle Obama Speaks Out on Health Care Reform; President Obama's Media Push
Aired September 18, 2009 - 18:00 ET
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: "And one of CNN's competitors and frequent antagonizers attempts to blast CNN, but CNN's Rick Sanchez exposes how the cable news competitor is flat-out wrong.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
RICK SANCHEZ, CNN ANCHOR: Look at the bottom of the ad there, where it says, "We cover all the news."
Really? You do? What, we don't?
You know, that's an offense to myself and to my colleagues, who risk their lives.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BLITZER: Lots of folks at CNN right now are fuming over false allegations that we didn't cover the so-called tea party protests here in Washington last weekend.
Our own Rick Sanchez vented his anger on his program earlier today. And he explained just how extensively we did cover those anti- Obama demonstrations.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SANCHEZ: All right, there's something that I got to tell you now. If you watch this show every day, as I mentioned a while ago, you know that I usually don't suffer fools gladly, especially when it comes to the fools who perpetuate falsehoods.
Well, today, thousands of you flipped through the pages of "The Washington Post" only to come across a lie so bold and so upsetting that, frankly, I'm just not going to sit here in silence and allow my craft or my news operation to be unfairly maligned, because enough is enough. And, yes, I'm talking to you, FOX News, you, who claim to be fair and balanced. At what, I wonder? You know, I don't know, but I have got a couple ideas..."