Michael Ware used the CNN "Magic Map" to show how difficult that Afghanistan is


Hello Everyone:

While I fully realize that health care and the botched terrorist attack to blow up the plane last Friday are very serious issues, it seems to me that Afghanistan has virtually fallen off of the media's radar screen when it is a very difficult, serious, and complex issue that is costing a lot of lives and money!

I know that opinions of journalists will vary from person to person but Michael Ware of CNN in my opinion is by far the most objective and credible foreign policy news reporter in the entire cable news industry while John King of CNN in my opinion is the most objective and credible news anchor in the entire cable news industry and is the most worthy successor to Walter Cronkite's journalistic legacy!

Here is the very informative YouTube video link where Michael Ware (with John King assisting him) used the CNN "Magic Map" to illustrate and explain just how difficult and complex of a situation that Afghanistan really is when he said that "NATO isn't in it. This is an American war," where he explained the terrain by saying "this is the end of the Himalayas. These valleys swallow infantry divisions whole. How on earth do you ever expect anyone, let alone the Afghans, even the American military to seal that? It's just not going to happen," where he criticized Obama by saying "We heard Pakistan mentioned. That was the key word, but it was such a brief passing mention. It was the rhetoric that we heard before from previous administrations. The true story of this Afghan war is that Saudi Arabia is playing a hand in here. Iran is playing a hand in here. India has enormous concern in Pakistan because Pakistan and India are rivals. They're using Afghanistan as yet another battlefield," and where he gave the best solution for us to deal with Afghanistan by saying "You know who controls those regions? If it's not the Taliban, it's the local district chief. It's the local tribal chief. They're the people America needs to reach out to, either until the Army is built or even after. You're not going to be able to do anything without local partners:"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9lrfRG9a3A

Michael Ware analyzes (Afghanistan) with John King (6:38)

taylormarsh
December 01, 2009

"This is classic Ware."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9lrfRG9a3A

Right below is the entire CNN transcript of this YouTube video with the quotes above and which is well worth your time looking at if you do not have 6 minutes and 38 seconds to watch the video!

I really did learn a lot of new things that I did not know after watching this video which is why I highly recommend it. You will see the exact reasons why Afghanistan is a very difficult and complex issue!

Mitch Dworkin

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http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/01/se.01.html

CNN LIVE EVENT/SPECIAL

President Obama Reveals Afghanistan Strategy

Aired December 1, 2009 - 20:00 ET

WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: "Let's go to John King right now. He's at the magic map with Michael Ware. Michael has spent a lot of time in Afghanistan.

Guys, you know the story quite well. The challenges are daunting.

JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Wolf, you heard the president make the policy argument why he's sending more troops. You heard him answer some of his political supporters and his critics. Let's take a closer look with Michael Ware at the challenge the president outlined tonight.

Let's just begin right here. Here's your map of Afghanistan. The capital, Kabul is here. Some of the more dicey regions here.

Let me start by showing you the state of play right now by bringing in the current troop levels just quickly to refresh. About 45,000 NATO troops, about 68,000 U.S. troops now. The president says he will add 30,000 plus to that.

And let's close it down, Michael Ware. What is most significant just as a quick set up about this map? You see most of the American flags down here. The NATO forces up here.

MICHAEL WARE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the flags say it all, John. This is an American war.

Now, with a NATO antes up with more troops or not, which most likely it's not except in a tokenistic sense. Look at the NATO flags. Where's the conflict? It's not there. The conflict is down here on the Pakistani border region.

KING: Let me jump in and illustrate as you talk. Keep going.

WARE: That's where this war is being fought. America, Britain, even the Aussies in Rose Garden (ph) province, that's where the battle is. NATO isn't in it. This is an American war. That's what that tells us.

KING: To reinforce your point, inside the line where you saw most of the American troops, the darker the province, the stronger the Taliban. So the greatest Taliban presence --

WARE: Some of these provinces, darker. Kandahar, the capital city is under siege. Zabol, the entire districts that are Taliban control right at this moment. Paktika, I mean, most of that is under Taliban influence if not controlled. And remember, there's an American soldier still being hostage. He was taken out of this area and is somewhere around here. So, I would make this a lot darker.

KING: And let's reinforce the region. You're in this area right here. We're focusing on this side of the border, which is Afghanistan, a huge military challenge. But the president did make the point that even if things go perfectly here, you still have a giant question as to what happens in Pakistan.

WARE: Absolutely. The war in Afghanistan is not going to be ultimately won or lost in Afghanistan. There's a lot of other pieces. Key to that is Pakistan. These sanctuaries, these safe havens. Now let's remember.

KING: I just want to show one view. I'll interrupt you for one second.

Safe havens, we believe Osama bin Laden.

WARE: Most likely people say he's here in this region. But let's not forget there's two Taliban. There's an Afghan Taliban, and there's a Pakistani Taliban.

The Pakistani military right now is fighting the Pakistani Taliban. Right? But that's not the only sanctuary. All of this -- all of it is Taliban sanctuary. Indeed, down here in the Pakistani city of Quetta, it's known by American intelligence, by Ambassador Holbrooke as the home of the Taliban Shura (ph). So all of that is Taliban and anti-American militant safe haven not just the highlighted areas.

KING: I want to do one of the -- I want to show another thing to illustrate two points. Number one, the president talked about the past and the underresourcing, under U.S. resourcing. And he talked about mistakes that were made. He said the Al Qaeda leadership was allowed to escape.

This, of course, is Tora Bora where they believe back in the early days, Osama bin Laden escaped into Pakistan. Instructive not only to talk about past mistakes, but also, Michael, the terrain. This is not Iraq. This is not flat desert.

WARE: Absolutely not. Now a very key lesson was learned in this battle in 2001. There, American special forces relied on -- American special forces relied on Afghan militia to do most of the fighting. Well, Osama paid them more than we did. So he just slipped through the back door, which you can see, you know, there's a myriad of back doors.

So the next big battle in similar terrain in March, 2002, operate in Shah cult (ph), that was American-led and fought. That was the first lesson. The second lesson. Look at this, mate. Look at this.

This border region -- this is the end of the Himalayas. These valleys swallow infantry divisions whole. How on earth do you ever expect anyone, let alone the Afghans, even the American military to seal that? It's just not going to happen.

KING: Well, then on that point as we make this go away, let's come back to where we are in terms of the troops today. The president said he can send in 30,000 more. He hopes to get several thousand more from the NATO allies. And he makes the case to the American people so that you may be opposed to this. But more now is the solution to getting out sooner.

WARE: Yes.

KING: Three years he says you can have the Afghans up into training and begin to transition to hand back them all of these difficult areas. Based on the past experience, training the Afghans, keeping them in the security forces once they join up, what are the challenges?

WARE: Well, first, like you say, you've got to put together as quickly as possible an Afghan fighting force that whether it's held together by sticky tape or string like the Iraqi security forces, can at least be effective to some degree. At least that gives you something. But it's not enough.

I mean, Kandahar, Helmand, do you know how many Afghan troops are down there? Virtually none. They're just token presences. You know who controls those regions? If it's not the Taliban, it's the local district chief. It's the local tribal chief. They're the people America needs to reach out to, either until the Army is built or even after. You're not going to be able to do anything without local partners.

KING: And as the president discussed the challenge tonight in Afghanistan, in Pakistan, as well, you make the case that something was missing.

WARE: Yes. OK. We heard Pakistan mentioned. That was the key word, but it was such a brief passing mention. It was the rhetoric that we heard before from previous administrations.

The true story of this Afghan war is that Saudi Arabia is playing a hand in here. Iran is playing a hand in here. India has enormous concern in Pakistan because Pakistan and India are rivals. They're using Afghanistan as yet another battlefield. So, where was any kind of consideration from the president about the regional approach? This broad chess game that needs to be played to get Americans home from there?

KING: So, Campbell, we lay out there some of the policy challenges. Michael making the case that the president left out a few pieces of the neighborhood, but as we showed you on the ground in Afghanistan across the border in Pakistan, a huge military challenge for the president. And in that speech, Campbell, you heard full well, not only the outline why he made these decisions but also piece by piece trying to address what he knows is a huge political debate back here at home.

CAMPBELL BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: Indeed it is, John. And we're going to get into the politics of this with our political folks in just a few moments..."

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 30, 2009 - 7:16am.

shows that he is a truly objective and credible critic of both political parties in my opinion!

At about 01:15 into this CNN video, Michael Ware called Obama's speech "disappointing" and said "I thought it lacked the substance I was hoping to hear:"

http://gergensvoice.blogspot.com/2009/12/president-obamas-speech-highs-and-lows.html

David Gergen's Voice

Wednesday, December 2, 2009

President Obama's speech, highs and lows

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/12/02/ac360.obama.speech.points.cnn

Obama's speech, highs and lows 8:30

An AC360 panel (including Michael Ware) discusses what they thought were the key points that stuck out in President Obama's Afghanistan speech.

Source: CNN
Added On December 2, 2009

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/12/02/ac360.obama.speech.points.cnn

Here is the CNN transcript of Michael Ware at about 01:15 into this video:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0912/01/acd.01.html

ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES

President Obama Unveils Afghanistan Strategy; Interview With Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich

Aired December 1, 2009 - 22:00 ET

ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: "Michael Ware, you have spent a lot of time in Afghanistan. You lived in Kandahar. What did you think of the president's speech?

MICHAEL WARE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, maybe I expected too much. I found it disappointing.

Apart from, you know, confirming the fact that he is sending extra troops, the rest was just rhetoric. I mean, we have heard it all before: Let's pull together. Let's hit Pakistan with a wet piece of lettuce. Let's take a new...

(LAUGHTER)

WARE: You know, let's take a new -- new path forward.

I mean, obviously, we're not going to give away the details in the president's speech, but I thought it lacked the substance I was hoping to hear..."

Michael Ware in my opinion definitely cannot be accused of being biased against Obama because he has a record of being very fair where he has been critical of BOTH McCain and Obama:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/16711

CNN TRANSCRIPT: Michael Ware fact checked both Obama & McCain about Iraq!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on October 6, 2008 - 4:51pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11611

Michael Ware calls McCain's comments about Iraq "beyond ludicrous" & "Neverland"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on March 28, 2007 - 5:02pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/11663

TRANSCRIPT & ANALYSIS: John McCain goes Round Two with Michael Ware about Iraq!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 3, 2007 - 2:46am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15196

Michael Ware called Obama's 16 month troop withdrawal plan from Iraq "ludicrous"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 5, 2008 - 7:16am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/15231

Michael Ware called Obama's exchange with Petraeus "frighteningly disappointing"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on April 9, 2008 - 12:56pm.

Michael Ware from my standpoint operates just like a truly honest and reputable baseball umpire who objectively calls balls and strikes right down the middle regardless of which team is at bat and that is what I especially like about his analysis!

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 30, 2009 - 7:21am.

in my opinion:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18146

Michael Ware said what he would do if he could talk with Obama about Afghanistan

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on November 25, 2009 - 7:55am.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17772

Michael Ware: "America cannot win the war in Afghanistan with bombs and bullets"

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 10, 2009 - 1:47pm.

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17744

Michael Ware explained why our major operation in Afghanistan will not be easy

Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on July 2, 2009 - 6:52am.

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