State of the Union 9PM EST
Submitted by Mary on January 27, 2010 - 7:13pm.
Current Events
Watch it LIVE:
Biden in Purple. Pelosi in purple. Reid in purple. McCaskill in purple. Michelle Obama in maroony purple. Boxer in purple.....
part of what makes us independant.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
Boehner in a purple tie...
That fits really well.
I'm back to Indie too.
They keep this up and the whole country will be Indie!
We will become the Independent States of America. ISA.
;-)
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
Striking and bold. (The tie, not the speech.)
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark: "We're no better than our own sense of humility."
Sure to be some stern words for dem Banksters too!
HAahahaha! Wolf Blister just said "Get ready for an HISTORIC night" !!!! :-)
Heads up from the CNN dude.
Oh boy.
There's a new idea.
Is there a 'seating chart' by seniority in Congress? I've never heard about the seating arrangement!
and he isn't even 5 minutes in, yet.
Just once, I'd like to see someone with the balls to cut the preamble-speachifying-political posturing-bullshit and start out with, "Ladies and Gentlemen - this country is in serious trouble...and we're not helping..."
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
when so many are suffering. He so does not get it.
I think the writer did a decent job.
EEEK!! they just showed Lieberman! Time to drink. My husband made me a cocktail with pomegranate juice and it's ... strong.
Politicians remind me so much of actors in that they adore getting together to formally congratulate themselves in big standing ovation mode on a regular basis.
We LOVE us!!! Clap clap clap ;)
watching them stand and applaud so often.
Too many of us have family/neighbors/coworkers who are in deep financial trouble and under major stress right now.
Tonight's speech should have taken on a more somber tone and less applause out of respect for their fellow Americans.
It's a disgusting display, imo.
Just my two cents.
We've lived without a national health care, and major reforms, for decades. Hell of a lot harder to live without jobs.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
When that the poor have cried, Caesar hath wept;
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet Brutus says he was ambitious,
And Brutus... is an honorable man.
and one of my favorite plays.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
We don't have any 'goods'!
We make bombs!
China makes 'goods'.
to small businesses so they can make their payrolls, etc..." bit. Loans don't help, if no one is buying your products. Loans don't help if no companies want your service because no one is buying their products. There is much more too it than just getting businesses loans.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
it damn hard to create and manufacture things people do want or may want. (and I include artistic trades in that as well, like masons, sculpters, carvers, gilders, stained glass work, etc.)
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
The problem is that most manufacturing jobs, if they're going to pay much, require more than a trade school education these days. You need at least a couple of years of college. At least in my area we've seen the results over the past few years. Until a few years ago we had students coming to the college with a trade school diploma (and often the student loans that go with the private schools) but the either couldn't get even an entry level job or if the did discovered they didn't have a future with some college. Now most of the trade schools that refused to keep up with the times have closed their doors.
A more interesting and I think a more positive change has started this year. One of my courses which for years has had largely computer science majors and few engineering majors suddenly has fine arts majors. It sure makes the class a lot more interesting.
Barry
Our departure point is the present, our goal is the future... it is for us to determine.
(and I have a suggestion for you Mr. president: get the EPA to raise the ethanol blend to E15 or higher!)
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
They are on line to get frozen or cut in the new discretionary spending budget freeze.
Some examples of governmental discretionary spending include:
Labor, health programs, human services, housing assistance, education, environment, transportation, social services, community development, Coast Guard, space exploration, highway construction...
As for the agencies that would now have to deal with spending limits and cutbacks, some are:
The EPA, Commerce Department, Health and Human Services, the Department of Interior... to name a few.
Exempt from the limits will be security and defense agencies, whose budgets will undoubtedly rise in the years ahead as the president pursues an aggressive foreign policy agenda.
anything.
;-)
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
but, how are you planning to reign in the budgets you aren't planning to cut?! Or are you even planning that?
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
The cost of US wars on "terror" since 2001
$ 954,046,650,000
All that and we still get smokin undies dude on our planes. Heckuva Job.
That's a bigger oxymoron than "Government Intelligence"!
The Nuclear Regulatory Commission says the reactor revival is NOT ready for prime time
July 25, 2008
Harvey Wasswerman @ FreePress.org
but the audience looks a bit aged. How about an immediate term limits program?
I've advocated that for decades now. 12 years maximum, for either house.
What I find interesting is if term limits are good enough for the highest office in the land, it's good enough for all public offices in the land.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
I read not long ago that this Congress (or was it only the Senate?) is about the oldest ever.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark: "We're no better than our own sense of humility."
Well the Congress was created in Sep 1787 so yes it is oldest ever and I expect it will be the longest ever in the future. :)
Mr. President and honorable congressmen. Not funny.
We have, and we are, Mr. President. You're either not listening or not interested.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
remark to all of Congress.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
to bring up ENTITLEMENTS???
And the all new "bipartisanshippy" committee huddling in backrooms with their steely knives to kill the beast? (hat tip to the Eagles)
The Brrrrr Freeze of funds.
Gonna get very cold out there for some people. He says he'll veto if necessary....
How about stopping a couple of senseless wars?
There it is!! The bipartisan committee on entitlements!!!!
More tequila!!!
Ahhhh!!!
Oh no. That would not be good. Imagine, more of the same?
"I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful people".
"Democrats, I would remind you that we still have the largest majority in decades and the people expect us to solve problems."
Wow. I'd forgotten all about that 'majority' thing.
And that should be tatooed on the eyelids and ass of every member of the WH and Congress!
Oh look! There's a new job creation: government tatoo artists
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
Well, I am and so is the rule of law.
n/t
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
I was getting cynical, but he gets it. Best SOTU I've ever heard.
He can't do it alone, but we can.
You are nothing if not consistent.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
He had them listening at the end.
Good coaching!
"...about how our government works"
====
No, not really.
We know exactly how our government works. For sale to highest bidder.
Well, he had me for a second there...aaaaannnnddd now he's lost me again sounding like a typical pol running 4 re-election. Too bad.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
Well, by my count
* Jobs = 10
* Economy = 2
* War = 6
* Deficit = 9
* Budget = 1
* Congress = 4
BONUS SHOTS for Afghanistan (3), Pakistan (1), India (1), Somalia (0), Iraq (1), Iran (1), Federal Reserve (0), Wall Street (3), Main Street (1)!
TIEBREAKER: Number of Standing 0's!
(tough to count with the teevee camera coverage)
"Bi-Partisan" = 20
Dems Only = 16
Thanks for comin'!
www.November5.org
to behave nicely because he is asking them to and because he is telling them that it is the right thing to do.
While I certainly agree with all of Obama's points about bipartisanship, he should know by now that GOP ideologues have absolutely no interest in being nice to him, that it is NOT possible to seriously negotiate or reason with them, and that they are only rooting for him to fail:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17338
ANALYSIS: Why Bipartisanship is NOT possible with far right wing GOP ideologues!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 17, 2009 - 6:21pm.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17327
Rush Limbaugh saying "I Hope the Stimulus Package Fails" should be nationalized!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on February 14, 2009 - 8:37am.
Obama said the same thing over a year ago and all that it got him was tea parties and obstruction in 2009:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17101
Obama said "common ground will not be found on the far right or the far left..."
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 12, 2008 - 1:56pm.
Obama in my opinion sounded like a grade school teacher asking their students to behave nicely because it is the right thing to do. If Obama thinks that Limbaugh, Hannity, and other GOP ideologues like them are going to be nice because he is telling them that it is the right thing to do, then I have some land to sell him in Florida. It is just NOT going to happen and the other side will view that lecture as a sign of weakness on his part!
Congress. Obama was speaking to active members of Congress on both sides. While I agree Obama is unlikely to get them to play nice, that doesn't mean someone else can't. And, if, on the off chance someone can, and they start doing it, that will make more progress in limiting the influence of idealogies on both sides than anything else.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
all of the Republicans in Congress when aides to Mitch McConnell are literally calling Limbaugh to tell him what McConnell is doing to obstruct Obama and when so many of the Republicans in Congress fear Limbaugh to the point that they will not vote for any of Obama's major legislation:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/18215
Mitch McConnell's aides called Rush Limbaugh "to explain their tactics" to him!
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on December 16, 2009 - 5:08am.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/17860
GOP strategist John Feehery on why Republicans fear voting for the public option
Submitted by Mitch Dworkin on August 22, 2009 - 3:33am.
The DCCC has a list of many prominent Republicans who have apologized to Rush Limbaugh when they said something that got Limbaugh upset with them:
http://www.dccc.org/content/sorry
I'm Sorry, Rush
"Republicans who've dared to criticize Rush only to beg for his forgiveness..."
The reason for this is because "Republicans are no longer in control of their base:"
http://www.politico.com/huddle/1109/huddle405.html
Conservative coup
By: MARTIN KADY II on November 2, 2009 @ 7:13 AM
"The conservative coup in upstate New York over the weekend has revealed an ugly truth: Republicans are no longer in control of their base..."
Republicans in Congress are not going to seriously work with Obama when they fear Limbaugh so much and keep on apologizing to him. The reason why they fear Limbaugh so much is because they know that he just has to give the word to his 20 million followers and they will be primaried the next time that they are on the ballot!
Republicans in Congress saw what happened to Arlen Specter after he voted for the economic stimulus package, they see Charlie Crist getting primaried right now because he stood on a stage with Obama to accept economic stimulus money, and they see this going on all over the country right now (even John McCain has former Rep. J.D. Hayworth as a serious primary challenger right now because the Limbaugh wing of the GOP does not consider him to be "pure" enough)!
Unfortunately it really is this serious Kelly!
No link yet, but I saw this reported on another blog.
Shares your priorities for the country?
Before speech: 57%
After speech: 70%
Has clear plan for creating jobs?
Before speech: 40%
After speech: 59%
4% MOE
per CBS TV
I'll make sure to forward Paul's post to my younger sister -- she was laid off recently. I have to take her downtown Chicago on Tuesday so that she can file for bankruptcy.
She's mortified but I'm sure Obama's "good polling news" will make her feel so much better.
I hope she comes out of all this ok, Please give her my best wishes.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
People need to know that others care in the dark times...
It took a very long time to convince my sister that she can't do it alone and needs to move back home.
Can you imagine... moving back home at 47 yrs old?
Anyway, I was looking forward to her living at home for a year or so and getting back on her feet.
Though, I'm concerned that she may not have a home to live in for very long.
My mom passed away, suddenly, a few weeks ago -- I've been sifting through her personal items and medical bills for several days now. All I can say is WOW -- the fees are mor shocking than I imagined. I doubt that Medicare will cover all of it so we may lose our parents' house.
Of course, no need to share my concerns with my sis.
It's so sad to know that this is only one story of many across the country.
I can sympathize with losing your mom - it's been about a year for me but I miss her every day, and still not used to the changes her death brought. Economic issues make it a lot harder, though we've been very lucky all things considered.
If there's anything you need, or anything I can do to be of help - give me a call/email. And I mean that.
Hang in there, ok? It will get better.
"Our public servants work for us - we don't work for them. We have an obligation, as citizens of this country, to always remember that - and to never let them forget it." - DeadMessengers
Don't panic at the bills and amounts contained in the original bills. When I broke my hip, the hospital "bill" said something like $46,000. I think the hospital eventually got less than 10% of it, and my out-of-pocket payment was $500. I warn you, too, that it could be up to a year or even more before it's all settled.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark: "We're no better than our own sense of humility."
He's doing what he can (at least I think so), but he can't do it alone.
I missed part of the speech and catched it later because I was joining other teachers at a school board meeting where they are proposing even more draconian cuts for next year.
I hope things improve for your sister, but you can't blame everything on the President even if you disagree with his policies...well I guess you can but I think it's been a bit narrow-minded. I disagree with the thrust of the "race to the top" program but I'm not going to dismiss everything he is fighting for because of that. I like the fact that he is supporting nuclear power; we need that to fight climate change and become energy independent. I like how he called out the gang of five on the S.C. I like his sincerity, and I want him to succeed.
It is clear many Republicans want the country to fail so they can "win" in November. A positive public response to the SOTU can help put pressure on them to change their ways. The President can't do it alone; it will take a lot of political pressure, and higher approval rating for the POTUS will make them squirm, I guarantee you.
In any case best of luck to your sister and all of us. These are tough times, but I believe America will pull through.
I hope you didn't say "catched" out lout in your teacher group.
Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
Wes Clark: "We're no better than our own sense of humility."
Please forgive my most egregious typo, Stan. Probably all the stress from pay cuts and increased class sizes.
Or Huffington? Or perhaps, a poll run by Tim Kaine? Anyone who could be persuaded to change their opinion that drastically based on one speech is really out of touch.
Even a Kos poll is better than what's in our local paper this morning. The Asbury Park Press has a front page headline - "Split decision on State of the Union for viewers in Shore area." However the first paragraph of the story reveals that conclusion is based on "two voters interviewed Wednesday night." And they wonder why newspapers are dying in this country.
Barry
Our departure point is the present, our goal is the future... it is for us to determine.
With all due deference to separation of powers, last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections.
(APPLAUSE)
I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests or, worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people. And I urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps correct some of these problems.
That subject line is pure snark, for those of you who don't know me.
We're netflixing The Tudors. That King Henry #8 was a pretty cagey dude, and could always convince himself that he was doing what was right (read: served his own agenda) with clever spin and adroit self-delusion. No need to watch the freak-show carried by the networks last night, when I can watch the same disgusting displays of spin, delusion, greed and power-mongery with better costumes and production design on my DVD player. Seriously, Peter O'Toole as Pope? Now that's casting! And that Jonathan Rhys Meyers - oh, there's some intense hottiness, despite his characters penchant for being a complete bastard.
-- I'm laughing because it's not funny.
I'll keep it simple!
I'll go with
BONUS SHOTS for Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Federal Reserve, Wall Street, Main Street!
TIEBREAKER: Number of Standing 0's!
I'll go with 12!
We Move to Amend