It it CAD, yet?

Yo,..Give it up for Wes!  

"Debate, Dialogue, Discussion, Disagreement - that's not wrong -that's not unpatriotic, that's one of the highest forms of patriotism and love of country, and we need to say it!" - Gen. Wesley Clark (US Ret.)

http://tinyurl.com/aexvb

interview going on now on MSNBC?

I can't believe how calm he seems to be.  But in his mind it's all about character assassination, and he says that's what Democrats are all about now.   After all these years with Rovean tactics, it's just unbelievable he can toss that out, and talking about criminalization during elections as being a threat to our democracy?  O M G!  "I think because we have such a bold and agressive agenda, the democrats have no agenda, they have this ethics agenda, ... and we need to stop this liberal agenda that is trying to undermine our democracy and I think I can do that." 

Well,,,, so much more, but that's the jest of it.  ugh!

Now that there are official auto-generated General Discussion threads, how does one find the old threads? On the Old Site there was an auto-archive, to wit:

The previous thread has been archived at chat.forclark.com. Once 300 comments have
been posted, this thread will also be archived at chat.forclark.com, and a new thread opened. 

 Anybody know how to find old GD threads, other than scrolling thru Recent Blog Posts? Are they all collected somewhere together as before?

MAKE OHIO BLUE

Democrats THEME:   "BACK TO THE BASICS"

Protect America from it's enemies
Protect America's borders
Protect and Defend America's defenders
Pay America's bills
Promote American values around the world
Protect the general health and welfare of Americans
Promote the education of all Americans
Protect American workers
Protect the freedom of worship, of speech, of the press and of assembly
Protect the right to choose and defend
Protect life, liberty and the persuit of happiness
Protect personal rights
Protect from cruel and unusual punishment
Protect American civil rights
Protect State rights
Protect Voters rights
Protect the Institution of the U.S. Government
Protect the Rule of Law
Protect justice for all
Last but not least - Promote the wishes of We The People.

KEEP IT SIMPLE AND STRAIGHT FORWARD - BACK TO BASICS

is on TCM.

In case anyone doesn't know:

In comic Woody Allen's film debut, he took the Japanese action film "International Secret Police: Key of Keys" and re-dubbed it, changing the plot to make it revolve around a secret egg salad recipe. (more)

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. -Hunter/Garcia

Why is it that we can hear about Tom Delay, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, murder trials, etc.. all within a couple of years, yet we have still not heard a peep about Kenneth Lay's trial.  Wasn't this one of Bush's promises - get the BIG GUYS that hurt the little guy.

WEST POINT, N.Y. - Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor on Thursday spoke out for clearer and more high-minded rules governing the detention and interrogation of prisoners in the war on terrorism.'

http://tinyurl.com/bezz4

JAKARTA, Indonesia - Karen Hughes, who has faced a rocky road since being named Washington’s public relations chief, answered tough questions Friday about the invasion of Iraq and wrongly stated that Saddam Hussein gassed to death “hundreds of thousands” of his people.

Although the U.S. undersecretary for public diplomacy twice repeated the claim after being challenged by journalists, Gordon Johndroe, a State Department official traveling with Hughes, later called The Associated Press to say she misspoke.

con't.... Associated Press 

Get the COMMENT out there, then correct it QUIETLY - Same old White House PR 

From Agitprop

George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up.

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All that visualization and NATO is only sending 4 helicopters and 500-1,000 troops to help in the Himalayas. The troops are supposed to help with clearing roads to get the people moved to safer areas, but given the fact that it's already very cold there in the mountains, just seems like a token gesture. There are 3 million homeless people and they are sending 4 helicopters. Also, donations for this disaster are way down and in various ways, it's worse than the Tsunami.

Inspired by Whit Selert's blog call to fire them all and by a peculiar light-headedness from skipping lunch,  I have a weird blog posting to share with you--

Public Servants-- On Notice!

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1988

George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up.

...going in and out of commercial breaks.  I just heard "The Most Wonderful Time of the Year."

It's genius.

is happy with the results of the Iraq referendum on the new constitution. Seems it's a good thing in the eyes of Iran's clerics. He is condemning the killing in Iraq. Too bad the insurgents and Sunnis aren't listening to him. I think he knows the quicker things settle down, the quicker we'll leave. Iran has to be pleased with the trial of Saddam and feel they have nothing more to fear from that country and much to gain.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-10-21-khamenei_x.htm?csp=24

why the tv networks are giving conman/crook/lying bastard Delay the chance to plead his case in an open public forum. He should be banned from talking about his case in public. Hell, his attorney is even caught lying to the judge. He should be thrown in the clink, as well.

Why?

I watched a program on the History Channel tonight about Bosnia and the conflict there. One of the commentators on the show was Ron Haviv, a photographer for Newsweek and took many pictures of what was happening.  He has a book out (got it) called "Blood and Honey" that chronicles the events. He was the photographer that I got to work with on my big photo trip last year! He also covered Wes' campaign for Newsweek. Pretty cool.

"...the measure of success is not 'Can you win?' It's 'Can you get your ideas adopted?' " ~ Wes Clark

It must be time for another

(*based on a concept by ms in la)

Random stuff
Re: To what extent do we think...
MOI?
Maybe--
Uhhh--
Tom Delay with Attorney go into the Blog Bonfire Nov 5th
what a remarkable idea
I will get a list going Ms in La
I wanna know
ms

....

Cool

_{You'd be taking them to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq. Wes Clark, CNN Aug 17 2003}

From the rainy Philadelphia suburbs!

I like Pat Fitzgerald - from the NYT today:

"During his time in New York, Mr. Fitzgerald's hapless bachelor ways became legendary. For months he did not bother to have the gas connected to the stove in his Brooklyn apartment. Once, in a fit of domesticity, he baked two pans of lasagna, recalled Amy E. Millard, a New York colleague. Distracted by work, he left them uneaten in the oven for three months before he discovered them, Ms. Millard said. When he tried to adopt a cat, she remembered, he was turned down because of his work habits and only later acquired a pet when a friend in Florida had to give up her cat and had it flown to him to New York."

Now, I don't doubt that there's a good deal of truth in this story. Indeed, the point in what I'm about to say is not to cast doubt on the accuracy of anything in it. But if you read the LAT story closely you see that the authors were able to interview multiple White House staffers (seemingly all or most former ones) and were apparently provided with a sheaf of documents illustrating Libby's near-obsessive Wilson-monitoring.
If I read the article right it seems they were provided with a copy of this dossier ...

Josh's conclusion:

So, a lot of access to former White House staffers in on key meetings and actual documentary evidence of what Scooter was up to, what his efforts produced. That sort of access ain't easy to come by and it's seldom accidental.

This certainly seems like an attempt to pin this whole thing on Libby......

More at http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006811.php

George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up.

The fearless Maureen Dowd has written a piece on fellow journalist, Judy Miller.  It is not flattering.  Of course, the narcissistic Judy Miller will probably revel in the attention she has received.....good or bad.

To read this piece, go to my blog:

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1991

It's a Time$ $elect Op/Ed and may not be accessible from the link.

Enjoy your day, everybody!  Keep playing those Fitzmas Carols.....It's beginning to look a lot like Fitzmas, everywhere I go!

The land of Republican perfection
Where the only mistake you can ever make is to confess your sins.

By Garrison Keillor

Oct. 19, 2005 | If your alderman introduced a resolution in the city council called the Salute to Our Boys in Uniform Resolution, which proclaimed that we support the troops in their mission to light a beacon of freedom in a dark world, etc., and in small print in Section II, Division A, Paragraph 4, Line 122 was a provision giving the alderman's brother-in-law Walt the contract to haul garbage, the honorable gentleman would be denounced as a crook and a dodo. And yet this same dodge has worked beautifully for Republicans in Washington, who have clubbed their hapless opponents over the head with Old Glory and then set up shop and profited mightily, and more power to them. I am in favor of corruption so long as it makes people truly happy. And so long as somebody writes a good confessional memoir like John Dean's "Blind Ambition."

At this point in time, I don't see Karl Rove or Tom DeLay writing a good mea culpa, and I doubt that Colin Powell or Donald Rumsfeld will either. And of course presidents never do, and here is one more proof that we are not now nor have we ever been a Christian nation. Confession is at the heart of the faith. (All have sinned and come short of the glory of God.) But under this administration, the faith has been revised, all the stuff about the poor has been tabled and the confession of sin omitted, and prayer is now a promotional device in which you thank God for making you the terrific person you are. In the Christian view of the world, these folks rank lower than outright atheists, which is a terrifying aspect of the faith -- better never to have believed than to use sacred things for your grimy self-aggrandizement -- and which might scare a Republican into writing a decent book. One can hope for this.

Meanwhile, last week brought some good news, a report of President Bush having read a book during his long August vacation, a 546-page tome about the 1918 influenza epidemic, according to White House spokesman Scott McClellan. Whether the president read the entire book himself or read passages of it highlighted by his staff, McClellan did not say. But it's good news for us writers (somewhat offsetting the disappointment of seeing the Nobel Prize go to the dismal and tedious Harold Pinter) to imagine that the president might now and then interrupt his ambitious exercise program to pick up a book, sit down and read it. Or a newspaper.

Literacy is a good thing, as the president himself says every year during Literacy Week. A little more literacy might put him in touch with the intellectual standards that prevail today, so he could have anticipated the storm of opposition to the nomination of Harold Miers to the Supreme Court. (I have changed the nominee's gender to ward off accusations of sexism.) Harold's friends in the administration did him no favors when they came bounding to his defense, pointing to his lovely personality and his attention to correcting grammar and misspellings in staff memos. The ability to proofread is not in itself the best recommendation for a seat on the high court, nor is a pleasant disposition. And then the conservative columnist David Brooks savaged Harold simply by quoting the fluff and chaff he wrote while serving as president of the Texas bar association, stuff like "More and more, the intractable problems in our society have one answer: broad-based intolerance of unacceptable conditions and a commitment by many to fix problems."

Not to worry, Harold. Every member of the Senate Judiciary Committee has written worse than that. Take your seat at the witness table, smile in a determined way, and start your engines. When they ask about Roe v. Wade, lead them into the legal briar patch and run them around until they get tired. If they ask about wife beating, talk about Sweden, and if they ask who was that woman you were seen with last Saturday night, talk about the planet Saturn. Not all questions need be answered. Say what you want to say and express your commitment to solve problems and change unacceptable conditions within the framework of your mission. Do this with utter confidence, no shadow of uncertainty flickering across your handsome features, and above all -- listen now -- do not ever confess to a single mistake, error of judgment or misstatement of fact.

You ain't done nothing wrong, Harold. You is the man.

"One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica

http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1992

George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up.

"One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica

List of printers which have tracking dots added to color prints to id the printer it is printed on...

"One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica

Today we pick up "Fonzy" (www.greyhoundsonly.com ;see Adoption/Available Hounds) for a long-term foster in our home.

The Geneva Lakes Greyhound Track in Delavan, WI is closing on November 6, leaving up to a 1000 dogs without jobs or, more importantly, homes. Please take a moment to read the "Special Alert" on the "Geneva Lakes" page of the Greyhounds Only website, too.

I am posting this in hopes that some of you might be able to help in whatever way you can.

Thank you =)

Something I've feared discussed on Billmon:

John Dean -- who knows something about these things -- has some cautionary words for all the little lefties eagerly counting presents (indictments) under the tree: Don't be entirely surprised if "Santa" leaves a lump of coal in your stocking.

Dean's been extremely prescient about the legal issues raised by the Plame scandal so far -- he was, for example, the first to point out the possible applications of the 1917 Espionage Statute. So when he raises the spectre that national security (the last refuge of executive branch scoundrels) might trump whatever evidence of criminality the special prosecutor has gathered, I give him a respectful hearing, even though I don't agree with this analysis. Here's what he says:

It is difficult to envision Patrick Fitzgerald prosecuting anyone, particularly Vice President Dick Cheney, who believed they were acting for reasons of national security. While hindsight may find their judgment was wrong, and there is no question their tactics were very heavy-handed and dangerous, I am not certain that they were acting from other than what they believed to be reasons of national security. They were selling a war they felt needed to be undertaken.

In short, I cannot imagine any of them being indicted, unless they were acting for reasons other than national security. Because national security is such a gray area of the law, come next week, I can see this entire investigation coming to a remarkable anti-climax, as Fitzgerald closes down his Washington office and returns to Chicago.

Dean adds the caveat that if Libby, Rove or other as-yet unindicted co-idiots perjured themselves or conspired to obstruct justice (and in Libby's case, that looks like the smart way to bet) Fitzgerald may decide to stick around and nail their asses to a jailhouse wall.

If you read Dean's entire argument -- it starts after the subtitle "Who Will, And Who Won't, Be Indicted?" -- you'll see that he's puts a lot of weight on the enormous latitude the law and the criminal justice system have traditionally given the executive branch in national security matters. Unless it can be shown that Cheney et. al. acted in pursuit of some private, venal motive, Dean argues, Fitzgerald may decide his writ simply doesn't extend to an affair that is, after all, deeply entangled with the conduct of foreign policy and the prosecution (no pun intended) of the war in Iraq.

In other words, instead of blowing sky high, the volcano may simply snore loudly, roll over, and go back to sleep. And as Dean points out, since all the testimony Fitzgerald has collected is covered by the grand jury secrecy laws, we may never know what he found.

-Cont at: http://www.billmon.org/

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. -Hunter/Garcia

So says the front page above-the-fold article today in the Reverend Moon's paper:

The White House has begun making contingency plans for the withdrawal of Harriet Miers as President Bush's choice to fill a seat on the Supreme Court, conservative sources said yesterday.

"White House senior staff are starting to ask outside people, saying, 'We're not discussing pulling out her nomination, but if we were to, do you have any advice as to how we should do it?' " a conservative Republican with ties to the White House told The Washington Times.

The White House denied making such calls.

"Absolutely not true," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said.

But the conservative political consultant said that he had received such a query from Sara Taylor, director of the Office of White House Political Affairs.

Miss Taylor denied making any such calls.

A second Republican, who is the leader of a conservative interest group and has ties to the White House, confirmed that calls are being made to a select group of conservative activists who are not employed by the government.

A strategic trial balloon or just wishful thinking by the right wingers? Reverend Moon's paper is the paper of record for the wingers. And, they do name the names of the WH staffers.

(CNN) -- International aid organizations are accepting donations to help victims of the devastating earthquake in South and Central Asia. The groups include:

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/10/09/quake.aid/index.html

HuffPost

“I mean, that was a critical part of a lot of people who supported this war -- regular people, journalists, et cetera, said, I don’t like the idea of going to war, but if they’ve got nuclear weapons, I guess we have to. And that was a successful trump card and it was a deal maker for a lot of people who supported the war, middle of the road people.” Chris Matthews on Hardball, October 19, 2005

“The fact is, all the intelligence sources and elected officials in both parties did believe there was WMD in Iraq. It seems hard to imagine that the press could easily counter that.” John F. Harris on washingtonpost.com October 20, 2005

Two-and-a-half years before Mohamed ElBaradei and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) won the Nobel Peace Prize, friends of the Administration were trashing them in the media. Pushing for war with Iraq, these hawks insisted that inspections don’t work. In early March 2003, Tim Russert pushed their case further, by repeating lies to “prove” inspections don’t work. Those lies speak volumes about media coverage of the WMD story then and now.

Russert’s lie: (repeated three times) Inspectors never found any nuclear weapons program in Iraq until 1995, when Saddam’s son-in-law defected and revealed secret nuclear program unknown to the inspectors. It was sheer luck, not the inspections, that kept Saddam from building 21 nuclear bombs by 2003.

Russert’s message: Today inspectors say they find no evidence of nuclear weapons. But experience shows that Saddam can develop nuclear weapons right under the inspectors’ noses. Bombs could still be in Iraq, so the danger - and the justification for war - remains.

The truth: After the Persian Gulf War in 1991, the first intrusive inspections in Iraq led to discovery and destruction Saddam’s remaining nuclear weapons program. In 1995, Saddam’s son-in-law revealed a second crash nuclear program (using a fatally flawed design) that U.S. bombs smashed during the Persian Gulf War, prior to the inspectors’ arrival. Before 1991, Iraq relied on European technicians, equipment and manufacturing expertise for its nuclear weapons program, (which, after seven years, remained unsuccessful.) Lacking foreign assistance thereafter, Iraq remained incapable of building any nuclear device.

“Lying” is an inflammatory charge and tough to prove because it presupposes knowledge of Russert’s state of mind. (I only know what I see on TV and in transcripts.) Whatever his motivation – currying favor with The White House, competing with Fox News – Russert’s lies are so obvious that no other explanation makes sense.

There are five different reasons to believe that Russert lied instead of misspoke. Add them up, and the results are pretty damning.

-more at HuffPost

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. -Hunter/Garcia

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