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Submitted by JustTalking on August 30, 2005 - 10:36am.
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IN THE FANTASY WORLD that President George W. Bush inhabits, the failure of Iraqi leaders to agree on a constitution is another inspiring milestone along the road to Iraqi democracy.
It's amazing how often these milestones whiz past. Only last week, the Iraqis' previous failure to reach agreement was hailed by the president as a "landmark." When failure is described in such soaring language, one wonders how the president would describe actual success.
More of this St Louis Post Dispatch Editorial at http://tinyurl.com/a6kf7
Hi Ben, how's the headache? Nothing new from my end. My cousins have tried all our communications ideas and some of their own. The Times-Picayune has had to evacuate their building in New Orleans, so news interrupted there.
Tried to sleep for a few hours. Tried my abortive and rescue meds and tamed it for awhile, but it is ramping up again. It looks like the bulk of the storm is starting to turn east and the barometer is beginning to rise. Should be good in 6 - 8 hours. I hate being a walking weather predictor.
I have two barometers and I can always feel the storms coming before the instrument picks it up, by days, usually. We had a small earthquake here, same thing. As soon as it happened my headache lifted. The ENT who did my sinus surgery said changes in barometric pressure can effect your sinuses and cause pain. Nice to at least talk to a doctor who doesn't look blankly at me when I talk about being a walking barometer.
NCGram, I see your name in the online list.
4-star quilter's corner is relocated here if you want to take a look, see if I missed anything.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/47
"Some of us are still eating hotdogs...and that's an astonishing thing." -- Wes Clark
Wesconsinites can call Public Radio 1-800-486-8655
the link isn't clickable... or is it? Just in case here it is hopefully clickable:
http://www.wpr.org/webcasting/live.cfm
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
why we keep experiencing wide threads? I was rarely effected by it on the old blog, but it seems to happen faily often here. Is it a link thing?
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Hi Dear Blog!
Cannot remain but a moment, but I saw on Old GD that LJM could not contact her family members and I just wanted to extend my "light" and prayers to her and her family during her waiting period.
Cannot be here too much right now, hopefully later I can catch up. And one big heaping note of praise to fellow Clarkistas for your brilliant questions on TPM yesterday to Wes! I caught only the earliest portion but was duly impressed with the discussion on many levels. What an innate leader we have found!
"Made for these times"
"Made for these times"
and yes, loading carbs if you're talking about eating left over flourless chocolate cake for breakfast:)
An archive for St Louis Post Dispatch editorial cartoonist R.J. Matson is here: http://tinyurl.com/af9ae . Some are St Louis specific, but some Iraq, Wal-Mart, general.
"In too many areas we have spawned 'leadership' that does not lead, that panders to our whims rather than telling us the truth, that follows the crowd rather than challenging us, that weakens us rather than strengthening us." - Sen. Paul Simon
There is a huge typhooon that will go straight through us tomorrow and the next day. It will not be pretty. Hope the electricity holds. In Taiwan there is no place to run and the typhoons are larger than the island. Still it iw where the eye of it goes through and we are elected by fate this time round.
Maybe it will veer north though. One never knows. It cannot be worse than the Hurricane on the Gulf Coast. Horrific! We are stunned by the video coverage and we are used to this stuff.
Noel
it's scary business, hope you and your loved ones AND CATS will be safe and secure through the typoon!
to head for your place in the hills? Be safe Noel & family!! I hope it veers north as it should.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Go to the mountains, Noel! Or take shelter in the Taipei 101 and ride the waves =)
Where are you in Taiwan again? My parents are both from there. Taichung for my mother and Beikang for my dad.
So i'm hoping its safe to post a little humor from today's Borowitz Report:
ARMY TO RECRUIT AT MTV MUSIC AWARDS
Rappers Could Skip Firearms Training, Pentagon Believes
One day after rap mogul Suge Knight was shot in the leg at a party celebrating the MTV Music Awards, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld announced that the Army would start recruiting soldiers for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan at all future installments of the popular awards show.
"We believe that the highest concentration of potential enlistees with extensive firearms experience may in fact be at the MTV Music Awards," Mr. Rumsfeld told reporters at the Pentagon.
The Defense Secretary said he was "impressed" when he heard that someone at the awards party had successfully shot Mr. Knight: "If one of those fellows had good enough aim to hit Suge Knight in the leg, imagine what they could do to some of those pesky Iraqi insurgents."
He said that by recruiting soldiers at the MTV Music Awards, the Army would be gaining a pool of enlistees who would require no firearms training whatsoever, saving the Pentagon and U.S. taxpayers billions of dollars a year.
"Teaching these guys how to use a gun would be a serious waste of time," Mr. Rumsfeld said. "It would be like teaching Courtney Love how to snort powder up her nose."
While the Defense Secretary would not specify how the Army would induce rappers to enlist, he told reporters, "We are fully prepared to offer them a Cadillac Escalade, and we may throw in a ho or two as well."
Elsewhere, in medical news, redheads who spend time in the sun and eat French fries and potato chips should already be dead by now.
I don't approve of political jokes.....I've seen too many of them get elected.
Wes commented that the GI bill could also be an incentive for people to join the service. Maybe we should offer this for his thoughts too, as an alternative.
this is exactly what he had in mind, however.....LOL!
I don't approve of political jokes.....I've seen too many of them get elected.
OMG Herr Bush is so close I can almost sniff him. In San Diego. Poor San Diegans...
He is speaking to troops at the Naval Base-- talks about sacrifice and war and has to READ every single word. "freedom....sacrifice...patriots....sacred...enemies....
privelige.. ideals...honor...Laura Bush" Blah Blah Blah Blah
OH NO - He's there with Rumsfailed! POOR San Diegans..
Now he's lauding Rummy and telling him just how proud he is of him. It gets worse. He's introducing Duncan Hunter. I have to turn it off now or my bird will become ill.
TPM is cooking again. JOhn has a blog on it with 2 comments. We should rate it up for visibility. Knightrider started one too, but JOhn's is sort of the official one accessible from the front page.
You can find it over on the left - TPMCafe Day 2 by JOhn.
They're talking about how the Dems don't have anyone in a leadership position speaking for the anti-war crowd. She's talking about Feingold being the only one saying we should have a timetable to get out. Also talking about Gary Hart's articles. If anyone has good speaking ability to give General Clark's position, please call in!! I'm too fumble-mouthed to to a coherent talk show call in, I'm sorry! :(
1-866-303-2270
Listen live link is here:
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Thank you to everyone who addressed my wide blog question. Not happening on this thread but the last one was HUGE!! Gonna go eat some carbs now... polenta! yum!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
I am so sick of this approach I could scream!!! If I wasn't at work I'd get on the phone. Somebody, please set these people straight.
I don't approve of political jokes.....I've seen too many of them get elected.
at the blog there but it's a bunch of silly conversations having nothing to do with anything (with Katrina talk sprinkled throughout) and seems to be "regulars" who just gather to chat... hmmmm, not that theres anything wrong with that!! LOL!!
But there doesn't appear to be any serious discussion at all on the subject of the show. I could just be totally lost as I've never logged on there before...
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
That's Rachel Madow. I had to turn it off. She is insane.
"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all."
--Herbert Spencer: Nineteenth-century English social scientist
Hi Syb -
Yup, had checked in at 4 star quilters corner the first time I got here to new blog. Looks fine to me. Am looking forward to cooler weather when I'll start quilting again - too hot last couple of months.
Am gradually getting more comfortable with new CCN, learning my way around. Old dogs learn new tricks - slowly. Good to see so many familiar names and some new ones.
wacky christians want secession
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0828-03.htm
Published on Sunday, August 28, 2005 by the Los Angeles Times
Strategizing a Christian Coup d'Etat
A group of believers wants to establish Scriptures-based government one city and county at a time.
by Jenny Jarvie
a sense of freedom being out of there?
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
man, now i'm in blue state washington
Yeah, I hope these wack jobs will feel vey
comfortabel in Union, Walhala, Pickens, etc.
Hard to believe but gas had not gone up this morning in my area when I went out this morning. It was still at $2.59.9 (.9..snort which is what it was yesterday and the day before.
I went ahead and filled up my little old 13.5 gallon tank. Granting that it was really low it still choked me to hand the attendant $34. Of course if I waited to fill up till tomorrow on the way to work it would be worse no doubt.
Have much I should be doing today so will peek in from time to time.
LJM your relations have my prayers...I hope you get some word soon, the waiting to hear must be pure torture.
(((LJM)))
The frustrating thing is not being able to get a message in to let them know someone is coming for them. Also, to work it out to let the private ambulance in to get them. They aren't letting anybody into that area unless authorized.
My cousin in Atlanta e-mailed she saw on tv about the flooding reaching the cemetry where some of the family is, so now we are thinking about the dead relatives. We have generations of them buried in New Orleans. Could give new meaning to the term, 'lost at sea.'
I expect my relatives are tucked away in that house in Covington with no power and the heat rising, but probably OK. So many people in New Orleans are going to find they have nothing left. I'd be surprised if they let people rebuild in some of those badly flooded areas. I remember being in Florida, just after Andrew. What a mess and many of those people took their insurance money and moved to Naples, Florida. They didn't rebuild in Miami.
to hear about your problems. I've just tuned in here, and it does take a while to figure out what's going on.
But you know, I'm sure, that we're all pulling for you and yours.
((((LJM))))
thanks ellen, there's just no communication in or out of that town. There is a 24 hour curfew. Nobody is allowed to go in that Parrish. No power, boil order for water. It's in the 90's there. Lots of trees and powerlines down. That's all I know. Cell phone service is screwed up at the towers and such from flooding or power failures.
I must go to work... Shutting down now... honestt... getting in car... driving to work... I'm visualizing it... will it happen?
The anti military folks are showing their true colors over at the tpm cafe. Sad to see but this exposes some of their prejudices and conflicts for all to see. Too bad they probably use different logins at DU...
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"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all."
--Herbert Spencer: Nineteenth-century English social scientist
Someone also asked snottily what his answer to Cindy is, assuming the worst, I'm sure. So glad s/he asked. Gave "someone" the opportunity to post the General's wonderful response from the WaPost live blogging. Glad it is getting that visibility.
Continued prayers and light going out to your family in NO. Keep us posted please!
Good coverage HERE: http://www.wwltv.com/ with slideshows, streaming videos, etc. :(
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
'Binyamin Netanyahu has announced he is to challenge Prime Minister Ariel Sharon for the leadership of Israel's ruling Likud Party.'
LJM, my thoughts and prayers for you and your family members in NOLA. I have spent the morning talking with my friends from NOLA that live in Alb., and they haven't a clue where their family members are. They said they were leaving NO, but no one knows now where they went. No communication is making this very difficult.
Love and light to all!
Hi everyone. Please stop by JOhn's post on General Clark's 2nd day at TPM. It is dropping of the BOB list. Would sure like to see it have some visibility for new people dropping by today.
when I first came on earlier, I 10'd it and it dropped down the list right after that. Made me question if 10 is really good or 10 is really bad! LOL!!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Just popping in to say hey one and all. Not sure where everyone hangs out here these days. Having some PC issues still, so not been around much. I hate dialup!
Anyway, left work a couple hours early to gather my things for tonight. I'm taking a camcorder and hope I can get to use it there, so if it's an open event, and if I get any vid, I'll try to get it uploaded somehow, but might be very late. Will be heading out in a couple hours.........this will be my second time seeing Wes LIVE. Never thought I'd have a first, but was so delighted to have him come to a nearby community. He was so fine on MTP Sunday. Guess I missed him on wisconsin public radio. Had I known, I would have scooted to the parking lot to call in. I've been on that show a couple times now.........lol.
Will be thinking of all of you unable to attend and will send him the best from his CCN family. Ron Kind is very nice. I've met him before. Tho we can't vote for him, we'll donate to his campaign. Will hang here for a few and than back to gathering my stash and maybe take a quick nap........i'm beat.
Oh, any special messages you want me to pass on to him? Can I hug him for any of you? bwahahahahahaha.........couldn't resist.
Looking forward to any video you may have!
Just wondering if the National Guard In MS and LA may have been overburdened to deal with domestic disasters, given theier deployment in Iraq.
:)
Bush "is campaigning" to take credit for the disaster relief efforts in New Orleans, apparently. But, it's like adding salt on a wound! I think relief should have been more expansive by now. Therefore, his obstruction into FEMA and Red Cross organizing efforts is another disaster waiting to happen, especially since Bush deployed over 33% of LA's National Guard forces to Iraq, while blocking funding to prepare New Orleans against Category 5 hurricanes..
Please tell him what a pleasure it has been for us to be so in touch with him recently (WaPo article and blog, MTP, Talking Points, and the times he shows up here!)
AND we're so glad he's presenting such a fine 'dem' position/policy for Iraq.
HAVE A GREAT TIME, Ice!
Have a GREAT time, and yeah, big giant hugs from CCN!! So happy you're taking your camcorder!! and sorry to hear about the dial up probs.
Mostly you can find people by looking at the "recent comments". It's been pretty quiet since we've moved here except a couple times. Not sure if it's 'cuz of the place or if everyone's just busy with other things...
Hear from ya later!! (((((hugs)))))
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Thank you once again for capturing Wes again on video. I hope you get in without a hitch.
New General Discussion seems to be the place to go, with recent blog posts to click on if you are looking for a way to get back on a "thread" to find where you were if you left... though it is still hard as hell to go back and find stuff without numbered posts. ugh!
Have a great time. Tell Wes "I think he's terrific!" Bwahaha!
Just got this email & moments later, one from the Clinton Global Initiative- Wes will be attending a CGI event just days from now.
Here's Harry's battle plan:
The 10 Step Plan to Take Back the Senate
Get the Democratic Message Out
Recruit Top-Tier Candidates
Coordinate all Levels of the Democratic Party
Build the Best Technology
Expose Right-Wing Republicans
Speak Directly to the Voters
Recruit a Grassroots Army
Empower Activists With Our Message
Outsmart Our Opponents
It All Starts With You
Republicans in Washington think they have a new "permanent majority." I have seen just how far they will go to satisfy their extreme right-wing base because they don't think anyone can stop them. So far, in this session of Congress, the United States Senate has been open for business for 101 days. And, for 101 days, Republicans have ignored the needs of the American people.
Senate Republicans found over 30 days to debate right-wing judges, but wouldn't give an extra minute to supporting our troops or providing for the needs of our Veterans. If you're an Exxon lobbyist, a right-wing judge, or a White House leaker, then, yes, this may have been a productive session, as Republicans claim. If you're a member of a working family, struggling to afford health care and looking for help from Republicans in Congress, you must disagree.
The good news is that Senate Democrats have a roadmap for taking back the Senate in 2006 and stopping the right wing from taking over our country. We're going to out-organize, out-maneuver, and out-raise the Republicans to stop to their extremist agenda and return to the business of the American people. And you are the secret weapon.
http://digbig.com/4ejxg <---- endorse the roadmap
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Am I the only one who misses the text formatting of ccn 1?! :)
Wes Clark: American Eagle
Am I the only one who misses the text formatting of ccn 1?!
The answer to that question is NO, you are not alone in this feeling. I, for one, miss it like crazy.....but I'm adapting and trying not to whine incessantly.
I don't approve of political jokes.....I've seen too many of them get elected.
if Harry's aware of the tabulators? Someone posted yesterday that Dems are not running in some of the Repub stronghold areas - made me wonder if it's 'cuz they know even if they win they won't win...
As for the text formatting, no you're NOT the only one. Do you know how to do the html stuff? The basics are easy - but I haven't got the link one down yet - usually use Brad Blog's cheat sheet which works great if you keep it in an open window for easy access.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
looking over the formatting at AirAmerica's blog, I noticed that the formatting is similar to CCN II; and I suspect they use Drupal software.
There's a big difference in overall web design, which I hope we adapt soon.
Also, they use MsWord editing features for ease of use function; and it looks less cluttered and use more logical "eye" friendly techniques such as appropriate font sizes to highlight user posts and comments.
You think that's the same software? I agree, it is MUCH easier to read (cleaner) and post there and today was the first time I ever saw it. I love the way the comment box is set up so you're not scrolling all over the place just to post and yeah, the formatting tools right under the comment box rock!! Maybe we should have them check out that blog as an example. They don't have numbered posts either though so maybe not the BEST example!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
That could be a problem, but I noticed that they color the headline bars to indicate new or old posts. Also, the use of .gif images and other colors makes it more engaging for users or lurkers to promote interest and participation, imo.
you can set it to read threaded, just like here! :)
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Drove to Madison to see the General; WESPAC fundraiser just before a Dem. fundraiser he'd be speaking at. (Gassed up at $2.72, it was $2.99 on the way back) Anyway...
Forum was a restaurant apparently owened by Albanians who contributed the space (not may people ate; we did for support) and spread the word, along with Vet groups and some Dem party activists. I counted 91 people there, and couldn't see everybody, so a turnout of 100 wouldn't be lying. Donjo, Dormaphea (sp?), and Vicky were there (I'm terrible with names & they were flying fast, apologies in advance to anybody I missed.) and 4star (who attended UW in Madison) came in from New Jersey where she recently moved.
Wes spoke on, well, the usual topics, nothing really new. It's so refreshing to hear a speech that makes SENSE. Then took questions from the audience. Several from Albanians with heavy accents; one had his son translate for him. Speech and questions heavy on Iraq, war, and how to handle terror. I was busy shooting photos, wasn't concentrating.
I'll be editing/posting photos to UnitedForClark, will notify as I get them uploaded. I have several panoramic shots that need to be stitched together to show the crowd, so it'll be a little while.
The 'collection plate' was nicely filled with checks, they hadn't added them up, but I'm sure it was into 4 figures. I tossed in $100, and the check below was for $200 (out of maybe several dozen) so I hope WESPAC does OK. He'll be flying north for another speech, so should get a good infusion.
I'm sure I forgot stuff, so feel free to ask. I'll keep an eye while photo-editing.
So great that you felt well enough to go! Can't wait to see your photos! You know General Clark's blogging at TPMCafe today, yes? I heard a bit of him on the radio earlier, but unfortunately, came in right when the host lost the connection!! He called back for one last question - don't know how long he was on but it was GREAT!!
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
That's what we created in this country. That's in our Constitution. ... I think we should be very clear on this. You know, this country was founded on the principals of the Enlightenment. It was the idea that people could talk, reason, have dialogue, discuss the issues. It wasn't founded on the idea that someone would get stuck by a divine inspiration and know everything right from wrong. I mean, people who founded this country had religion, they had strong beliefs, but they believed in reason, in dialogue, in civil discourse. We can't lose that in this country. We've got to get it back.
Wes Clark - September 5, 2003