Old General Discussion 6:28EDT
Submitted by JustTalking on August 30, 2005 - 6:27pm.
New Thread!
Old Thread: http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/203
You can always find the latest general discussion here:
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/blog/170
To be in BoB, it's got to have a perfect 10. Within the posts that have perfect 10's, it seems to be random.
I just rated down a few older posts that had perfect 10's to make them disappear and they did. I feel guilty, though. They didn't deserve it!
yea they did if they're stale
That's the problem with that kind of rating system...straight tens by 5 people does not a 'classic' make. A 9 is a high rating...if the first person to read it gives it a 9 then it's doomed to fall right off into nowhere.....
So we must be very discerning when rating posts lest we have to look at it for 3 weeks or a month...
"Some of us are still eating hotdogs...and that's an astonishing thing." -- Wes Clark
Wes's TPM day 2 disappeared. :(.
The one we need to get rid of is the Old discussion from 9PM last night. It has been there all day. Too bad we can't change ratings, or unrecommend. Since I already rated it up originally, I can't rate it down now.
Looking now, we have 2 OLD discussions on BoB.
to say the same thing O'Linda... I want to find the TPM day 2 thread as well and it's gone... Not sure how to solve the problem of GD threads making it to BoB so they're visible and then not being able to get them off there... :(
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Larry posted a new blog for a new topic, and still Day 2.
I swear I might actually post a comment at TPM is I were home. Don't want to rush. I prefer to humiliate myself here.
our prayers are with those who are struggling to survive on the gulf coast and in New Orleans. Please find your way to a safe place to repair your lives, while your city is repaired.
Donate to the Red Cross or Salvation Army, watch and listen.
Going to a Democratic fundraising dinner for my county party. It's the only way to try and change what's wrong in Kansas. Why am I typing in red?
don't look red to me? :)
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
How come I have yet to see any aerial photo or video or photo from the French Quarter or Garden District? Is it because it's still not flooded?
They also are not allowing too much air traffic in there. Someone I know does some work for insurance companies and he wanted to overfly New Orleans. It took HOURS for him to get his clearance. He had to let them know who he was working for, where he was going to overfly, how long he was going to be there, etc, etc, etc, and then they took hours to give him the okay.
Wes posted a new topic on Boys and Girls Clubs.
Please stop by the new CCN blog here too and rate it up so new people can learn about Wes's blogging at TPM.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/212
Okay I just rated Old G.S. an 8 and it's still at BoB's. So it does not have to be a perfect 10!
"Some of us are still eating hotdogs...and that's an astonishing thing." -- Wes Clark
lest a BoB ends up showing forever. I will not rate the NEW GDs either. Since I can't rate posts, I guess that's the end of rating for me. LOL!
You can still get a beignet and coffee from Cafe du Monde. They said there are only superficial damages around there.
Are we actually defending Iraq's oil from terrorists?
"President Bush on Tuesday answered growing anti-war protests with a fresh reason for American troops to continue fighting in Iraq: protection of the country's vast oil fields that he said would otherwise fall under the control of terrorist extremists.
Bush, standing against a backdrop of the imposing USS Ronald Reagan, the newest aircraft carrier in the Navy's fleet, said terrorists will be denied their goal."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/08/30/national/w124551D09.DTL
Blue State of Mind
your links as this site is even more sensitive that CCNI to long links and we are just at the beginning of this thread.
Just another screw up in a long list of 'em. *ucker Carlson was on the Al Franken show today, and even he, a conservative, ripped into Bush. It's kind of like the bit Stewart did with the author of Thomas Jefferson, where he said, look, let's find some common ground. And the guy said, John, you and I may disagree on whether we should have gone into Iraq, but we are there now. We do agree on Bush screwing it up and read my piece in the Weekly Standard if you don't believe me.
There's one thing that EVERYONE can agree on. The planning for the post-military phase of the war was atrocious. Democrat, republican, conservative, liberal, unless you're drinking the Kool-Aid at the Bush palace -- don't call it a ranch, folks, cause there ain't no cattle there -- you cannot say there was good planning for the post combat phase.
Wow, so it looks like the MSM is implying that Clark bashed Feingold for setting a deadline for withdrawing from Iraq. Although, Clark never mentioned Feingold's name in any of his articles, MTP, etc let alone criticizing him for setting a deadline.
Reginald Fields
Plain Dealer Bureau
Columbus - Four of every five dollars requested by Attorney General Jim Petro for special counsel contracts for this fiscal year will go to law firms that have given money to his political campaigns.
By a 4-to-2 vote along party lines, the State Controlling Board on Monday approved Petro's request for $19.1 million for 123 unbid contracts.
The contracts include a $375,000 deal for Bailey Cavalieri law firm to handle a Bureau of Workers' Compensation lawsuit against MDL Capital Management, accused of losing $215 million in BWC money through risky investments.
The Columbus firm replaces Schottenstein Zox & Dunn, a Petro supporter, whose contract was not renewed. Bailey Cavalieri has not donated to Petro.
But state Democratic leaders said 41 of the 57 law firms receiving contracts on Monday have given Republican Petro more than $800,000 since 1998. Those same firms yesterday were awarded $15.4 million in contracts.
"It's a legalized kickback scheme," said Subodh Chandra, former Cleveland law director and a Democratic candidate for attorney general next year.
Petro will relinquish the seat to seek his party's nomination for governor in 2006.
"These special counsel contracts certainly seem to indicate a pay-to-play pattern," said Sen. Ray Miller, a Columbus Democrat and a member of the controlling board.
Petro's office accused Miller of dirty politics.
"We consider this a ridiculous partisan attack, this implication that we are doing something wrong," Petro spokesman Mark Anthony said.
Anthony said Petro has raised more than $6 million since 1998. And, because he is an attorney and attorneys routinely give to political campaigns, it's understandable that $800,000 would come from that profession, he said.
Anthony said he is unsure how much money those same firms might have drawn in fund-raisers for Petro.
He added that more than 60 percent of the firms receiving contracts on Monday have done work for the state dating back more than a decade, including under Democratic Attorney General Lee Fisher.
But while Petro's office blasted Democrats for being out of line, another Republican who wants to be attorney general said the guidelines for special counsel contracts need to be changed.
"I want to remove even the appearance of a pay-to-play concept," said Sen. Tim Grendell of Chester Township, who will run for attorney general next year. "I'm not saying anything is being done wrong today. I just have a real concern that we are spending too much on outside counsel."
Grendell said he would like to see a bipartisan, independent committee review all contracts and draw up specific criteria - more than what the law already stipulates - for when special counsel can be used.
Also yesterday, Washington, D.C.-based Groom Law Group was awarded a $175,000 contract to be fiduciary counsel for the BWC as it continues to assess its investment losses.
And Frost Brown Todd, a Columbus firm, will be retained with a $200,000 contract. Former bankruptcy Judge William Bodoh of the firm, another Petro contributor, is overseeing the liquidation of the bureau's scandal- ridden coin fund.
To reach this Plain Dealer reporter:
rfields@plaind.com, 614-228-8200
The second to last line in your post....shorten it. It's lengthening the thread big time. Thanks.
"I am the blogger formerly known as clarkuistador"
As you just discoverd email addresses do not autoformat on here. You can either use a full HTML mailto with an anchor tag or put spaces within the email address the way many did on the old site. Either way it will come up in a readable format.
Barry
I thought it was another post that had widened the blog because I tinyurled. It seems that what lengthened the blog is that this site will not accept email addresses as on the line that went crazy only the reporter's email and phone # was given.
I probably should've stayed in bed today!!
Again, humble apologies.
I've had wide blog problems on many of the GD threads since we've been here, but not this one. I don't think it's your post.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
You are not expected to know you can't put an email address in here - until it happens to you, or you witness it.
It is really a problem and the Admins need to fix it. I am sure it can be fixed. Although we should often put soNso AT whatever dot com in order to reduce scraping and spamming, you should still be able to cut and paste a plain email without having a problem.
I deliberately included the email address and the phone numbers as I thought the Ohions may want to respond.
Don't ever reply to a "bad" post. Once you reply, the author can't edit it!!!
Exactly! If we can get larry's or JOhn's attention, I think one of them can go in and edit it. I see larry's online.
Update: larry - also, this should not be happening. Can this be corrected? An email should be able to be posted as is, without this happening. The instructions also say so. No one would suspect you can't cut and paste an email into the blog. Is it just something that needs to be configured differently? Thank you.
I also posted this under the Eye of the Storm thread:
All,
Have not been on the blog the last few days because of my sister and her friend left the Mississippi Gulf Coast late Saturday night to get to my place in Huntsville. It looks like I will have long term guests at the house. I don't if you all remember, but my sister was with me at the NCCM. Well anywho -- her work is completely under water and it appears she and her friend Joannie (who is disabled) lost everything. I am a little overwhelmed by all of this -- never has someone so close to me lose soooo much -- so I would like some extra prayers and white light to be sent to myself, my sister Faye and Joannie. Much love and thanks to you all -- ((((CLARKIES)))) are the best.
How is LJM and Clearsky??? I pray that they and their families are fine.
Clark is DA MAN
Clark2008
(((Bev)))
We haven't heard from Clearsky...not in several weeks, actually. LJM is working on getting her relatives evacuated from the area.
How wonderful of LJM!!!
I have tears I tell you --
When you can do good you should!! :)
Clark is DA MAN
Clark2008
Thank God they left when they did and made it safely to you. I'm so sorry they've lost everything. Light and prayers streaming out to you, your sis and Joannie.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Been raining steadily here since early afternoon. Such a minor thing compared to what is going on in the path of Katrina. My heart breaks for the people there. I keep telling myself to turn the TV to something else yet I can't.
So much destruction. So much pain.
here too. Steady solid rain all day. I think we're expecting floods by morning, at least I heard a snip of the news from Cleveland where they gave that little blurb and said tune in at 11... Geez, you'd think if we're expecting floods they could tell us NOW instead of making us wait and tune in at 11???
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
The Groundswell That Never Was
HuffingtonPost
Today’s editorial ended on a melodramatic note: “If Judith Miller loses this fight, we all lose. This is not about Judith Miller or The Times or the outing of one CIA agent. The jailing of this reporter is about the ability of a free press in America to do its job.”
Give me a break. This is about none of these things. This is about Judith Miller. And about what role she played in the smearing of a whistleblower. And before we hang the future of the freedom of the press and the vitality of the First Amendment on her, it would be helpful to know whether she was simply an observer of that smearing or an active participant. It would also be interesting to hear from the Times why it has deviated from its own ethical guidelines, which make it clear that the paper’s policy does not permit the granting of anonymity to confidential sources ‘as cover for a personal or partisan attack’. That would certainly seem to include the commission of a felony. But I could be missing something.
Maybe Pedro Almodóvar can fill us all in.
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia
Gosh, I miss the ole blog. I hope you, your loved ones, your homes, and work-place are safe.
What happened, it's enormous. Is there anything we can do?
No, unless larry or JOhn stop by and fix it. Maybe we should start a new one? Someone has voted this down. Not sure if we're being sabotaged, or maybe someone is starting a new one. It will take me too long to figure it out, as I've never done it before - haven't even done a blog entry of my own, but if someone more experienced wants to start one - probably a good idea.
That really bugs me. Is someone rating down because they are starting a new thread, or are trolls about? We need to be able to see who is rating what.
This one looks like its terminally wide.
Hey, this place is more like old CCN than we thought...lol.
No quick fix for New Orleans' breached levees
No quick fix for New Orleans' breached levees
Repair crews dump sand, 3,000 pounds at a time, on the problem
By Mike Stuckey
Senior News Editor
MSNBC
Updated: 8:32 p.m. ET Aug. 30, 2005
As failing levees allowed the murky waters of Lake Pontchartrain to inundate the streets of New Orleans on Tuesday, one thing was becoming clearer: Staunching the flood tide was not likely to be a quick fix.
Confusion persisted for much of the day over where the levees in the below-sea-level city had been breached and how badly. But as evening fell, the most serious problem continued to be “a large section of the vital 17th Street Canal levee, where it connects to the brand new ‘hurricane proof’ Old Hammond Highway bridge,” according to the Web site of the New Orleans Times-Picayune. Smaller breaches were reported elsewhere.
The main gap, caused by Hurricane Katrina’s storm surge and hundreds of feet wide, allowed millions of gallons of water from Lake Pontchartrain to flood scores of neighborhoods across the city. The water was high enough in the downtown district by 5 p.m. that Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said the tens of thousands of people huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers would have to be evacuated.
read more in the article ...
Or not. Time for me to read HTML for dummies.
