Sat, 29 Oct 2005 10:00:01 -0700
Can anybody give me contact information for either Larry of Brent?
Like immediately or .....sooner than that would be good,
Thanks, appreciate it!
Tomorrow Eric will be live-blogging on three different blogs simultaneously with three different topics. You can read about it here:
Radiation anybody? Ain't bad. I'm getting 1/3 of a fatal (if whole-body) dose of X-rays "where my colon cancer used to be." No overt symptoms, just tired. Beam misses pelvis bone marrow which WOULD have messed with white-blood cell counts. I'm itching to get back in the fray afterwards. The 2000-death vigil in Milwaukee got about 200 people, very positive vehicle response.
I took over as Organizer of the Milwaukee Reupublican Meetup; the fun is WAY worth the $19.95/mo. Nothing but bad news & bad locations. I learned during the campaign that counter-ops is the most effective technique. I wonder how insulting I can get before somebody outs me.... Repugs seem too lazy to take the extra mouse clicks.
<i>Double-whammy today (10-28-05); Scooter indicted, with comparisons to Spiro Agnew inevitable. This petulant little act of retaliation is growing into a major headache. Until now it was "below the radar" with little voter interest; I fear this will change.
And stunning oil company profits announced. Connections to Texas oil company "cronies" (I'm sure this word will get used) campaign contributions will be made.
And a Supreme Court nominee bombed by our own party.
These events need to be spun into positives, and some excitement brewed, or we'll see years more of Doyle, Kohl, and other Democraps.
How do we re-energize? Come to the meetup & toss in your ideas. </i>

haha,... funny stuff :), consider this is anti-neocon therapy for the right wing.
"Debate, Dialogue, Discussion, Disagreement - that's not wrong -that's not unpatriotic, that's one of the highest forms of patriotism and love of country, and we need to say it!" - Gen. Wesley Clark (US Ret.)
or has it?! Hang in their, guy. We wish you the best. We still have to get together somewhere in the state sometime - hopefully at a Wes event!
Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark
Jeff, good to hear from you and hang in there! I have one of the Clark08 bumper stickers on my car thanks to you, and everytime I see it I think of you. There will be many opportunities for Clarkies to help out in IL and WIS next year - we need you back on your feet!

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10/29/2005 3:22:00 PM
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"Debate, Dialogue, Discussion, Disagreement - that's not wrong -that's not unpatriotic, that's one of the highest forms of patriotism and love of country, and we need to say it!" - Gen. Wesley Clark (US Ret.)
Is now at my blog. This was the private blogger meeting we had before the reception began. I will blog Part 2 later and try to get the photos up by tonight as well, link the diary to the Webshots link. Later!
It was a magical evening all in all.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/2151

everyone I know who has done what you're doing says radiation is easier to take than the chemo. Everyone says it makes them tired. So, think of it like surfing and just go with it. Hope you finish this treatment soon.

That's what I've heard too. Get lots of rest, Jeff.
www.clarkbuttons.com (did I mention they're free?)
Never believe an oncologist. First it was maybe 2 weeks of radiation. Then 3. Now 5 1/2. And added chemo! 5-fluoro-uracil is a 'radio-enhancer' that gives a double-whammy to the zap. Supposed to be an easy dose compared to chemo (same chemical). And indeed, it is 1/4 the dose. BUT... I get it for 38 days straight, as opposed to 2 days every 14!

that sucks, how much longer do you have to do this? How's your appetite? If you feel like eating bribe yourself with Ben and Jerry's or something.
The LA times has an article about the possible reason (they seem pretty sure!) why Rove got his last-minute reprieve:
It had to do with some emails that "prove" that Rove could easily have forgotten his conversation with Matt Cooper. Pretty weak if true!! If this report is the case, my new theory is that, being the thorough kind of guy that Fizty is, he will give it some thought, come to the conclusion that it's total BS, and INDICT ROVE NEXT WEEK!!
I hope I hope I hope!

I agree, that the I'm a busy guy and can't remember defense is weak. It's the same one Libby is using now. I just don't see how they can let Rove off for this. They should charge him and let a jury of 12 people in DC hear the facts and decide beyond a reasonable doubt if he's got a faulty memory. Joe and Valerie Wilson are owed that much. We all know Rove is official A who leaked her name and status to Novak. Joe Wilson had that part right all along.
Right--some people at firedoglake were theorizing that they could have faked this email after the fact, but it sounds like a lot of trouble, and if they were going to do that shouldn't they have thought of something a little better? Like, "Scooter, outing a CIA agent is a CRIME! Horrors!"

is, did he tell they guy he leaked the info to Novak? Was this guy in the loop? McClellan says Rove told him he didn't leak the information. Rove seemed to be doing lots of lying by omission and assuming that reporters would protect him for what he told them as a source.
It does seem like a pretty weak defense! I'm surprised they even tried it.
Then again, there are other theories: the lawyers were just trying to stall, this story is just a cover for the real story, like Rove offered some dirt on Cheney or something and Fitz wants to check it out, etc etc..

why Fitz didn't use conspiracy. Rove told Libby he leaked the information to Novak. Clearly, Libby and Rove were working on the same objective. They may have had different motives, but the intent to slime the Wilsons was the same. Then it's not even a case about lying and who recalls what.
Fitz can't/shouldn't bring out conspiracy until other characters are involved; if he brought it up now it would tip his hand that Rove was under indictment. Therefore we WILL see a conspiracy charge if/when the charges against Rove (& Cheney?) come out.

if Rove and Cheney are such busy people that they didn't remember, why didn't they just tell the GJ they didn't remember? Judy Miller wrote about Fitz going to great detail to explain to her if he asks her a question and she doesn't remember, say, "I don't remember." This must be standard for what he tells all witnesses before they open their mouths before the GJ. Libby is a lawyer. He should know to say, "I don't remember," if that's the truth. As for Rove and the truth, would he know it if it came up and smacked him in the face?

The memory defense doesn't fly. Libby kept notes; you know he referred to them before testifying and probably hoped that they would never be seen by the prosecutor.
Curious, how they weren't destroyed in the 12 hour head-start Ari Fleischer gave everyone, isn't it?
My money is on Rove - he stuck the knife in Libby's back to protect GWB. Cheney may go down too, but Rove will be responsible for the information that just "happens" to turn up.
Here is a story about prisoner abuse posted last month by PAfor Clark.
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/1217
Last night General Clark implored us to follow up on this man's (Captn Fishback's) story and not let it die. If anyone is in the area (North Carolina ) or has any special connections that might help us to pick this up and run with it, please don't hesitate. He even said to us "Get down to Ft. Bragg, go interview the guy"--

I added the link to this letter on my blog.
http://balkin.blogspot.com/2005/09/captain-fishbacks-letter-to-senator.html
Thanks PA, excellent letter. I can see now why the General is so involved with this guy.
Do we have any news of what's happened to him lately?

turns up mainly commentary on his letter and the Human Rights Watch report. Nothing about him personally. Nothing about charges from the Army which were threatened, but the MO would be to announce it months after they actually did it.
This letter needs to be posted everywhere - on DU, MyDD,
dailykos, and yes maybe even in freeperville.
In addition it should be sent to each of our two Senators and our Reps.
drsusan
Action.
Good idea to send it off to reps. Maybe with a plea from the Clark Community? I had not read PA's blog when it was posted, missed it somehow , so was unaware of the story.

The first evangelicals fought for free trade because they thought it would encourage virtuous behavior, but two centuries of capitalism have taught a different lesson, many times over. The wages of sin are often, and notoriously, a private jet and a wicked stock-option package. The wages of hard moral choice are often $5.15 an hour. Free markets don't promote public virtue; they pro-mote private interest. In this way they are neither "free" (that is, independent of human influence) nor uniformly helpful in promoting freedom. Market trends are not truly indicative of the kind of society that Americans wish to create for their children. Consumer demand—for gated homes, exurban sprawl, or fluorescent-dyed sugar titration kits called cereal—does not reflect democratic political choice. If indeed economics is this society's most authoritative version of its own story, ours is a notoriously unreliable narrator.
-- Gordon Bigelow
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"One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica
up; can someone go over and bring it over here, please? I am using someone else's computer and not doing too well!
I posted the article she's discussing above: the post is kind of long, I'll import some choice excerpts! Warning: may contain language unsuitable for children.
Well, fortunately Mr. Rove himself provided some illumination through statements this morning to the LA Times:
As recently as Tuesday, for example, prosecutors began to focus on a 2003 e-mail exchange between Rove and a White House colleague. The exchange could be seen as supporting Rove's contention that he had not intentionally misled investigators.Lawyers familiar with the case believe these e-mails were one element of a broad, eleventh-hour review of evidence — coupled with negotiations by Rove's lawyers — that led Special Prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald not to include him in Friday's action.
(snip)
The e-mail exchange reviewed by prosecutors was between Rove and former White House media spokesman Adam Levine, and it focused on a topic unrelated to Plame or Wilson.
The exchange occurred several hours after Rove had talked to Time reporter Cooper. Prosecutors went back and interviewed Levine again this week, asking whether Rove had mentioned his conversations with Cooper. Rove did not initially tell investigators about his conversation with Cooper. In another session, Rove recalled that he had spoken with the reporter.
Levine told investigators that Rove had not brought up Plame or the Cooper conversation — suggesting that the topics were not priorities for Rove at the time.
"Levine's acknowledgment that the Cooper conversation did not come up in my client's conversation with Rove seems to support a theory that it just wasn't that important to Rove and could therefore have been easily forgotten," said Daniel French, Levine's attorney.
Okay. So let me get this straight. This is your fucking defense? After twenty-two months and untold man hours, we're supposed to believe that Fitzgerald abandoned the idea of pressing perjury charges against Rove because he didn't mention something to Adam Levine?
Fucking hell, I'll be your alibi, Turdy. I didn't talk with you about it, either.
If that's the best spin Rove can come up with, stick a fork in him 'cos he's done.
from firedoglake

How does the fact the Rove didn't email Levine about his conversation with Cooper prove anything? And are these emails that "surfaced" 2 years later?
Forgery, forgery, forgery and not relevant.
I don't buy it.
And the fact that Fitzgerald was at the office of Mr. President's private lawyer (not the Harriet Miers private counsel) on Friday is curiouser and curiouser.
But I hope all of this is true because I don't see how Fitz would accept such a weak defense!!
"Tell it to the judge" that's what I would say!!
But I doubt it is forgery--from what I've read, it's really hard to do, it involves LOTS of people, and if it was that hard why wouldn't they come up with something other than a "non-mention" of the topic at hand?
They also mentioned over there that Adam Levine is kind of a has-been and no one tells him anything anyway. LOL.

For some wonderful edification on the finer points of the indictments, go and visit emptywheel over at the next hurrah, who is going over them with a fine tooth comb. The depth of her knowledge is just amazing.
Oh and take a peek over at DKos, where one of the top o' the recommended list is a diary about how Redd got it right and the MSM got it wrong.
Digby: "Can there be any doubt that the Bush administration bet the farm on the idea that the press would keep their mouths shut? And can we all see that they were very close to being right? If Fitzgerald hadn't been willing to take it to the mat, they would have gotten off scott free. "
Gilliard: "The funny thing is that after five years of Bush, people are so cynical that they think he can just throw up a few lies and walk away. He can't, much less pardon anyone. All the conservative bleeting about the indictment is just that, bleeting. It isn't serious....No, this is isn't Watergate, this is worse, because the criminality goes right to the WH. No henchmen acting on their own. It is likely this came from Cheney himself."
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - Hunter/Garcia

What's going on in occupied Texas? I am becoming convinced that first Bush and Co ruined Texas and then decided to do it to the rest of the country.
"AUSTIN, Texas -- A higher percentage of Texas households were at risk of going hungry over the past three years than in any other state, according to data released Friday by the U.S. Agriculture Department.
Between 2002 and 2004, more than 16 percent of Texas households at some point had trouble providing enough food for all their family members, the USDA report said."
Fake flu shots? They've got to be kidding - Texas again.
"Outside Contractor Hired by Exxon-Mobil Gave Some Texas Employees Fake Flu Shots, Authorities Say
The Associated PressThe Associated Press
BAYTOWN, Texas Oct 28, 2005 — Fake flu shots were given out last week at a health fair at Exxon Mobil Corp.'s Baytown complex and an investigation was under way, authorities said.
Exxon Mobil spokeswoman Treacy A. Roberts said Thursday that the FBI told the company that what was administered "definitely not the flu vaccine."
It doesn't appear that the fake shots were harmful, but steps were being taken to ensure workers' safety, U.S. Attorney Chuck Rosenberg said in a statement Thursday."

COULD BUSH BE in big trouble...Fitz was seen at Samborn's office after Rove's attorney had a last minute meeting with Fitz and before indictments were released.
Mr. Fitzgerald was spotted Friday morning outside the office of James Sharp, Mr. Bush's personal lawyer. Mr. Bush was interviewed about the case by Mr. Fitzgerald last year. It is not known what discussions, if any, were taking place between the prosecutor and Mr. Sharp. Mr. Sharp did not return a phone call, and Mr. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, declined to comment.
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006889.php
Give me one more medicated peaceful moment...!!!!

Joe....Wilson talks to 60 Minutes correspondent Ed Bradley, in his first interview since Fitzgerald announced the indictment of I. Lewis Libby, Sunday, Oct. 30, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
"There have been specific threats [against Plame]. Beyond that I just can’t go," Wilson tells Bradley. Wilson says he and his wife have discussed security for her with "several agencies."
Former CIA colleagues say that by revealing her identity, harm could be caused to the CIA’s agents and operations. "If a CIA agent is exposed, then everyone coming in contact with that agent is exposed," says Jim Marcinkowski, a former CIA agent who trained with Plame at the top-secret Virginia facility known as "the Farm." "There is a possibility that there were other agents that would use that same kind of a cover. So they may have been using Brewster Jennings just like her," said Marcinkowski, referring to the fictional firm the CIA set up as her cover that also came out when journalists, including Robert Novak, disclosed it.
Marcinkowski also points out, "[Plame] is the wife of an ambassador, for example. Now, since this happened…they’ll know there’s a possibility that the wife of a U.S. ambassador is a CIA agent."
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/
Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - Hunter/Garcia

. Fitzgerald was spotted Friday morning outside the office of James Sharp, Mr.
Bush's personal lawyer. Mr. Bush was interviewed about the case by Mr. Fitzgerald last year. It is not known what discussions, if any, were taking place between the prosecutor and Mr. Sharp. Mr. Sharp did not return a phone call, and Mr. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, declined to comment.

as ms_in_la's report of last night's roundtable with Wes, MoDo wrote a terrific peice for the Time$ $elect Op/Ed section in today's NYT. I've blogged it in case anyone is interested. She goes right for Dick Cheney' throat: http://securingamerica.com/ccn/node/2154
I surely wouldn't want to be on her bad side.....
Can you somehow Repost your blog entry on Fishback and we can then vote it into Best of Blogs to increase awareness for everyone?
Not sure if you'd need to cut/ paste it into a new entry to do that....

I have copied the NYT article on Captain Fishback since it is no longer available on the website [that TimeSelect stuff comes in handy!] and reposted with the link to the text of the letter he sent to John McCain.
This is the Captain Fishback that MS in LA says Wes mentioned during their talk last night.

Something new in blogging.
Eric Massa will be liveblogging simulataneously on three different blogs tomorrow (Sunday October 30, 2005) with three completely different topics starting at 3pm Eastern. He will have to use his agile mind to the utmost to skip back and forth between three topics!
Menu:
MyDD: Eric Supporting Other Democrats
DKos: Fitzmas and the Indictment.
TPM Café: An energy piece.
Eric has been a congressional aide for General Wesley Clark and has been a staffer on the House Armed Services Committee in addition to serving in the Navy for 24 years. His knowledge and experience in so many different areas is unusual. Eric has been endorsed by well-known entities like Paul Hackett, General Clark and Max Cleland among others and has already garnered endorsements from seven of the eight county Democratic Commissions in his district. He has also been endorsed by a number of Unions and Labor groups in the district.
Please support Eric by participating in this liveblogging event and, if possible, sending a little money his way. You can donate at his site Massaforcongress.com.
Note the following sites for more information on Eric:
http://www.massaforcongress.com Here you can find his bio, statements on issues, and more.
And here is an introduction to Eric on kos:
http://mikepridmore.dailykos.com/ Introduces Eric as part of the Fighting Dems series.
I also have a special edition of the Clark Post dedicated to Eric:
http://www.clark-post.com Some news, stories and speeches about Eric.
Join Eric in this unique, ground-breaking blogathon. Have your questions ready and Eric will prove to be the most accessible candidate in blogging history.
Noel Schutz

Some of you post regularly on blogs that I am too unfamiliar with to negotiate. Can you please post the above announcement on your favorite blogs? I have trouble finding the blogs and where to comment. I did sneak one in on Atrios Open Thread.
Please give Eric a hand in the lacuna between indictments! Fitzmas is over and New Fitzyear hasn't arrived yet. Lol!
How is the birthday fundraiser for the General doing? Do we have any updates on how much has been raised or when we can see your new graphic?

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - Hunter/Garcia


"Debate, Dialogue, Discussion, Disagreement - that's not wrong -that's not unpatriotic, that's one of the highest forms of patriotism and love of country, and we need to say it!" - Gen. Wesley Clark (US Ret.)
BTW: Bill Clinton Live on C-Span2 (Texas Book Festival)