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Submitted by coonbug on September 12, 2005 - 10:35pm.

By Richard Morin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 12, 2005; 5:31 PM

President Bush's public standing has hit record lows amid broad support for an independent investigation of the federal response to Hurricane Katrina and calls for postponing congressional action on $70 billion in proposed tax cuts to help pay for storm recovery, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

President Bush's overall job approval rating now stands at 42 percent, the lowest of his presidency and down three points since Hurricane Katrina savaged the Gulf Coast two weeks ago. Fifty-seven percent disapprove of Bush's performance, a double-digit increase since January.

Post-ABC News Poll

President Bush's Approval Ratings

Bush's handling of Iraq and terrorism also have never been lower, according to the poll. Thirty-eight percent approve of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq and half the country now approve of the way Bush is handling the campaign against terrorism.

A clear majority--54 percent -- now disapprove of the way Bush is handling the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Even some members of Bush's own party appear to have lost faith in their leader: The president's overall approval rating among Republicans has declined from 91 percent in January to 78 percent in the latest poll. Overall, barely half the country now characterize Bush as a "strong leader" -- down 12 points since May of last year. And the percent who say he can be "trusted in a crisis" likewise has fallen from 60 percent to 49 percent now.

Con't...

WashingtonPost.com

I JUST GOT THE FEELING THAT THE MEDIA MAY BE TELLING ABOUT ALL THESE LOW POLL RATINGS SO THAT BUSH IN ABOUT A WEEK OR SO WILL GET A SUDDEN 'BUMP' IN THE POLLS FOR HIS WORK IN THE SOUTH.

AM I NUTS?

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Submitted by Fremont Troll on September 12, 2005 - 11:05pm.

He is not running for anything. Poll ratings now are just an indication of how few wingnuts are really having second thoughts. As soon as Rush is back on the radio in the damaged areas, his polls will rise as the kool-aid level is refilled.

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"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all."
--Herbert Spencer: Nineteenth-century English social scientist


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Submitted by tonyw on September 12, 2005 - 11:41pm.

All he's done with all the trips down there is keep people from doing their work, keep supplies from getting in, and so on.

Right now, el Presidente needs to stay the hell away.

The other thing that amazes me is that people ever saw him as a strong leader. What did he do after the planes hit? He went hiding.

And all that crap about how another hijacked plane was going to take out Air Force One? What-ev-er. Because Air Force One doesn't have a fighter escort or anything.

A strong leader would say, I'm going to Washington. I've got the best security in the world, and I am not running away from these terrorists.


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Submitted by Jdrake1776 on September 13, 2005 - 12:06am.

How are we going to servive the next 3 1/2 years with this Mad Man.I here he blasts people who give him bad news.Thank god we have Clark.WE have hope.

JDrake
Long Island For Clark


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 12, 2005 - 10:36pm.

n/t

Submitted by Judy from NJ on September 12, 2005 - 10:38pm.

I just got back from Rider University seeing Wes Clark. I'm back! Four of us were there - Maria (Icanbelieve..), RegNYC, and Melange. We got there early so we could get a good seat. Wes gave us a thumbs up sign as he went into the auditorium (I think he recognized Maria). There was a good crowd which filled the auditorium, about 150-200 people I would guess. Important things first - black suit, white shirt, and red tie, and looking great. He said he was in Amsterdam yesterday. (I don't know how he does it.) He gave essentually the same talk he gave at Steve Clemon's conference last week. He was very well received. There was a question and answer session afterwards, and he expanded on several themes - the need to talk to people, why is important that we and Europe remain united, what it means to be a democrat, the challenge posed by China. The most poignant moment was when a girl from Bosnia stood up and asked what was wrong with America. She talked about how she had admired and loved America when she was growing up, and how America had lost its ability to lead. She almost broke down when she was talking.

Afterwards, I got to shake his hand twice and get my book signed. :)

I'll try and remember more. It's a little bit of a blur now.

Submitted by coonbug on September 12, 2005 - 10:40pm.

You LUCKY dog you! I've never met or seen the man in person. I'd love a chance.

Submitted by Judy from NJ on September 12, 2005 - 10:49pm.

I just found out today, that they were letting anyone come. I'm so happy I made a phone call. He was great. He is so easy to listen to. I met a non-blogging lady who was a big Clark fan.

Oh! He said he will be in NJ to campaign for Corzine.

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Submitted by jen on September 12, 2005 - 10:46pm.

Thanks for reporting in Judy!! He's a dynamo isn't he? The energizer bunny! Wonder if I'd have that much energy if I swam everyday?

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia


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Submitted by Lara on September 12, 2005 - 11:23pm.

ability to pick leaders - whether through Diebold or willfull ignorance.

Anyone with a brain (who is not stinking rich and selfish) would not have voted for Shrub.


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Submitted by california4clark on September 12, 2005 - 11:59pm.

America has a history of wanting power, but not wanting to lead. For examples see:

League of Nations/Post-Versailles
Isolationism throught the 19th Century
Climate Change
NOW

"I am the blogger formerly known as clarkuistador"


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Submitted by Jdrake1776 on September 13, 2005 - 12:31am.

You are right on.

We are on our own. With Bush we are a Rouge Nation.With are wealth and jobs sent to China.Wealth sent to the OPEC.WE are less secure.

JDrake
Long Island For Clark


Submitted by bark on September 13, 2005 - 12:51am.

It's easy to feel like a million dollars flying back in time from Europe. It's going forward in time that makes you feel like s***!

Submitted by Vicky on September 13, 2005 - 8:37am.

After all the bad news lately it is so inspiring to read a first-hand report about a Clark appearance!!

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

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Submitted by icantbelieveimv... on September 13, 2005 - 8:41am.

Wes said, "Jesus didn't say 'thou shalt not have gay sex.' He said, 'Love thy neighbor as thyself.'" That got a big laugh. It was quite a liberal audience even though I think some of the students had to be there. (They were taking notes.)


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Submitted by mad4clark on September 13, 2005 - 8:55am.

Not sure if the crowd at UF is liberal or not but a giant portion of students are from the NE so.......probably.

"George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up."


Submitted by Melange on September 13, 2005 - 9:13am.

It was a great event. He got a few rounds of applause throughout the speech, then a standing O at the end. RegNYC is responsible for compiling notes - she had a tape recorder. For there being over 300 people there, it was a rather intimate event, I felt....or maybe that was just because I was with Maria whom he recognized, so I felt a little special.

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Submitted by jen on September 12, 2005 - 10:55pm.

Americans United for Separation of Church and State regarding my email to them about the Ohio Restoration Project:

Dear XX,

Thank you so much for your e-mail. We are very aware of the Ohio Restoration Project and are constantly working to dismantle their activities. If you would like to read more about AU’s involvement in ORP issues, please visit our website at http://www.au.org/site/PageServer. If you type “Ohio Restoration Project” into the search box in the upper right hand corner, you will find several articles and commentaries on the project.

We appreciate your dedicated support of Americans United and church-state separation. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to ask.

Sincerely,
Lauren Smith

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest places if you look at it right.
--Hunter/Garcia


Submitted by Vicky on September 13, 2005 - 8:38am.

Thanks for your work on this issue, Jen.

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

Submitted by MJ for Clark on September 12, 2005 - 10:55pm.

Hi Lady,
Have been trying to say hi back at you for a couple of weeks.
(((Ohio))) Boy do I miss the old blog! Good to see you.
Mary Jo

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 12, 2005 - 11:04pm.

MJ!

I haven't been on the blog much the past week or so. Unfortunately I've been battling some severe depression. Starting to get a handle on it I think...have to keep working at it.

How are you dear one?

I center way too much on myself and my woes sometimes, and I'm ashamed that I do it when I'm reminded what others are going through.

Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:41am.

Don't be ashamed. Often times it can be metabolic, hormonal, biochemical responses. Lots of grieving going on now -- you may just be very sensitized to the communal response.

It's important to allow yourself the sadness without beating yourself up over it. It's a sign you have the capacity for deep feelings and that's ultimately a GOOD thing! (even tho it may not feel like it now) We are surrounded by so much callous, cold fleshed governing right now, a feeling heart is a refreshing contrast.

Feel better (((((OHIO)))))-- But let yourself go through it....Be gentle with yourself.

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 1:05am.

You are such an angel.

Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 1:20am.

and bark is right too. One step at a time.

Another good thing to remember-- NOTHING ever remains the same. When you are depressed it can seem as if it's gone on eternally without a break and won't ever leave. But it will not stay the same. Cycles. It changes, lightens and eventually goes away. I do think it departs more swiftly when you fight it the least. So, like I said-- let yourself be, submit, and be gentle with yourself.

And that's an order!

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 1:25am.

she says meekly

One good thing about having insomnia...I get to see some of the left coasters posts while they're actually here...and that goes for a certain Aussie as well. :-)

Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 1:34am.

No stranger to Insomnia here! Coming from a family with various and sundry sleep disorders-- I got insomnia, sister got narcolepsy...

Hope you can catch some sleep tonight.
And don't forget the healing tonic of NATURE during your day. That's my last word of advice tonight!

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Submitted by Phoebe_in_Sydney on September 13, 2005 - 1:43am.

more clarkies would have insomnia. it'd be more fun for me (she says selfishly!)

You'd be taking them to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq. Wes Clark, CNN Aug 17 2003


Submitted by Barry_NJ on September 13, 2005 - 6:31am.

Since classes are back in session and the college has seen fit to assign 8 AM classes to me insomnia is totally out of the question. Its really bad form for the instructor to fall asleep in class. :)

Barry
Are you safer today than you were five years ago?

www.njforclark2008.com

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Submitted by icantbelieveimv... on September 13, 2005 - 7:26am.

If I think back to my student years, I'm not sure I would have noticed if the prof fell asleep in an 8am class, at least not so long as his snoring wasn't any louder than anyone else's.


Submitted by geaux on September 13, 2005 - 8:55am.

Is this a joke? No, I feel very much unsafe.

Submitted by bark on September 13, 2005 - 12:49am.

Just keep putting one foot in front of the other. It's much easier to move than stand still. In time you'll start to have more good days than bad, and feel like doing all the important things that still need doing.

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 1:07am.

Thank you dear...keep reminding me from time to time, I keep forgetting.

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Submitted by Phoebe_in_Sydney on September 13, 2005 - 12:54am.

You'd be taking them to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq. Wes Clark, CNN Aug 17 2003


Submitted by Vicky on September 13, 2005 - 8:43am.

You're always "here" ohio, even when you aren't! Some of us are more susceptible to depression than others. I've learned to honor it, listen to it, learn from it. And take some mild medication when I need it to function!

I've also got one of those little sound machines with an attachment that I can put right under my pillow. Set it to "brook" for 30-minutes and I'm out!!

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

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Submitted by icantbelieveimv... on September 13, 2005 - 8:49am.

I watch Harry Potter or listen to it on tape. I've watched it and listened to it so much that it lulls me to sleep. I bet that really pisses off the religious right.


Submitted by Vicky on September 13, 2005 - 9:00am.

The television will put me in dreamland as well. But keeps my husband awake! When he's out of town, I can put in some of Wes-on-the-campaign-trail videos and fall asleep with feelings of peace and security. SHHH.. He doesn't know there is another man in my bedroom when he's gone!! Not that he's got anything to worry about. We're all dedicated monogamists!!

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

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Submitted by Fremont Troll on September 12, 2005 - 11:01pm.


Taking Stock of the Forever War

By MARK DANNER
Published: September 11, 2005

excerpt:

Nearly two years ago, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, in a confidential memorandum, posed the central question about the war on terror: "Are we capturing, killing or deterring and dissuading more terrorists every day than the madrassas and the radical clerics are recruiting, training and deploying against us?" The answer is clearly no. "We have taken a ball of quicksilver," says the counterinsurgency specialist John Arquilla, "and hit it with a hammer."

What has helped those little bits of quicksilver grow and flourish is, above all, the decision to invade and occupy Iraq, which has left the United States bogged down in a brutal, highly visible counterinsurgency war in the heart of the Arab world. Iraq has become a training ground that will temper and prepare the next generation of jihadist terrorists and a televised stage from which the struggle of radical Islam against the "crusader forces" can be broadcast throughout the Islamic world. "Islamic extremists are exploiting the Iraqi conflict to recruit new anti-U.S. jihadists," Porter J. Goss, director of the C.I.A., told the Senate in February. "These jihadists who survive will leave Iraq experienced in, and focused on, acts of urban terrorism. They represent a potential pool of contacts to build transnational terrorist cells, groups and networks in Saudi Arabia, Jordan and other countries."

As the Iraq war grows increasingly unpopular in the United States - scarcely a third of Americans now approve of the president's handling of the war, and 4 in 10 think it was worth fighting - and as more and more American leaders demand that the administration "start figuring out how we get out of there" (in the words of Senator Chuck Hagel, a Republican), Americans confront a stark choice: whether to go on indefinitely fighting a politically self-destructive counterinsurgency war that keeps the jihadists increasingly well supplied with volunteers or to withdraw from a post-Saddam Hussein Iraq that remains chaotic and unstable and beset with civil strife and thereby hand Al Qaeda and its allies a major victory in the war on terror's "central front."

Four years after we watched the towers fall, Americans have not succeeded in "ridding the world of evil." We have managed to show ourselves, our friends and most of all our enemies the limits of American power. Instead of fighting the real war that was thrust upon us on that incomprehensible morning four years ago, we stubbornly insisted on fighting a war of the imagination, an ideological struggle that we defined not by frankly appraising the real enemy before us but by focusing on the mirror of our own obsessions. And we have finished - as the escalating numbers of terrorist attacks, the grinding Iraq insurgency, the overstretched American military and the increasing political dissatisfaction at home show - by fighting precisely the kind of war they wanted us to fight.

(10 more pages at link)

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"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all."
--Herbert Spencer: Nineteenth-century English social scientist


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 12, 2005 - 11:07pm.

n/t

Submitted by Vicky on September 13, 2005 - 8:48am.

This is a keeper. The metaphor of hitting quicksilver with a hammer is an excellent one. I'll use it...

Leadership means lifting people up. --Wes Clark

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Submitted by reggiesmom on September 13, 2005 - 10:10am.

It needs to be saved somewhere, for future reference. It was extremely well-written. Thanks for posting!

I don't approve of political jokes.....I've seen too many of them get elected.


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Submitted by icantbelieveimv... on September 12, 2005 - 11:36pm.

I'm soooo glad I didn't choose watching the Eagles game over seeing the General! (They're losing!)

Wes said he definitely wants to spend more time talking over the issues with us on the blog. I guess he'll just have to give up that 15 minutes of sleep a day that he's currently getting in order to do it!


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Submitted by LJM on September 12, 2005 - 11:51pm.

Just read in the NYT's that FEMA contractors have begun installing mobile homes for evacuees near Slidell and other places. They are putting them in state parks and other places they can install towns out of a box. The are 2 and 3 bedroom and come furnished with beds, fridge, couch and chair. They plan to install 200,000 of them more or less. It depends on who comes back and wants to live in them. They don't charge the tenant anything. A thousand of them are being installed around N.O. for the workers who will be doing the reconstruction there. No telling how long people will be living in them. They also will be constructing schools, medicals center and services where they put these "towns." So long as they aren't where tornados hit, they should be ok. I hope they install tornado shelters in these places if they are in tornado zones. Apartment complexes where I live are doing that. The double as community facilities.


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Submitted by california4clark on September 13, 2005 - 12:00am.

Pleeease :)

"I am the blogger formerly known as clarkuistador"


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 12:20am.

LOL, I keep tellin' 'em...he needs to travel Ohio...I could take time off from work. :-)

Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:36am.

n/t

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Submitted by california4clark on September 13, 2005 - 12:40am.

Also it wouldn't be bad if Wes started elevating his profile out on the West Coast, because Hillary Co. isn't as visible/established out here as it is on the East Coast. Plenty of vacant turf out here.

THE WES COAST BABY!

"I am the blogger formerly known as clarkuistador"


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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 12:41am.

all gone out there?


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:45am.

Yeah- it wasn't so bad. I think the media just got all excited because of the so-called Al Qaeda so-called threat to Los Angeles the day before.

I still think it was the sun storms that should threaten power grids all this week. They said they thought it was some cut cable (?) but weren't certain.... D'oh-

Nobody listens to the scientists anymore....

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 12:47am.

reported that a guy cut the cable by mistake. He did mention sun spots not being the culprit.


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:55am.

Last word I heard here was the cable cutting guy was yet unconfirmed.
Pretty amazing some doofus can cut a wire and southern California goes OUT!! Maybe Drudge knows?

Tomorrow we start a solar/ lunar WOBBLE until 2nd week in November. Proceed with caution. Just sayin'-- ;D

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 12:58am.

No wonder Pam is depressed. Geaux reports that Baton Rouge is depressed. One of the things I loved about living in Europe is that it's ok to be depressed. Nobody walks up to you and says, "smile!"


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 1:12am.

Now, don't you anti-astrology types get too terribly excited about this -- it was just an email from an astrologer with a point of view on how we process this event....doesn't have to be in relation to any astrological references. A look at humanity.
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What each of us will do with this tragedy, outwardly and inwardly, to change for the better will make a big difference on so many levels, including the evolution of humanity. All this ultimately is serving a greater purpose and that is to ultimately unite us in true brotherhood.

How do we move into the Age of Brotherhood, the Aquarian Age, unless we learn with our hearts the true meaning and importance of brotherhood? As we are preparing to move into the coming Aquarian Age, this process of learning, sadly is taking place through tragedies such as the devastation in the South, the Tsunami overseas, the devastating weather patterns, coming earthquakes and other events. We as humans mainly learn through the crises that set the stage for us to change. If we can truly live with the understanding that we are all connected to one another and that we are created equally, we have the opportunity to lessen the impact of coming events.

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Submitted by Dormaphaea on September 13, 2005 - 10:58am.

This explains a hell of alot.

Great. Oh just great....

(muttering under breath....)


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Submitted by Jdrake1776 on September 13, 2005 - 12:17am.

I here that Wes Clark sometimes comes out to the Island (Hamtons)to visit some of the big guns.He is in the "Run Silent and Run Deep" mode. If he makes an offical visit to an event, he will get a big crowd.

JDrake
Long Island For Clark


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Submitted by california4clark on September 13, 2005 - 12:30am.

I wouldn't be surprised if he headed out to Timbuktu tomorrow and was back within 24 hours.

"I am the blogger formerly known as clarkuistador"


Submitted by Melange on September 13, 2005 - 9:16am.

He's going to be in NYC for the Clinton Global Initiative this weekend so maybe he'll be out to stay with the big guns before or after the conference.

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Submitted by mad4clark on September 13, 2005 - 10:55am.

TWN will be Blogging the Clinton Global Initiative

From Thursday through Saturday, I will be up blogging up a storm in New York at the Clinton Global Initiative, for which I just received my press credentials.

After having just organized a major conference myself, I'm interested in the balance between conventional and provocative contributions to the discussion -- and how CGI harnesses anything that comes from the discussion into something that gets policy traction.

Should definitely be interesting.

If any of you are there, give me a shout.

-- Steve Clemons
09:18 PM | Permalink | Comments (0)

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/000947.html

"George Bush has had his day and he's bollixed it up."


Submitted by Sandy on September 13, 2005 - 12:42am.
Submitted by Sandy on September 13, 2005 - 12:45am.

Everybody have a look. I didn't expect it. It surprised me.

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 12:46am.

is starting their pay online service the 18th. Can't get their op-eds without getting their paper or paying the fee, sigh. I'm going to have Krugman withdrawls.


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:58am.

The Krug Man.....

:(

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 1:01am.

Krugman could do a presentation at NCCM2.0. He could just read all the columns we missed since the NYT's stopped letting us read him for free.


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 1:07am.

I met him when he spoke at a bookstore out here a year or so ago...
He was wonderful!

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Submitted by Bluemoon on September 13, 2005 - 12:51am.

You Can Take My Safety Net When You Pry It From My Cold Dead Fingers

Just saw a gathering of church & community groups on C-Span, unfortunately I can't find the link archived yet- most from hard hit Katrina states asking yet again "Where is the Federal Government?" The others were leaders mostly from non-profits who were gathered in Washington, D.C. to oppose proposed changes to Medicare.

I like their unified front & the strong things they have to say about their need to be involved in the rebuilding, the need for a comprehensive plan with strong anti-poverty measures- like job training for the displaced to help them become the skilled workers who help to rebuild their communities with their own hands. Some explained that many of the evacuees are trying as hard as they can to stay in the region, because so many were renters & they are afraid of the gentrification that will happen & leave them permanently adrift.

ALL made passionate, passionate articulate pleas for us to get our national priorities straight & adopt a TRUE populist political platform. If I'm not mistaken, I believe America is about to experience a brand new form of goverment: We The People


Submitted by MJ for Clark on September 13, 2005 - 12:51am.

(((Ohio,))) So sorry you are having a hard time. I've heard that depression is caused by repressed anger. Maybe you need to throw a few plates or something that shatters to release the tension. Keep the faith and feel better soon. Mary Jo

Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 1:16am.

I take the precaution of marching out to the garage where there is still a bunch of stuff from the garage sale I had last year (shhh we won't discuss the fact that it's been a year ago and it's still there) and PITCHING it into a trash can.

That way I don't break anything that I'll regret having ruined after I have my little fit.

(((MJ)))

Submitted by MJ for Clark on September 13, 2005 - 12:53am.

Lots of love and light!

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 12:59am.

You are being very quiet. Then there's alexm being very quiet and that's most unusual.


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Submitted by Phoebe_in_Sydney on September 13, 2005 - 1:23am.

just feeling bit quiet, overwhelmed and a little down.

alexm's prolly got more excuse than me for not having much to say.

You'd be taking them to the Better Business Bureau if you bought a washing machine the way we went into the war in Iraq. Wes Clark, CNN Aug 17 2003


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 12:59am.

Any word on the blog effort to collectively donate to Habitat to Humanity that pia was checking into?

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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 1:02am.

Last I heard she was waiting for information from them.


Submitted by Melange on September 13, 2005 - 9:18am.

since Jimmy Carter is officially #6 on the list of 100 people that are screwing up America, I don't know if Habitat for Humanity is a worthy cause. (sarcasm)

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Submitted by Clark Warner on September 13, 2005 - 1:01am.

http://www.mcall.com/news/localdail/all-schrader0912,0,1808538.story

This is great news for Patrick Murphy!!!

Also, why can't other blue state follow the lead of Rendell and clear fields?

Opps. Wrong party. sorry.


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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 1:03am.

What's up with Hackett and running for the senate in Ohio?


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Submitted by LJM on September 13, 2005 - 1:11am.

in Kansas. Tomorrow is another day with a solar/lunar wobble.


Submitted by ms in la on September 13, 2005 - 1:15am.

Goodnight LJM!
Hang on during the wobble!
We'll be wobbling out here too..

Submitted by Sandy on September 13, 2005 - 1:12am.

about sitting down at the barganing table? Before his fist came down?

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Submitted by Jdrake1776 on September 13, 2005 - 1:27am.

"If you keep on doing what you been doing I will Bomb You" and I did 76 days.

JDrake
Long Island For Clark


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 1:28am.

Nite to whomever is left standing (or sitting as the case may be)

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Submitted by Dave4Clark on September 13, 2005 - 2:40am.

4 little known things about George W. Bush...

1. He is a hardcore vegetarian:

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully." -George W. Bush, Sept. 29, 2000

2. He once was a Family Double Dare TV contestant:

"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." —George W. Bush, Jan. 27, 2000

3. He is a perv:

"Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country." —George W. Bush, Sept. 6, 2004

4. Sometimes he is honest:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Aug. 5, 2004


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Submitted by noelschutz on September 13, 2005 - 7:03am.

That is a game that could be played out more!

Don't Mess with Wes!


Submitted by Ice on September 13, 2005 - 6:33am.

I went back and got a cached copy of the home page. It said:

September 13th: General Clark will be on Fox News Live at 11:10AM Eastern

I've set my DVR in case this really happens. I don't see it on the events thing now. Anyway, stay on your toes in case it happens.

now, off to work

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Submitted by noelschutz on September 13, 2005 - 7:05am.

From WesPAC:

Upcoming events
* September 13: General Clark will be in Alexandria, VA (12 hours)
* September 15-17: Clinton Global Initiative (2 days)
* October 11th & 12th: General Clark will be in Virginia with Lt. Governor Tim Kaine (28 days)
* October 13th: General Clark will be in Stillwater, OK (30 days)


Submitted by Cyn2 on September 13, 2005 - 10:03am.

I was reading over the list there, and I didn't see Clark mentioned, though Hillary was listed as a distinguished guest.

Submitted by Melange on September 13, 2005 - 10:12am.

http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/home.nsf/pt_climate_change
Under "Climate Change: Business Challenge, Business Opportunity"

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Submitted by Susan ClevelandOH on September 13, 2005 - 7:42am.

Busy time here...husband is retiring from HP in a month and we really haven't decided what's next. But...

Wanted to say that I led the program at our Dem meetup last night. It was a presentation/book discussion on Lakoff's DON'T THINK OF AN ELEPHANT and it was an amazing, fun, energetic discussion with probably the largest group I have seen at a meetup since last year. And I got in a plug for Wes and WesPAC while mentioning our workshop with Lakoff at NCCM. :)

Suggestion: if your Dems need energizing, try a book discussion event. Most of the group actually READ the book in advance of this meetup!


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on September 13, 2005 - 7:54am.

Maybe the Dems (and others in Ohio per Noel's post this morning) are stirring to life and awareness re: the Bumbler in Chief.

Oh, and I just bought a HP (Compac) computer...hope they're good LOL.

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Submitted by icantbelieveimv... on September 13, 2005 - 7:55am.

He's retiring from Harry Potter?


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Submitted by noelschutz on September 13, 2005 - 7:46am.

We know about the plunging polls, but here we have it in Ohio, which "won" him the election, and among his Republican base. Not good for him, but great for America.

Katrina damages Bush in two polls
By Richard Keil and Brendan Murray
Bloomberg News in Seattle News
http://tinyurl.com/d2pr3

Two new polls show Americans give President Bush poor marks for his handling of the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, with one survey showing that Bush is now losing support even among his Republican base
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Both polls contain additional bad news for Bush. A poll by the Pew Research Center for People and the Press gives him an overall job approval rating of 40 percent, down 10 percent since January, and a disapproval rating of 52 percent, among the highest of his presidency.
Bush's job approval rating was 41 percent in a Zogby America poll, the lowest in that poll's history, and 53 percent of those questioned said the nation is headed in the "wrong direction."

The surveys were conducted in the week after the hurricane's assault on the Gulf Coast and show that support for the president, at near-
record lows before the storm, fell further amid anger over the federal government's response.

"Americans are depressed, angry and very worried about the economic consequences of the disaster," Andrew Kohut, director of the Pew poll, told Reuters.

"Uncharacteristically, the president's ratings have slipped most among his core constituents — Republicans and conservatives," Kohut wrote in an e-mail.

In the Pew survey, 67 percent of 1,000 adults interviewed by telephone Tuesday and Wednesday said Bush could have done more to speed up relief efforts; 28 percent said he did everything possible.

Hurricane Katrina produced a "major shift in public priorities," according to Pew. For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, a majority of Americans now believe it is more important for the president to focus on domestic issues than the war on terrorism.
When asked what should be a priority for the president, 56 percent said "domestic policy," an increase of 16 percentage points since January. Twenty-five percent said Bush's top priority should be fighting terrorism, a 19-point decline from January.

The Pew survey shows Bush's support among Republicans is strong but slipping, and since his support among Democrats and self-described independents remains consistent, Bush's declining approval is linked directly to that slippage within his own party.
The new poll shows Bush with a job approval rating of 79 percent among Republicans, down nine percentage points since Pew's July survey.
Among Democrats, his approval was 19 percent, compared with 18 percent in July, and among independents it was 33 percent versus 32 percent, changes that in both cases are within the poll's margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

More…

Even before Karina set in there was this bad news for BushCo:

Support for Bush reaches low among central Ohioans
Approval down 20 percent in past two years

http://tinyurl.com/d2pr3

COLUMBUS (AP) - Central Ohioans' support for President Bush and the war in Iraq have reached their lowest points since the onset of the war, according to a poll commissioned by The Columbus Dispatch.
Bush's approval rating in the Columbus area sank to 41 percent, down 20 points from just after the United States invaded Iraq in 2003. Support for his handling of the Iraq war dropped 30 points to 37 percent in that time.

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Just more than one-third of those polled said the war in Iraq has been worthwhile. And only 14 percent said terrorism threats have decreased because of the U.S. presence in Iraq.

"Their patience is short when it comes to seeing Americans die, so they'd like this wrapped up quickly in Iraq," said Martin Saperstein, president of Saperstein Associates, the Columbus firm that conducted the poll.

About two-thirds of those polled believe Bush has no clear exit strategy, and three-fifths said he exaggerated information to build support for the war.

However, the number of respondents who fear Ohio will become a target of a terrorist attack plummeted from 72 percent just after the attacks to 5 percent in the poll conducted from Aug. 30 through Sept. 3.
Other terrorism-related fears have subsided since 2001, but the attacks' effects still can be felt among the quarter of respondents who are less willing to fly and the 45 percent who said they have grown more suspicious of people of Arab descent.
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Saperstein said Bush's response to Hurricane Katrina's devastation did not affect the poll, which was conducted before criticism of the president's actions grew heated.


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Submitted by Fremont Troll on September 13, 2005 - 8:07am.

Two Bush Presidents Respond to Hurricanes

The Associated Press
Friday, September 2, 2005; 11:54 AM

WASHINGTON -- Each President Bush, father and son, has faced sharp criticism of his administration's response to a devastating hurricane.

Their reactions:

President Bush, facing blistering criticism for his administration's response to Hurricane Katrina, said Friday, Sept. 2, 2005, "the results are not acceptable" and pledged to bolster relief efforts with a personal trip to the Gulf Coast. Bush made the statement along with Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, right, as he left the White House for a tour of the hurricane ravaged area. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds) (Ron Edmonds - AP)
"I can understand tempers flaring, but I don't want to contribute to that. I'm not going to participate in the blame game." _ President George H.W. Bush responding to criticism of slow federal assistance following Hurricane Andrew in Florida in 1992.

"The results are not acceptable. We'll get on top of this situation." _ President George W. Bush responding to criticism of his administration's assistance following Hurricane Katrina.
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Bush pledges to stay on top of relief effort

Bush said that while critics want "to play a blame game," he and his administration have "got to solve problems. ... There will be ample time for people to figure out what went right and what went wrong. What I'm interested in is helping save lives."

The president praised the work of community and faith-based organizations aiding hurricane victims and urged Americans to send them cash donations to support their efforts.

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"Those who cavalierly reject the Theory of Evolution, as not adequately supported by facts, seem quite to forget that their own theory is supported by no facts at all."
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