From the Beginning ... John Hlinko's Story



Then & Now:
From the Beginning … Part I

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From the Beginning Part I…John Hlinko's story

We thought that it would be appropriate to begin…well…from the beginning.

John Hlinko founded DraftWesleyClark.com in March 2003. If you haven’t met John or read his e-mails from the Draft Clark days, you’ve missed something. John's creative approach generated a number of innovative marketing strategies to bring in new supporters and pledge funds for a potential race. John is a dreamer who turns his dreams into action.

At the time John had several enterprises going, including Extreme Campaigns — a more or less a one-man political consulting firm, specializing in technology and marketing.

John was instrumental in ratcheting up buzz in the media. It was also John (along with Jason MacIntosh, Susan Putney and others) who first aired a radio ad about Gen. Clark, in New Hampshire. That created a buzz as well. Soon after, DraftWesleyClark.com created a TV ad. John is also credited with the idea of using Clark Bars as a way of getting people to listen to them about Clark.

One of the most important things John did from the outset was to install the “please run” facility on the DraftWesleyClark.com home page. People could fill in a form with a letter asking the General to run, by either using a pro forma letter or writing their own from scratch, or some combination thereof. That story will appear in the next issue of “Then and Now.”

John Hlinko -- Then

I asked John when and how he got interested in Gen. Clark:

For me, it was the fall of 2002. I remember seeing a list of potential candidates in some political writing (Hotline, maybe?), and it had a list of literally dozens and dozens of people who “might” run for the Democratic nomination. Well, there was one guy with the first name “General,” so that caught my attention, big time. I started paying attention to him more and more, asking people about him, and then really started to do the effort [the DraftWesleyClark.com site] in February of 2003. What provoked it was a dinner with people, among whom included my friend Dave Wallace, a PR professional in DC, and Samer Shehata, a professor at Georgetown. Interestingly, both had become independently intrigued with Clark, even though he had almost no name recognition. I decided that if three people with different backgrounds and different political viewpoints had all become intrigued, there was an appeal that clearly could “go viral.”

Dave and I had lunch a short time later, talked about it more, and decided that “someone should really start a draft.” And then we started doing it together. Concurrently, Josh [Margulies, John's brother-in-law] was also becoming intrigued in New York City, and started to do some work on his own. [Josh's site was “RepublicansforClark.”] He then joined the DraftWesleyClark effort. It launched initially in March, initially hosted on my “ExtremeCampaigns.com” site.

The main reasons I started it:

  • I thought the Dems sorely needed someone with impeccable defense credentials to win in a post-9/11 world.
  • I liked some of the folks running, but none appeared to be “the President I was promised as a kid.”
  • I didn't know enough about Clark to know if he was that guy, but I knew enough about him to know he was the kind of guy who should be running.
  • I didn't see any effort to draft him out there, just some discussion, so I figured I could do it.
  • Frankly, from a professional standpoint, I was curious to see if I could do it. I'd worked on a number of efforts in the past online, and had the sense I could do something very big here.

As John and I e-mailed each other back and forth, he continued:

In terms of when the draft movement began, well…that's a good question. :

I think there was a lot of talk about Clark's potential candidacy prior to April of 2003, but no real draft movement. I say this because the Yahoo! group had almost no activity after six months of existence, and the MeetUp group was even lower. Other people may have been talking about a draft, but aside from Cliff's article [Cliff Schechter's March 16 article about Clark published March 16, 2003 -- no longer available on the web], I didn't see any media coverage.

So in sum, if there was a draft, no one knew about it, and it didn't appear to be going anywhere.

I don't know if I can say that DWC.com started the effort, but I will say that the explosion of the movement coincided exactly with its launch, so yes, I do believe it had a significant impact.

Specifically, I think that the fact that I was not working at the time gave me the hours to really build and promote it, and my previous work with MoveOn.org, Ogilvy PR, and CTSG gave me the tools to know how to launch it and generate buzz. So I do think that I and the DraftWesleyClark.com team deserve a lot of credit for really jump-starting the movement. I think I can also take credit for really being the first to push people to build the Yahoo! and MeetUp numbers “specifically as a means of generating buzz.

John Hlinko -- Now

The Draft reached its goal when Gen. Clark tossed his four stars into the presidential ring, John became Director of Internet Strategy in the campaign. He also traveled by Winnebago when the North and South teams competed against each other. After the campaign ended he and his fiancée Leigh Stringer finally had time to get married in October '04. They now have a daughter Katherine Rose (2/21/06), and John is now a Vice President of Marketing with Grassroots Enterprise, a public affairs firm specializing in using the Internet to build grassroots support for causes, products, and companies.

John is one of the true heroes of the entire Clark Movement.

Feel free to comment, but if you have a good story, send it to us privately - we'd like to publish it in a subsequent issue of

“Then and Now.”

Send submissions to me at sdavis8585@msn.com.

Stan

Marla's picture
Submitted by Marla on July 10, 2006 - 11:08pm.

I remember it like it happened today. In our house CNN was on 24/7 during the build up and right through to the invasion of Iraq. I was sooooo furious with Bush - in my mind, there was no valid reason for the war. But during all this I kept hearing this one voice of reason coming from this retired General.

Many times I said to myself - this man should be President

Then one night, on Aaron Brown's show, around the end of the invasion- mid April 2003, David Gergan was a guest in studio along with Aaron and General Clark. The subject turned to politics ....Gergan mentioned a few names about future presidential hopefuls and then while looking right at Clark said ( I'm paraphrasing) "including you Wes - I hear you may run yourself".....( I have the transcript but unfortunately it's on my dead!!! computer now in the garage) after that remark the show went into commercial break, after the break the talk went back to Irag...then a short while later Aaron said we need to talk about the "elephant in the room" Wes stated he as NOT running and said he was in business now - had a family to support.

I thought I had died and gone to heaven -- the man I wished was our President was actually thinking about running!!!!... tho he denied it ....in a flash I was on the computer and googled the General - up popped Draftwesleyclark.com . I stayed online for several hours reading all the "Please run" letters and also all the postings to date on the yahoo site.

I was one of thousands that night - that was the beginning of the explosion on the draft site

Among all the highs and lows the second most important date was June 15th 2003.....on Meet the Press when Clark said he would have to give the draft some serious consideration!!!.........I remember keeping track of the time and counting letters...If I remember correctly over a thousand letters were added within 5 hours on that Sunday


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on July 10, 2006 - 11:48pm.

Thanks for this story, Marla. From my Nostalgia project, I know that you were one of the early ones -- a true vet of the Movement. I didn't get really involved, although I was most interested, until June 15, 2003. About a week later I found LeadershipforAmerica, which led me other places.

I think we could do a whole series on that date, so let's hold off until we get past the first few installments, which will concentrate on the earlier events.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


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Submitted by CarolNYC on July 10, 2006 - 11:10pm.

I met Hlinko one weekend in New Hampshire...when they had that draft weekend...Although I was really up there on a "work weekend" with a bunch from the NYC crew, I did go to the dinner that Saturday night. He is such a bundle of energy. Really a positve, we can make anything happen kind of guy. Kudos to him for helping get the draft movement off the ground.

Stan, or anyone, could you refresh my memory on the Winnbago and the North vs. South thingy? Was that when they were traveling around with Flat Wesley?Thanks!

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


LJM's picture
Submitted by LJM on July 10, 2006 - 11:34pm.

Until I read the current headlines. Glad life is going well for John. I see him post at DKos sometimes.


Arky Sue's picture
Submitted by Arky Sue on July 11, 2006 - 1:44am.

You want us to email you our stories? BTW, nice pic on the "Then and Now" icon. ;)

"Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words."


Stan4Clark's picture
Submitted by Stan4Clark on July 11, 2006 - 10:41am.

Thanks, Arky. That's the idea. Send me your stories according to the announcement's guidelines -- when, why, and how you got involved in the Movement, what motivated you to become Clarkie, what about him attracted you, where that took you politically-- and what you're up to now politically.

Yeah, that pic you took in the old office when you won the "A Day with Gen. Clark" contest/bid is one of my all-time favorites. Your story of that day will make a great (part of) a "Then and Now" entry.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Arky Sue's picture
Submitted by Arky Sue on July 11, 2006 - 2:27am.

n/t


early-bird's picture
Submitted by early-bird on July 11, 2006 - 5:25am.

great idea... then and now... I feel caught up... I wasn't around 2003 it feels good to know the'roots' of Securing America and WESPAC  - Win with Wes 08!


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on July 11, 2006 - 10:35am.

Yeah, it's great fun to relive the early days. There was such energy, such creativity, such excitement, such anticipation...such nervousness.

There will be much more if people will send in their stories.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Submitted by ms in la on July 11, 2006 - 11:24am.

Really enjoyed reading this and so looking forward to the Series and all the stories of how people came to General Clark.

I don't see your byline credits here for Florence and yourself so just make a note for the next one to list yourselves, your team, somewhere at the top or bottom of your entry. You can use user names or real names as your comfort level dictates.

Thanks again for helping out for the July run while we sort out the schedules for August!

Submitted by VaDem on July 16, 2006 - 10:36am.

Marla,
You described the night and comments exactly as I recall too! What a thrill that was to hear.

Hmmm, Stan. Could you get Aaron B to weigh in here? Love to hear his take on this historic night and what he was thinking.

Reading the stories on DraftWesleyClark was soooo motivating. I read them and wondered how anyone in the country could not see that this was the only choice.

Sigh.

Stan4Clark's picture
Submitted by Stan4Clark on July 16, 2006 - 11:14am.

Actually I've been in contact with Aaron Brown. He (tentatively) agreed to an interview for my book, but declined to write a blog for this series. I may try to meet him in the middle -- interview him by phone and seek permission to write up the interview.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Submitted by VaDem on July 16, 2006 - 10:38am.

Yes, the Winnebago came through our area too. I have some great photos of the crowd, the vehicle, John and Josh and me. What a fun day. I don't recall a Flat Wes on that trip, but maybe they pulled it out in some areas and not others.

CarolNYC's picture
Submitted by CarolNYC on July 16, 2006 - 10:56am.

Here's flat Wes in PA with my niece and nephew...

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on July 16, 2006 - 11:11am.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


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