Wes at Paul Aronsohn Fundraiser in NJ


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CarolNYC's picture

OK, it is, even at 11PM, ridiculously hot in Manhattan...and this coming from a summer baby who adores this season....But, as hot as it was here today, it was even hotter in NJ. Yet, a good number of people came out to hear Wes speak at the American Legion in Rochelle Park NJ this evening. The event was outdoors so no air conditioning but there were fans and bottles of cold water for all. Nice to see a number of CCNers there...Guy, Tom, Dom, melange. One of them can probably do a better job of describing the event and what Wes said than I as I think my brain is a little fried from the heat...but I will recount what I recall of the fundraiser afterwards....

One quick thought about the rally, though...As Wes was leaving the podium, shaking hands, talking to people, our own GUYMAN shook his hand and said "please run"...The young man next to him added "please win". Please win, indeed.

Now, on to the fundraiser, across the street at Villa Roberto.....When I first got there, leaving Wes behind to talk mingle some more with the Legion crowd, I thought, argh, what am I doing here with all of these suits?! I knew no one and the place was filled with men in suits....I did not belong. But, I did end up meeting a nice woman in the ladies room, who was very impressed that Wes never even loosened his tie in the heat at the rally and talked to some of the suits and they were quite nice. One guy, IT guy by day, opera singer by night, took out one of the WesPAC cards that Dom (right, it was you Dom who had them?) was passing out at the Legion rally and said, "I'm going to have to check his site out and see what he's up to." I spoke to some others about Gen Clark and about Paul and his chances and his Godawful opponent. I overheard a group of men talking about how Paul was bringing in the "big guns" with General Clark and then they went on to discuss what a good President he would make...so that was cool.

Somewhere along the way, Wes came in and mingled with the crowd. I said no more than hello to him myself but there were a number of others who had a lot to say to Wes.

Roberto, the restaurant owner, proudly took Wes over to show him the spread he'd had put out for the evening...so Wes did get to eat something.

In a little bit, they kind of cleared the floor for the speeches. The guy who introduced Wes said that he was one of the earliest supporters of Clark's '04 campaign and that it was Wes who got him into politics. He spoke very highly of our General, saying how he was really excited that Wes came out, that he'd seen Wes on TV in ‘03 and thought that his approach to problems would be analytical, reasoned and well thought out...Couldn't we have used someone like that in the White House now? he asked and, I think it was then that Roberto, who seems quite the Wes fan, said something like "We still can!" And everyone clapped...

Then Wes spoke...and I have to apologize about the pictures because my pics at the Legion rally came out really dark....and I took none at the fundraiser because Wes, and then Paul, ended up standing so darn close to me when they spoke that I really couldn't take pictures without being a major nuisance.

Anyway, he told the story of meeting Wolfowitz in his office as a one star and being told that the lesson of the Gulf War was that we could intervene in places like Iraq and the Soviet Union wouldn't respond...We had 5 years to clean up all of these Soviet satellites....something like that. As a one star, speaking to the Under Secretary of Defense (was that what he was at the time??), he said he replied "Yes, sir!" which got a chuckle from the crowd. He said when Bush got in office, he saw these guys putting this plan into motion but by then, after Bosnia and Kosovo and all, he had come to realize that force really should be used only only only as a last resort...Force creates uncontrollable consequences and when you kill someone's family member, the whole family then hates you....

Wes spoke of how important this 2006 election is, the most important we've faced. He said this was so not just because of foreign policy and the state of the world but because the Constitution and our government as we know it is in danger. He said that Rummy and Cheney, I think, want to reverse Watergate and give the executive branch unlimited powers. He said this country is in real danger, abroad and at home, and that we are in danger of seeing our government change into something it will be hard to recognize. He spoke of the betrayal of those who wrote the Constitution. He really really stressed this danger to the Constitution. He seems very worried about it. I don't think I've seen him speak that urgently about it before...As scary, in its own way, as the mess this Administration has created around the world.

He spoke of how Congress had abdicated their responsibility, how important it was that we get good people in to replace the rubber stamp, do nothing COngress in there now, people who will take seriously their responsibility to provide the checks and balances that our government depends upon. He said Paul is one of those men. He spoke of how Paul knows diplomacy, knows you sometimes have to talk with people you don't like. (For those who don't know....this, from Paul's website- "Paul spent several years working on foreign policy and national security issues as a member of the Clinton Administration. At the U.S. Department of State, he gained tremendous experience working on a wide range of international security matters - from nonproliferation to arms control to peacekeeping to Middle East policy. He also had the opportunity to serve three American Ambassadors to the United Nations - Madeleine Albright, Bill Richardson, and Richard Holbrooke.") Wes also spoke of how Paul left his job to run in NJ and represent the people of that District. He also asked everyone there to dig deep and max out in contributions to Paul's campaign. He said if we lose our government as we know it, we'll all be losing a lot more than $2100 (which I guess is the max contribution). He stressed again that this is not about 2008, that we have to do something now, this election, to change things...

Then Paul spoke and, I gotta say, I really like this guy. He spoke highly of Wes, arguing jokingly with the guy who introduced Wes about who was the earlier Clark supporter. He said he'd been pleased to have other people come to help him, his former bosses (Madeleine Albright had been out there in support of him earlier) and such but he was especially pleased to have Wes there. He spoke very passionately about his support for Wes and how he thought that our General embodied all that was good, the soldier-statesman we so desperately need and he really hoped that Wes would run again in '08. The crowd agreed, with Roberto (who had donated his place for the event, BTW) again leading the cheers. It was a virtual Wes-lovefest. haha!

And then Paul spoke passionately about why he's running and what he hopes to do when elected. He said people ask him why he's doing this and he told this story of how, when he was out walking (He's doing this thing where he's walking all the towns in his district and knocking on doors.) one hot morning, he knocked on a door and the woman who answered told him of how upset she was with things and how she was looking for an answer and there it was, Paul, knocking on her door. You could see how moved he was by that experience as he told the story. This guy's the real deal...a really down to earth, good guy who wants to do good and serve his country....I so hope he wins. We would do well with folks like him in Congress.

Oh, yes, at one point, during Wes' speech, he was referring to Paul's opponent with a string of, as Wes called them "noxious" adjectives and said I don't think I can add any more...and Paul called out "I can!" It was funny and quick and the crowd got a good chuckle out of it.

Anyway, at the end, Wes came up and again asked us to support Paul and told him he wanted to be in DC with him when they swore in the new Congress....Then it was back out into the steamy night.

As I sat waiting for the bus to take me back to the city, I thought about the event at the American Legion and the veterans who were there and the respect and maybe even reverence they showed Gen Clark. They stood and applauded with feeling when he came in and you could just sense that they were honored that he came to speak to them. And I thought of how proud the whole thing made me...my General, standing there in the sweltering heat, under this wooden roof out in the parking lot of this American Legion hall, red, white and blue bunting and US flags around us....We pledged the flag before the event began....The whole thing made me proud to be an American in a way I don't think I could be if not for Wes and all he's done since we drafted him. And I thanked God quickly for giving me that back for, although I am now a city girl, and I do love NYC in ways I can't even begin to express, that was how I grew up....in a small town where everyone old enough to have served was a veteran, where the American Legion and the VFW sponsored Little League teams every year, where we waited anxiously for the hot dog, movies and a visit from Santa Christmas party at the VFW every year....And sitting, there, thinking of the evening, I felt like that small town kid again....and maybe I was just hot and tired but I can't deny it made me tear up a bit...Thanks, Wes.

One final note....Please do check out Paul's website -- www.paularonsohn.com -- he's one of the good guys.

And I do hope I've represented the evening at least close to accurately....

LJM's picture
Submitted by LJM on August 2, 2006 - 12:25am.

Sounds like you had a hot time with a hot crowd:) Good to know Wes is speaking out more about the danger to our constitution and the importance of this election!!


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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:28pm.

the danger to the Constitution was one of the things Wes really stressed last night...He seems quite worried aobut it...Scary.

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on August 2, 2006 - 8:38pm.

Last night I got polled, and one question was what was the most important issue this year. I said it was preserving the Constitution and democratic (small "d") institutions. I had to explain what I meant to the pollster.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Submitted by justcallmeOHIO on August 2, 2006 - 12:37am.

Another, "felt like I was there" as I read it report.

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Submitted by Knightrider on August 2, 2006 - 1:06am.

...it's so hot! ;/

Great to hear that he'll be checking out Clark's site. I wanted to give you about 20 extra cards, when Tom mentioned that you were heading to the reception. But you must've darted inside, when you heard it had AC ;)

Alot of the towns/neighborhoods up in Bergen County are quite charming, most homes in that area were early to mid-20th century,... old, but overall well kept.  Also, most at the event clustered into groups, but all were easily approachable, friendly and smiling, even with this uncomfortable heat. I'm sure most knew each other. One whom I met said that he was a "republican", when I offered a card. I said, that's ok, I was an Independent. He chatted with his friends who are "democrats," all of whom welcomed the cards. :)

Yup, ...very Americana up there -- I guess that all's not completely lost. :/


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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 9:38am.

Too bad I lost you there...

Don't tell anyone but I was actually more interested in finding the, um, facilities over there than the air conditioning...I'd been "hydrating" all day, if you know what I mean. ;)

I actually didn't think it was too too hot at the Legion rally...

Are you or Tom going to post your thoughts, pictures fromt he rally? Or did I miss a post in a GD thread?

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by marinerfan on August 2, 2006 - 1:12am.

for this splendid report. So detailed and it gave me a feeling of being right there. I appreciate it so much, knowing you must be exhausted.

I felt that sense of pride today, as well, after watching our General on FOX. He teared me up a little too, particularly with his answer to the last question.

He had quite a day. :)


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Submitted by Ruth on August 2, 2006 - 2:16am.

Carol, what a wonderful report. Your thoughts while waiting for the bus brought tears to my eyes. And that was before I got to the part it brought tears to yours as well.

Thank you for sharing your day.


"Some of them put on their cowboy boots and put their feet up on the desk." -Wes Clark


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Submitted by Stan4Clark on August 2, 2006 - 2:25am.

...I got to Carol's tearing up.

Carol, this is magnificent. My heartiest thanks and appreciation for taking the time to put us right there with you.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Submitted by ms in la on August 2, 2006 - 3:11am.

(my nickname for Carol)

That was so wonderful! What a great report-- what a heartfelt reflection and so poignant, even in the heat!

I am so happy to read that sentiment that Wes provoked in you that we are all so missing these days. It gives hope...

Thanks for this - now get some sleep, Lucy... you done good--

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Submitted by MA3 on August 2, 2006 - 6:45am.

especially being out there in a heat, and I have to give credit to those who went to see General Clark…

The General never even loosened his tie? Hmmm not surprised. Did the satellites catch that so that the whole world can see : ).


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Submitted by reggiesmom on August 2, 2006 - 7:42am.

I got misty-eyed:

And I thought of how proud the whole thing made me...my General, standing there in the sweltering heat, under this wooden roof out in the parking lot of this American Legion hall, red, white and blue bunting and US flags around us....

Thanks for braving the heat and the late night keyboarding to allow us a glimpse into Wes's NJ appearance last night, Carol.  Those people who were fortunate enough to have been there in person will never forget it, I'm sure.

America Needs Wes Clark for President!


Submitted by Nelsons on August 2, 2006 - 8:41am.

Thanks for your first-person account, it reminds me of the first WesPAC fundraiser in NY in 2004. And another example of how General Clark brings out the reflective part of our nature. Great detailed post!

Proud to be an American.

Submitted by summercat on August 2, 2006 - 8:59am.

This is a terrific report--sounds like a Wes-win for sure! And glad somelone of Aronson's evident capacity is running.
The General gets it right.
Competence--What a concept!

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 9:47am.

I was a little hesitant to post that part about waiting for the bus. It seems a little over the top and if I had waited until today to post, when I'd had a little bit of sleep and was a little less emotional, I may have left it out....But it is the way I felt and I'm glad it touched people.

And it's even hotter today than yesterday was! Whew!

I will add that Wes did take his jacket off and slung it on one finger over his shoulder after the speeches at the fundraiser and he mentioned to someone that he was from Arkansas so he was used to the heat.

And I must say, I did really get a kick out of Roberto. He was so pleased to have Wes there. If anyone's ever in Rochelle Park and looking for a place to eat, check out Villa Roberto at 70 W. Passaic St. Support the General's friends. :)

Finally, here's one dark picture I took of Paul and Wes at the Legion event. Sorry, I don't know how to make it smaller...If it creates problems for anyone, I'll delete it...It's not that great anyway.

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


Submitted by rhj on August 2, 2006 - 6:34pm.

on those bus rides home. When I saw the midnight post time I knew you would give us all the feeling of sitting in the front row.
Great picture by the way. Catches Wes in a serious moment. Thanks again.

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:36pm.

You know, I don't take notes during these things and often, during the event itself, I'm thinking I'm never going to remember anything he said...but then I get to the bus stop and everything starts coming back to me....like it's replaying in my mind.

I actually just missed one bus last night by, it must have been minutes, and had to wait some time for the next one....but, you know, it was good, because I spent the time writing my notes from the event, thinking and remembering what was said (even as the sweat ran down my back) and then, when it started to get dark, sitting on the curb in front of someone's home and reflecting on the Legion rally...and that's when all of those thoughts about being proud came...and I think I would have missed that if I'd gotten immediately on a bus and not had the time to sit there in the dark and just think...

You know, the missed bus, the heat even, it just all added to the experience somehow...being surprised to find Tom and Demo Kitty and then Melange and Dom there (I knew Guy was coming)...It was a memorable night.

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Knightrider on August 2, 2006 - 9:58am.

Carol, I'll post a blog later, I was working on the pics but past out last night, since I didn't realise it was already late. As for the heat, I was melting away behind the row of seats behind you, but probably because I had been moving around taking pics ;)

Some pics :)

Note: the pics in the album were featured in reverse order, but use this link 

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if you'd like to review it in chronological sequence, relatively.


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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 10:01am.

I'm glad you got some good ones...Really nice one of Paul and Wes...Thanks for posting them.

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by MA3 on August 3, 2006 - 6:27am.

Is your camera also still glued to your fingers and are you still walking around with it?


Submitted by ms in la on August 2, 2006 - 1:10pm.

Talk about camera-friendly!

Wes cannot take a bad picture but these are wonderful!
Really good WesShots there Knight! Thanks.

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Submitted by Stan4Clark on August 2, 2006 - 1:26pm.

Thanks for the pix.

Suggestion: Next time, try to remember when you do the hyperlink to make the link open in a new window. When I came back, all the "New" thingies went away.

Stan Davis
Lakewood, CO
BE THE CHANGE you wish to see in the world.
If not us, WHO? If not now, WHEN?


Submitted by Ellen on August 2, 2006 - 6:18pm.

He's wearing his Dad's ring, I notice.

Submitted by haypops on August 2, 2006 - 10:11am.

Is he favored? Does he have a chance?

What a wonderful description of the event!

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 10:31am.

what they thought and they basically said it's a bit early to tell and there have been no polls or anything.

They seemed to think he could have a shot, though. Money is key, of course, and apparently this Republican group Club for Growth is a big backer of Paul's opponent Scott Garrett, who sounds like a real bad guy, so Paul's opponent will be well funded.

A couple of the guys I spoke to thought that people may be fed up enough with Garrett to vote for Paul, although it is a Republican district.

So, concensus seemed to be he's got at least a decent shot. It's the usual thing, though...He needs money.....

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


Submitted by haypops on August 3, 2006 - 9:01pm.

I wonder if Paul is on Wes' Act Blue donation page. That thing is too hard to find sometimes.

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 3, 2006 - 9:26pm.

Yes, Paul's been added...

Here's the link:
http://actblue.com/page/wespac#9500

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Bluemoon on August 2, 2006 - 10:43am.

Stupendously wonderful post Carol! Many many many thanks for this. And I am newly alarmed at the urgency with which Wes is addressing the acceleration of the erosion of our Constitution. That's some food for thought for sure.

Are you considering cross-posting this at Kos? Please let us know if you are & we can transplant some comments.


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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 10:46am.

I'm not much of a kos poster, although I do read there....I have exactly ONE diary there...

You're welcome to post it there with my permission though if you want to....

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Bluemoon on August 2, 2006 - 10:50am.

I have a lot of official work to do today for the next few hours but I may try later with the Kos post- have to step out for a bit right now.

This really is one of the very very very very best firsthand accounts I've ever read about Wes- and we have been blessed with - gulp- a couple of hundred now, maybe?

I think there are sections here that should go to Voices from the Grassroots too.

Hat's off- this is just so nicely done, can't tell you enough. Thanks again.


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Submitted by early-bird on August 2, 2006 - 2:36pm.

http://pabloonpolitics.com/index.htm

Wes Clark Teaches Barnstorming 101 in Texas

 

Carol it is posted at Kos.... considering that he said our Constitution and government are in danger of becoming something we would not recognize; and his demeanor on the Fox morning show and his seriousness at this event ... I would guess he knows something about the Repugs plans that the public does not ... something that he would talk about in the future if it is necessary.. thank you for your first hand account


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Submitted by Bluemoon on August 2, 2006 - 5:41pm.

so early- is it over there now? If so can you please provide a link when you get a chance... we'd love to bump it.


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Submitted by early-bird on August 2, 2006 - 9:32pm.

http://pabloonpolitics.com/index.htm

Wes Clark Teaches Barnstorming 101 in Texas

few comments ... one said the constitution was an antique document that was not relevant today anyway... I'll go find the link I am trying to figure out if that was sarcasm... someone who feels defeated... which I can not or will not relate or identify with so maybe that is why I can't figure out what the heck they meant.... or they really believe it..... I'll get the link

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/2/11230/88159

I think I know why I did get comments... I started a diary late July and hadn't replied to the comments until tonight ( and there were so fun ones so) I think interest wanned..


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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:38pm.

yes, I wonder what Wes might know that we don't yet...

Do you have a link for kos...

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


Submitted by GUYMAN on August 2, 2006 - 10:51am.

It was obviously a pleasure to shake the General's hand, and get to ask him a question. It was about Iraq. Up until recently I have been right with him on the need to not cut and run, etc. He articulated that position again last night, and was as thoughtful as ever. But I'm getting concerned that if the Iraquis will not live in peace there may not be much more we can do. I have to hope and believe that Clark, being as intelligent as he is, would be able to come to that conclusion if things play out that way. In purely political terms I'm also concerned that if the carnage continues the Democratic primary voters are not going to support someone who advocates staying in Iraq.

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:40pm.

It was a great question...and it was great to meet you also.

You got a smile out of him with your reaction to the St. Louis Cardinals mention, too...That was you, right?

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by Bluemoon on August 2, 2006 - 10:54am.

from recommended:

Pilgrim, Arky Sue, Tom Rinaldo, Knightrider, Ruth, Phoebe_in_Sydney, Phyl, donjo, Susan ClevelandOH, Ben, marinerfan, Stan4Clark, Bluemoon, haypops, early-bird

 

you're "busted" m'dear- come in from the cold.


Submitted by Dinger on August 2, 2006 - 11:50am.

You never fail to amaze me. As you well know, I am waiting, fairly patiently, for him to come back to Wisconsin.

"Just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back, up front there ought to be a Man In Black."
-Johnny Cash

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:42pm.

Good to see you here...Don't be a stranger...

And we'll get the General out to your neck of the woods by hook or by crook, eh? ;)

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


Submitted by Clearsky on August 2, 2006 - 12:09pm.

Oh, what your report did for me, Carol. And, I take it from the replies, for lots of people.

Next best thing I've ever seen to actually being at a Wes event with himself.

Tears in the eyes, puts it mildly. Apparantly for many of us.

You have the gift, m'dear. Thank you so much for sharing it in these dark times.

Where there's Wes, there's hope.

And faith that the good does come, if we do our part. And soon, a caring love for so many people who love him.

Clearsky

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Submitted by CarolNYC on August 2, 2006 - 7:43pm.

And yes, he does bring hope, doesn't he?

When I found him back during the runup to the Iraq War it was like finally finding light at the end of a long dark tunnel...He hasn't disappointed yet.

"The mark of leadership is not to standup when everybody is standing, but rather to actually stand up when no one else is standing" - Pulitzer Prize winning author Samantha Power, introducing Gen Clark


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Submitted by jen on August 2, 2006 - 2:59pm.

to thank you Carol, for this beautiful account. All of it. Most excellent, city-girl! ;)

Once in a while you get shown the light, In the strangest of places if you look at it right. - Hunter/Garcia


Submitted by Tom Rinaldo on August 2, 2006 - 10:38pm.

I love how your own reactions weave so well into the narrative of the event you are describing. It takes us inside with you, and then we all get to spend a half hour remembering our reaction to something it seems we were actually part of.

I can't keep up with CCN today. There is way too much excellent content all over this place for me to find time to read it and do the other things I need to, both political and non political. I guess I'll take a couple of days to try to catch up. Watch, blogs that fall off the front page will suddenly have me show up going wow, this is great stuff, after everyone else is already through with discussing it!

I'm really proud to be a part of this community right now.

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